1911 in .40 S&W


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ernest.t.bass
December 18, 2010, 06:39 PM
Does any one make a production 1911 in .40 Smith & Wesson. I don't seem to find much on this.

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brandon_mcg
December 18, 2010, 06:43 PM
the springfield EMP line is chambered in 9mm or .40 s&w.

i'm sure there are others however.

canuckyraider
December 18, 2010, 06:52 PM
Try Para ?

Narwhal
December 18, 2010, 07:03 PM
STI makes a bunch of them.

STI Guns (http://stiguns.com/guns/guns.php)

ichiban
December 18, 2010, 08:38 PM
Dan Wesson as well.

rbernie
December 18, 2010, 09:10 PM
Kimber made 'em for a while, but discontinued them due to lack of sales. You can still find them occasionally.

duncan
December 19, 2010, 01:31 AM
I really miss my Kimber Custom Series One 40 cal.

Planned to get a 10mm barrel too.

Stupidly sold it.:banghead:

HKGuns
December 19, 2010, 09:37 AM
Lets be clear, if it ain't .45 ACP it ain't no 1911......

BlayGlock
December 19, 2010, 11:46 AM
Lets be clear, if it ain't .45 ACP it ain't no 1911

Lets us be even more clear. That is a silly sentiment indeed. Tell that to Colt who started producing the who made the Commander 1911 first chambered in 9mm.

Take a look at the STI Trojan. Great gun for the money.

PO2Hammer
December 19, 2010, 11:57 AM
I shot a Les Baer P-II (I think it was a P-II) in .40s&w that was very impressive.

Racinbob
December 19, 2010, 12:43 PM
I thought Kimber still did. Maybe my catalog is older than I thought. The Custom Target I have is 10mm and it shows it in .40 as well.

Racinbob
December 19, 2010, 12:46 PM
Oops! I'm wrong. No .40. I assumed that because they had it in 10mm they would have .40

Kleanbore
December 19, 2010, 12:48 PM
Posted by BayGlock: Lets us be even more clear [than "if it ain't .45 ACP it ain't no 1911", as stated by HKGuns]. That is a silly sentiment indeed. Tell that to Colt who started producing the who made the Commander 1911 first chambered in 9mm.

Let's be more perfectly clear. I believe that HKGuns is technically almost correct.

The Model 1911, Model of 1911, and Model of 1911A1 pistols, whether manufactured by Colt, Remington, Singer, United Switch and Signal, or whomever, were all chambered in .45 ACP, except for the 1911 British Contract pistols for the RAF, which were chambered in .455. The Norwegian Model 1912 and 1914 and the Argentine Model 1927 pistols were also chambered in .45 ACP.

Commercial Colt automatic pistols in .45 ACP were marked "Government Model" in the old days. I do not know if that is true of the Gold Cup National Match.

I do not think that the .38 Super Automatic was properly called a Model 1911, and the Colt Lightweight Commander of 1950, which was chambered in 9MM, .38 Super, and .45 ACP, was neither a Model 1911 nor a Model 1911A1. Nor was the Rock Island developed General Officer's Model in .45 ACP.

Many of today's Colt .45 pistols have later model designations such as "1991".

It is true that these guns and the compacts of today all trace back to the original 1911 that fired the .45 ACP cartridge. Yeah, I loosely refer to my shorter STI .45 Guardian as a "Model 1911", but I know that I'm incorrect when I do so.

Perhaps one of our historians can expand on this.

wally
December 19, 2010, 12:55 PM
If you go below a 4" barrel the .40S&W makes a lot more sense that the .45ACP to insure adequate penetration.

Oops! I'm wrong. No .40. I assumed that because they had it in 10mm they would have .40 It'd be pretty easy to get the 10mm and fit a .40S&W barrel to it with a lighter recoil spring if you really wanted one.

I've the Armscor clone of the Para P16 .40S&W and its a great shooter. In my experience all double stack .40S&W guns are more reliable than are the .45ACP double stacks based on Para mag tubes (Para, Armscor, Daley/Kimber/Bul)

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