I want a 9mm revolver


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default57
December 17, 2010, 05:15 PM
I want a 9mm revolver
would it not be handy to have a 9mm revolver?
I would like to just simply have a normal semi-auto and revolver for concealed(like the S&W 649). Considering it is supposedly the most common handgun caliber in the world and therein, is cheap, available anywhere ammo is sold, and is used by the standard issue Beretta 92.
is that too much to ask? is it bad to have 9mm in a revolver?
Why is there not one in production?

Besides having a dedicated 9mm revolver, it would also be nice to shoot .38 or .357 from the same gun for TEOTWAWKI(the end of the world as we know it) and flexibility. Putting concealed carry aside, why is it so hard to create a revolver that shoots all three of those accurately? the measurements are shown. Differences show some different bullet sizes, which means barrel diameters, which doesn't help in accuracy. There is the ruger blackhawk but I hear 9mm is inaccurate in it because of the that difference. Can I create a 9mm myself with a gunsmith?

Then also there is the Phillips & Rodgers Medusa revolver. How the heck does it work? Why, so I hear, can it be so accurate in all sorts of different calibers?

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http://stevespages.com/jpg/cd9parabellum.jpg

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MikePGS
December 17, 2010, 05:28 PM
Hmm. Taurus still makes a 9mm as far as I know, S&W used to make one (940 model I think) and Ruger made their SP101 in 9mm for a time. You would have to look for the S&W and Ruger used, but as far as I know they are still making the taurus. Charter Arms recently announced (a year or two ago) that they were going to make a 9mm revolver, but as far as I know it never came to fruition.

CoRoMo
December 17, 2010, 05:32 PM
is that too much to ask? is it bad to have 9mm in a revolver?
Why is there not one in production?
I have a Ruger Blackhawk Convertible. They still make those IIRC.

default57
December 17, 2010, 05:44 PM
dedicated 9mm I was thinking because I hear those don't shoot well. How does yours shoot? and I also was thinking concealed DA/SA. I obviously like the idea though and I might get a blackhawk eventually.

and what does IIRC mean?

p.s. yes guys I know there are lots of threads on 9mm revolvers. These are the begged questions that I found unanswered in my search

MikePGS
December 17, 2010, 05:46 PM
IIRC means "If I recall correctly".

ForumSurfer
December 17, 2010, 05:48 PM
I have a Ruger Blackhawk Convertible. They still make those IIRC.

They are still available through dealers online, so I'm guessing so. 9mm / 357 convertible.

I know I want one really badly. I'm going to start reloading 9mm, 45 and 223 after the first of the year (now there's a resolution I can get on board with) so a blackhawk would be a neat addition and I could share ammo with my autos. A 9mm revolver just seems neat to me since I've never shot one. I can always throw the 357 cylinder in there when I feel the need to "cowboy up." I have an old, handmade, engraved, leather western holster left to me by an uncle...it's all empty and lonely with nothing to fill it. Blackhawks are...well they're just cool.

John Wayne
December 17, 2010, 05:53 PM
The last Ruger Blackhawk convertible I saw with 9mm and .357 cylinders sold for $425, about a day after it was put in the case. If you ask me, there is no point to shooting 9mm out of a single action gun of that size.

9mm is only practical in revolvers with barrels 3'' or shorter, in my opinion. In that barrel length it is very efficient, and you have a compact, easy to shoot package. The S&W 547 is the holy grail of 9mm revolvers, as it does not use moon clips. I had one and it was an awesome gun, but I sold it to another THR member. They are pretty collectable and quite expensive compared to other K-frame S&Ws.

You can have a 9mm revolver made from any gun that shoots .357 Mag. .38 SPL cylinders are long enough but won't take the pressure. Conversions will be a custom, one-off job, and will likely require custom fabrication of moon clips, which will be hard to load without a tool, and may be flimsy and cause reliability issues.

Your best bet will be to try and find something used. While they are more collectable and more expensive, it will still be cheaper than a custom conversion. S&W, Ruger, and Taurus have all recently made 9mm revolvers in various sizes.

Demitrios
December 17, 2010, 05:55 PM
If you have the money the patience to find one and buy it then you might like this.

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Revolvers/Medusa_Model_47.htm

W.E.G.
December 17, 2010, 06:02 PM
9mm is .355" bullet.

Even with a 9mm cylinder, you are still pushing a .355 bullet down a .357 bore.

Some folks have complained about accuracy.

rdrancher
December 17, 2010, 06:02 PM
I have no experience with them, but Mark Hartshorne does conversions. http://www.pinnacle-guns.com/revolver.asp

rd

Salty1
December 17, 2010, 06:05 PM
Interesting that this topic has come up, I plan on speaking with the Exec's from Ruger at the Shot Show in Jan. and bring up a version of the LCR in 9mm, personally I believe that would be a huge success and force S&W to follow suit as they did with their Bodyguard revolver since the LCR was taking so much of the market share from them...

John Wayne
December 17, 2010, 06:07 PM
Also, .38 SPL/.357 MAG bullets are generally .358 if lead, .357 if jacketed. I don't recall seeing any .359 bullets like your chart lists.

rcmodel
December 17, 2010, 06:22 PM
I want a 9mm revolver
That's what everyone says.
Until a manufacture tools up and makes them, like S&W & Ruger has done in the past.

Then they can't sell enough of them to make any money making them.

rc

bkhosken
December 17, 2010, 06:33 PM
I was actually just planning to buy a Taurus 905 in 9mm. The ballistics (elsewhere on this forum) are much better for a 9mm+p out of a 2" barrel (1000-1100 fps, 124 grain) than .38+p out of a 2" barrel (800-850fps, 125 grain).

G27RR
December 17, 2010, 06:39 PM
Taurus does still make their 9mm revolver. I bought one about six months ago just to have something different. It shoots decently, but the build quality isn't even close to the other revolvers I have (Ruger SP101, Single Six, S&W Bodyguard and S&W 60-15). The trigger pull is nothing too great, either. It was fairly inexpensive, though, or I wouldn't have bought it.

Here's mine. Not the prettiest gun, either, but in fairness this was right out of the box before cleaning it. Still, the finish is merely serviceable.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n634/G27RR/Taurus9mmrevolver-1.jpg

rcmodel
December 17, 2010, 06:41 PM
To heck with the ballistics.
A BG will not be able to tell the difference between the two if you shoot him in all the right places.

The major advantage of a 9mm revolver is the ability to use moon-clips instead of speed loaders.

rc

G27RR
December 17, 2010, 06:44 PM
To heck with the ballistics.
A BG will not be able to tell the difference between the two if you shoot him in all the right places.

The major advantage of a 9mm revolver is the ability to use moon-clips instead of speed loaders.

rc
Or to have a same caliber bug as your semiauto primary if you are so inclined. Or to only have to stock 9mm if that's all you need. I don't do either of those though.

minutemen1776
December 17, 2010, 06:45 PM
Salty1, a 9mm LCR would be fantastic. I hope you're persuasive with the Ruger execs.

Jim Watson
December 17, 2010, 06:57 PM
RC was right.
We have had the S&W 547 and 940; the Ruger Speed Six and SP 101. Sales were poor so they dropped the caliber and kept selling .38/.357 versions of the same guns.

Manurhin built some 9mm/.357 convertible revolvers, my MR73 box has a recess for the extra cylinder... but no cylinder. Chapuis now owns the line and I see no mention that they offer 9mm.

P&R could not make a go of the multi-caliber Medusa and Colt talked about buying the design from them but got smart before they sank a lot of money into one of those things more talked about than used.

There is always Korth.

PabloJ
December 17, 2010, 07:32 PM
If they decide to come out with one built around 9x19 cartridge with features like shorter cylinder and matching frame put me down for one. In all fairness I would pay good premium for something like this. I have little interest in 9x19 chambers in .38/.357 designed gun. Oops, I just pinched my nose and realized most would not be willing to pay out extra cash for such a cutie so we can all keep on dreaming.

gorenut
December 17, 2010, 07:36 PM
Wish I could get my hands on a Medusa. Too bad only about 500 or so of em were ever made and half of which were shipped overseas.

The problem with the 9mm revolvers mentioned is they all require moonclips to eject reliably. To the average shooter.. that is a true pain in the ass, especially just for casual shooting in the range.

roaddog28
December 17, 2010, 07:40 PM
Ruger made for awhile a Speed Six chambered in 9mm. They are not easy to find but are very good revolvers. I have a Blackhawk 357/9mm in 4 5/8 barrel and love it. Its my all purpose revolver.
Howard

bigtubby
December 17, 2010, 07:49 PM
S&W 547 is a very nice 9mm revolver had one once and like a fool sold it. These did did not require any moon clips.

thunder173
December 17, 2010, 07:57 PM
I have the Taurus 5 shot stainless version model 605,..it's a good shooter,..albeit a bit snappy in the recoil department for a small frame. The moon clips are not THAT much of a hassle at all,..and I actually prefer them over a speedloader.

I also have an Old Model Ruger Blackhawk convertable that shoots .357's and .38's as good or better than I can hold them,..and it does a decent job out to 25 yards with the 9mm as well. I to have heard the inaccuracy issues with them,...but never experienced it. I know a few others who have the convertables as well,..with no issues there either.

Ruger sure sells a lot of them,...and it is neat they can shoot the 9mm's,... but I'd only use that for cheap range plinking fodder,.. or maybe a gone to heck in a handbasket case.....either way,..I'll keep the ones I have.....and more importantly,..I'd buy both again if I had to do it over.

default57
December 17, 2010, 08:41 PM
I got these measurements from a whatever source but a good thread to accompany this one

http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?61921-Anybody-have-the-case-dimensions-for-a-9mm-.38spcl-amp-.357-mag

In response to W.E.G. the difference in bullet diameters seems like an insurmountable obstacle to accomplish the feat that I want. I heard of the Medusa being made with more rifling(less bore contact). Far off, I'm thinking that perhaps this sacrificed accuracy in the .357 for 9mm. As in making the bore more .355 for 9mm. Because, maybe, the less actual metal the bullet is forced through, the more able the bore will "stretch out" to accommodate the larger bullet. This is a total guess and, me having little experience in firearms, is me haha "shooting in the dark".

I do like the ruger blackhawk, getting one sure, eventually. And I like that that taurus, G27RR, strictly because it is chambered for 9mm, but nothing else. Now is the Medusa accurate with all 3 calibers? either way I wish someone still made 'em. I find it very practical as a secondary gun.

my questions have pretty well been answered now and I might buy the taurus, just for the sake of supporting a 9mm revolver, but please, continue to elaborate. Salty1 please call upon the gods of persuasion to help you (...or best, The God) get ruger to create a (my preferred) mock S&W 649 in 9mm.

now I wonder, why won't 9mm revolvers sell?

MikePGS
December 17, 2010, 09:08 PM
now I wonder, why won't 9mm revolvers sell?
My guess is that if you're a revolver kind of person that you will probably have .357 as your middle of the road cartridge. 9mm's only advantage over .357 magnum is that it is less expensive. .357 magnum is not only more powerful, but you can also put .38 special in the same gun. As someone already mentioned the difference between 9mm and .38 special isn't large enough to justify getting a revolver specifically for that purpose. Especially when you can just get the same gun in .357 mag to begin with.

Hawaiian
December 17, 2010, 09:10 PM
I like my Taurus. The moon clips are a pain, but I only use them for carry. At the range, I shoot it with out them.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/Hawaiianone/Guns/Taurus-TF.jpg


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/Hawaiianone/Guns/Taurus-TF-holster.jpg

default57
December 17, 2010, 09:18 PM
yeah thats so true mike, I guess thats why I wish they would work with .357 and 9mm.

Is the Taurus 905 accurate?

ojsmoothy
December 17, 2010, 09:32 PM
This company machines several .357/.38 special revolver's cylinders to accommodate 9mm with moonclips. Might be worth checking out.

http://www.moonclips.com/content/machine.asp

tekarra
December 17, 2010, 09:32 PM
Some of my 9 mm revolvers. Sorry for the quality of the photo. The S&W 547 is my favourite revolver.
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa59/tekarra_photo/9mmRevolvers.jpg

RidgwayCO
December 18, 2010, 12:48 AM
I've got a very nice M649-3 in .357 Magnum that weighs 23oz and has always felt great, but never gets shot very much. Rather that sell it, I've decided to convert into a 9mm Luger shooter. I thought about altering the original cylinder, but then acquired another cylinder to make it a convertible. After looking around I've got almost all the parts in hand for the new cylinder assembly (only missing the center pin which is on order from S&W). My local gunsmith assures me he can make the new cylinder work with the 649-3. Once the center pin gets here I'll ship the new cylinder assembly off to either TK Custom or Pinnacle High Performance to have the cylinder re-chambered for 9mm Luger and cut for moonclips. (Hopefully) that will leave me with a sub-23oz 9mm S&W snub, which sounds ideal to me. And I'll be able to convert it easily back to .357 Magnum if required.

And as far as accuracy goes, if the .355" bullets aren't accurate in the .357" barrel, I can reload with some 110gr, 125gr, or 140gr .357 bullets. They should fit the barrel a treat.

default57
December 18, 2010, 03:07 AM
It's good to now know that there are 9mms out there, I definitely need to get some kind of setup

Maybe I'm just wishing for something as good as the medusa back in production. especially for as good as they make it sound

bdb benzino
December 18, 2010, 05:04 AM
I also have a Taurus 905 9mm snub, and the fact is my wife won' give it back or even consider switching to anything else. Good little snub, and I love how easy a loaded moonclip conceals with a pocket holder I bought from Delfatti Leather. It's not a Smith by any means, but there is not anything wrong with it at all!

PabloJ
December 18, 2010, 05:59 AM
My guess is that if you're a revolver kind of person that you will probably have .357 as your middle of the road cartridge. 9mm's only advantage over .357 magnum is that it is less expensive. .357 magnum is not only more powerful, but you can also put .38 special in the same gun. As someone already mentioned the difference between 9mm and .38 special isn't large enough to justify getting a revolver specifically for that purpose. Especially when you can just get the same gun in .357 mag to begin with.
They will not sell because those with paranoid minds will always choose high mag capacity pistols. It's the fear that the other guy will have more bullets then "me" it's really that simple.

WC145
December 18, 2010, 11:09 PM
Jeez, every time this subject comes up there's an incredible amount of misinformation. I've had a Taurus 905 and a S&W 940 and my BUG and sometimes off-duty gun is a custom S&W 360J that was rechambered to 9x23 by Pinnacle High Performance. Here's some info from an owner:

Pressure is not an issue. Per S&W they do not use different steel from one centerfire cylinder to another. The 940 handled 9mm, the PC 940 handled 356TSW which was up there with 9x23 pressure wise. I've fired 9mm +P+, .38 Super, and 9x23 Winchester out of my gun with no ill effects. I keep it loaded with the same 9mm +P+ load that I carry in my duty gun.

The interweb myth of inaccuracy shooting .355 bullets from a .357 barrel is just that. I've seen no appreciable difference in accuracy between shooting .38spl in my gun's original configuration and 9mm since rechambered. I've had no trouble qualifying on our duty weapon course of fire with scores similar to what I get with my duty gun.

Except for the Taurus "Stellar Clips" moonclips are not flimsy. I use moonclips that I've purchased from S&W and have not had any trouble with them bending or breaking. In fact, a 9mm snubby is incredibly fast to reload using them.

The 9mm is a very efficient cartridge from a short barrel so you get much better ballistics than a .38spl for a given bullet weight without the muzzle blast and recoil of a .357mag.

Your choices are limited. The Taurus is an okay gun, mine had issues with the cylinder rubbing on the barrel, their QC is questionable. The 940 is a nice gun but heavy and pricey these days. The same can be said for the Ruger offeriengs. I had my gun done because I wanted a lightweight 9mm snubby and nobody made one. With CT LG-105 laser grips my gun weighs only 13.9oz empty, making it a great carry/back up piece when compared to a 22oz 940. Recoil is manageable, on par with a .38spl +P load.
Including the original purchase price, the work I've had done, and the laser grips I'm into my gun for about $1050. Money well spent to get what you want that the factories don't see fit to build.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/__3_AZOV0zhc/Sa1anePt_gI/AAAAAAAAAYg/7BoDD-p3auY/s800/SDC10427.JPG

Oyeboten
December 18, 2010, 11:28 PM
The Israelies in the latter 1940s, copied the S & W 'M&P' in a 9mm P-'08 version.

Never seen one in real life, only seen pictures.

S & W made some protypes either right before or during WWII for a 9mm 'M&P' Revolver, but never produced it.


I wish they had, it would sure be a nice one to have.

Hondo 60
December 19, 2010, 12:14 AM
There are 8 9mm revolvers for sale on gunbroker right now.

Lucky Derby
December 19, 2010, 01:43 AM
In recent years Taurus is the only one with a dedicated 9mm revolver. The BH convertible is also available. I wonder how those both sell.

I think times have changed in recent years, and a 9mm revolver might be more sellable than in the past. What has happened since the Speed-Six, M547, M940 & SP101 9mms? When those guns were made the cheapest centerfire cartridge around was .38 special. Now days, the 9mm is the cheapest centerfire available. I think that fact makes a 9mm revolver more appealing than it ever was before.
Also a snubby revolver designed from the start as a 9mm with a shorter cylinder and frame than the typical .38/.357 sized frame would sell like crazy to the ccw market. Think about the old S&W I frame revolvers. A modern revolver of that size firing the 9mm would be perfect.

default57
December 19, 2010, 03:13 AM
Lucky Derby, thats exactly what I'm thinking. now please someone do it. That is, make a dedicated 9mm revolver ccw for the masses

WC 145, thanks for the info. you think it is as accurate as a dedicated 9mm could be? and its completely safe in say a S&W 638 with the hottest 9mm round? if someone doesnt make what I, and others, want soon then I think I'll do just what you did. Though I hate to spend that much on it so I might just settle for the taurus 905 first.

Benzino, buy another then maybe they'll expand and improve the 905 line seeing as it's getting sales.

I can't reply everyone's personaly I now realize, so thanks all haha. anyway I think that a company selling a good 9mm revolver would get good sales these days. someone set up a poll somewhere

who'd buy a dedicated 9mm revolver here?

WC145
December 19, 2010, 10:06 AM
WC 145, thanks for the info. you think it is as accurate as a dedicated 9mm could be? and its completely safe in say a S&W 638 with the hottest 9mm round? if someone doesnt make what I, and others, want soon then I think I'll do just what you did. Though I hate to spend that much on it so I might just settle for the taurus 905 first.

My gun is as accurate in my hands now as it was before the conversion. If you check the S&W forum there's a number of other people that have had similar conversions done on several different models and I can't recall any accracy complaints. Of course, nobody is using them for bullseye shooting either. I did not see any appreciable difference in accuracy between my converted gun and the factory guns, .002" just isn't that big a difference (if you start slugging barrel I think you'd find at least that much variation amongst factory barrels of any caliber). I know a 9mm bullet won't just slide through my barrel, heck, I can't get one in deep enough to push through, so I'm sure they're engaging the rifling just fine.

There's several guys that I'm aware of with converted aluminum frame guns like your 638. They use mostly standard pressure ammo and shoot the hotter stuff sparingly, generally saving it for carry ammo. S&W used steel frames in the 940's and only steel and scandium frames with the .357mag. If you're using a steel or scandium frame gun (mine is scandium) there shouldn't be any ammo worries.

Pinnacle will rechamber a 5 shot S&W for $225 (last time I checked anyway), I had him do some other stuff while he had the gun so my bill was more. If you call Mark Hartshorne he can tell you more - www.pinnacle-guns.com.

dnovo
December 19, 2010, 10:54 AM
I am a dedicated fan of the 9mm revolver. I have a 4" SB and a 3" RB 547 which are my favorites. I have the 940 and the SP101 in 9 as well and the latter is my favorite moon clip 9. I also have a convertible 357/9mm Blackhawk.

I bought a Taurus but discovered the gun was delivered brand new with a defective cylinder stop and faulty trigger. It's replacement crapped out in ten rounds. I have a low opine of their QC -- or lack thereof -- and will not own one

IMHO, if you can find a 547, that is the 9mm class champ, followed by the SP 101. As the Blackhawk convertible is the only SA 9 now introduction other than the far more expensive FreedomSrms version, decision there should be easy.

Dave

minutemen1776
December 22, 2010, 02:23 AM
I think Lucky Derby is right. Until recently, a 9mm DA revolver may have simply been ahead of its time. Why buy an oddball 9mm revolver when .38 Special was plentiful and was the cheapest ammo available aside from rimfires? That, however, is no longer true. Lots of stores I go to now may not even carry .38 Special, and if they do it is considerably more expensive than 9mm. I love my 9mm autoloaders, but I'm hoping the manufacturers (besides Taurus) will give the 9mm revolver another try very soon.

default57
December 22, 2010, 02:30 AM
So I'm thinking I just buy a S&W model 638, send it to pinnacle to get re chambered, and I'm set. Is that it? :)

WC145
December 22, 2010, 07:16 AM
So I'm thinking I just buy a S&W model 638, send it to pinnacle to get re chambered, and I'm set. Is that it?

Buy a 638, send the cylinder only (unless you want other work done) and Mark will rechamber it and cut it for moonclips and send it back to you. Order yourself some moonclips or you won't be able to shoot it. I get my moonclips right from S&W, you can order them through their site for around $1.30 each.

default57
December 27, 2010, 01:59 AM
WC145 i guess I don't really understand, sorry. is it possible for it to be chambered 9mm and work with and without moonclips?

rogertc1
December 27, 2010, 08:56 AM
My SS Taurus 9MM is good looking and very well built:
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c248/rogertc1/firearms/Taurus9059mm.jpg

WC145
December 27, 2010, 09:06 AM
WC145 i guess I don't really understand, sorry. is it possible for it to be chambered 9mm and work with and without moonclips?

No, you must use moonclips after the cylinder is rechambered, the cases will not headspace in the chambers like in a 940, SP101, Speed Six, or Taurus 905 cylinder. One of the compromises of the conversion.

dnovo
December 27, 2010, 09:55 AM
The only real 'solution' is to hunt down the only DA revolver designed to shoot the 9 mm round, the long-discontinued S&W 547. It was offered in a 4" SB and a 3" RB. The gun not only had a specially designed extractor to allow reliable ejection of fired rounds, but had a floating firing pin and a secondary pin above the firing pin to hold the case in place to ensure proper ignition. A very elegant and functional design.

Unfortunately, it was not popular enough to stay in production for long and today both much sought after and expensive. I am aware of only one currently on offer, a 3" RB NIB offered by David Carroll.

I have both a 4" and a 3". Both are an absolute pleasure to shoot. They digest any 9mm with ease and function perfectly.

If you want to shoot 9mm in a SA. the Ruger 357/9mm platform works fine.

I am not a fan of the Taurus 940. Their QC is quite poor. The first one I bought was DOA, with a non functional trigger and non locking cyl. The second one a friend bought lasted about 50 rounds before it had to go back for the same issues. Took a long time to come back and had the same problems a few months later. He returned it and got a refund from a sympathetic dealer.

Dave

WC145
December 27, 2010, 10:42 AM
The 547's are great guns, no argument there, but there's plenty of "real" solutions to any problem if you're creative. I didn't want a K-frame 9mm weighing 2+ pounds, I wanted a 9mm J-frame that weighed as little as possible. All I had to do was pay the right gunsmith and voila! Instant 13oz 9mm snubby.

BTW, the Taurus is the 905, S&W made the 940.

dnovo
December 27, 2010, 10:54 AM
I stand -- actually sit -- corrected. I have, and enjoy, my S&W 940. I still dislike the Taurus for the reasons stated. Dave

jyo
December 27, 2010, 09:26 PM
My brother still has his Ruger SP101 rsvolver in 9mm---neat little gun----maybe we should all write Ruger to come out with a limited edtion 9mm SP101---would sell well!

dnovo
December 27, 2010, 09:47 PM
Given the fact that it is cheaper to shoot a 9 than a 38 these days, why not? Dave

tekarra
December 27, 2010, 10:11 PM
Stop it you guys! You have me thinking about getting a S&W 64 and sending the cylinder off for a 9 mm rework. And yes, I have 547s, Speed Sixes and a 940.

oldgaranddad
December 28, 2010, 05:46 PM
:cuss:
Just like tekarra I now have an interest in looking at S&W 547's and other 9mm revolvers from reading this thread. I guess this will be one of my goals for 2011.

G27RR
December 28, 2010, 08:19 PM
My brother still has his Ruger SP101 rsvolver in 9mm---neat little gun----maybe we should all write Ruger to come out with a limited edtion 9mm SP101---would sell well!
I would've bought that over my Taurus any day

default57
December 28, 2010, 09:05 PM
mission accomplished

stolivar
December 28, 2010, 09:51 PM
I am packing a 9mm pistol right now. love mine. it is the Taurus 905 with CT laser .

tekarra
December 28, 2010, 10:06 PM
default57,
How can you say "mission accomplished" and leave us hanging?

bkhosken
February 22, 2011, 08:01 PM
If you are really interested, check this out. WC145 on this forum sent it to me. It's a conversion to be able to shoot 9x23, 38 super, AND 9mm Luger. $225 for the conversion. I didn't know what a 9x23 was, but apparently it's a big caliber for IPSC (longer 9mm to make "major" power factor). It will push a 125 gr 9mm bullet to 1500+fps...now THAT's a 9mm!! Thanks, WC145!
http://pinnacle-guns.com/revolver.asp

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