Ruger LCR .38 vs. Ruger LCR .357


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stinger 327
December 20, 2010, 08:18 PM
Is the difference only 17.10 oz. for .357 and 13.5 oz for .38 other than calibers?:confused:

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Texasred
December 20, 2010, 08:30 PM
they are the same size, but .357 is made of stainless not aluminum/titanium.

stinger 327
December 21, 2010, 02:43 AM
they are the same size, but .357 is made of stainless not aluminum/titanium.
What does this mean? That the .357 will be heavier in weight?

Deus Machina
December 21, 2010, 07:54 AM
That's it. The same reason a steel-framed pistol is heavier than one with an alloy frame. Simple material density, and the slightly longer cylinder on .357.

The stainless instead of aluminum/titanium/whatever is for the extra strength .357 needs.

stinger 327
December 21, 2010, 12:42 PM
That's it. The same reason a steel-framed pistol is heavier than one with an alloy frame. Simple material density, and the slightly longer cylinder on .357.

The stainless instead of aluminum/titanium/whatever is for the extra strength .357 needs.
This is going to be a tough one. Decisions decisions which one to get?
I would think it makes more sense to get the LCR .357 over the LCR .38 special because the .357 model can shoot both loads. If you don't give up anything in size and a 4 ounce increase the .357 would be the one to get.

LightningMan
December 21, 2010, 07:59 PM
I handled both the .357 & .38 side by side at a gun show last weekend and yes the frames are made from different materials but the cylinders looked to be the same length, that was eyeballing them side by side. LM

JDMorris
December 21, 2010, 08:14 PM
I will probably never buy a handgun restricted to shooting .38 only.
I still don't have my own one yet but I shoot with my dad alot, And I think having the versatility of .357 for serious buisiness and .38 for plinking it great.

motorcycle-charlie
December 21, 2010, 08:44 PM
load that thing up with some .38 +p and i dont think who ever is on the wrong side of the barrel will question how serious your buisness is.

The Lone Haranguer
December 21, 2010, 09:26 PM
I can see a .357 version for those who want a little more weight for shooting the hotter .38 Special loads, but it is still too light for magnums, IMO. I found even the much heavier SP101 quite a handful with those.

stinger 327
December 22, 2010, 03:04 AM
I can see a .357 version for those who want a little more weight for shooting the hotter .38 Special loads, but it is still too light for magnums, IMO. I found even the much heavier SP101 quite a handful with those.
I have an SP-101 and this gun is alot heavier than the LCR series. It would be more difficult to use the SP-101 as an EDU vs. these lighter LCR's.

stinger 327
December 22, 2010, 03:05 AM
I will probably never buy a handgun restricted to shooting .38 only.
I still don't have my own one yet but I shoot with my dad alot, And I think having the versatility of .357 for serious buisiness and .38 for plinking it great.
I agree because you can shoot both through a .357. It is just that is the LCR .357 more difficult to carry and conceal than a LCR .38 special?

stinger 327
December 22, 2010, 03:10 AM
I handled both the .357 & .38 side by side at a gun show last weekend and yes the frames are made from different materials but the cylinders looked to be the same length, that was eyeballing them side by side. LM
Which one would be easier to carry and live day to day with?

motorcycle-charlie
December 22, 2010, 07:00 AM
just buy the .357

stinger 327
December 22, 2010, 11:41 AM
just buy the .357

Yes I agree. I don't need to add another caliber to the collection as it starts to get expensive when you spread yourself out with all of these different calibers.

.357 it is:D now here's a good one the Ruger LCR .357 or the Ruger SP-101 .357?:eek:

Creature
December 22, 2010, 12:00 PM
I don't agree. Having carried and shot 357 and 38spl snubbies most of my adult life, given the choice, I would buy the 38spl. Loaded with +P ammo, I would be just as well armed but would have the added benefit of less recoil, which in turn means faster and more accurate follow-up shots.

jon86
December 22, 2010, 12:07 PM
I would buy the 357. If you decide that 357 is too much, just load it with 357. The 357 loaded with 38's will have less felt recoil than the lighter 38 gun. Just get the 357 and be done with it.

stinger 327
December 22, 2010, 12:15 PM
I agree but which one?:eek: SP-101 .357 or LCR .357?:confused:

motorcycle-charlie
December 22, 2010, 12:36 PM
I have an SP-101 and this gun is alot heavier than the LCR series. It would be more difficult to use the SP-101 as an EDU vs. these lighter LCR's.
i thought you said you already have an sp101.

Rob1109
December 22, 2010, 01:43 PM
The 101 is 26oz.! It will be easier to shoot and heavier to carry. Since I got an LCR and a 642 I don't even thing about the 101 unless I plan on the .357, which I would NEVER shoot out of an LCR! Rent it first! For resale the LCR .357 would be a better idea, since there is always some tough guy who can handle it.....maybe.

L-Frame
December 22, 2010, 02:34 PM
For me, since the LCR is too large for pocket carry(my opinion), that means it would be carried the same way I carry all my revolvers, in a IWB holster, which means that the 4 extra ounces mean nothing. They would, though, mean something in terms of recoil control and simply having a stronger gun that will hold up better using higher pressure rounds.

So, for me, it would be a no brainer, even though I do not plan on ever shooting .357's out of that light of a gun, (38 plus p's are what I'd use, or the Buffalo Bore .38 158 gr rounds), I would get the .357 for the little extra weight, and a stronger gun.

Rob1109
December 22, 2010, 02:41 PM
Buffalo Bore! also, the Gold Dot +P short barrel.

stinger 327
December 22, 2010, 02:51 PM
i thought you said you already have an sp101.
I do but I love this Lipsey limited edition with grey finish and wood insert handles.
I was also thinking of getting a second one but with the Crimson Laser Grip.
It would be the same with the LCR model also equipped with Crimson Laser grip.
So the choice comes up again for me in .357 another SP-101 standard shiny stainless steel model with Crimson laser grips or the LCP design in .357.

stinger 327
December 22, 2010, 02:54 PM
For me, since the LCR is too large for pocket carry(my opinion), that means it would be carried the same way I carry all my revolvers, in a IWB holster, which means that the 4 extra ounces mean nothing. They would, though, mean something in terms of recoil control and simply having a stronger gun that will hold up better using higher pressure rounds.

So, for me, it would be a no brainer, even though I do not plan on ever shooting .357's out of that light of a gun, (38 plus p's are what I'd use, or the Buffalo Bore .38 158 gr rounds), I would get the .357 for the little extra weight, and a stronger gun.
There is more versatility with the .357 model whether it be the LCR model or SP-101 model.

Cosmoline
December 22, 2010, 03:09 PM
Someone who has the .357 LCR--can you give a detailed recoil report or better yet a good video from the side? I'm skeptical about the shootability of these little things with magnum rounds but maybe Ruger has figured out a way to make it work. Comparing with the SP-101 would be ideal.

stinger 327
December 22, 2010, 03:40 PM
Someone who has the .357 LCR--can you give a detailed recoil report or better yet a good video from the side? I'm skeptical about the shootability of these little things with magnum rounds but maybe Ruger has figured out a way to make it work. Comparing with the SP-101 would be ideal.
I have faith that the Ruger SP-101 is a robust gun and will hold up. It's also heavier. I realize recoil on SP-101 won't be as bad as the lighter carry model LCR. Like I said before I heard those S & W Scandium/Titanium ultralight snubbies are no fun to shoot. These light snubbies are just for when you must use them as a last resort Just when you need to and that shouldn't be much if any.
But figure this gun won't be under constant fire with .357 loads and it's a carry & conceal gun so it won't get the kind of use a normal firearm might get at the range.

Rob1109
December 22, 2010, 04:06 PM
At one of our local ranges an instructor tells of a student who broke two of the small bones in his hand firing S & W Scandium/Titanium .357!

stinger 327
December 22, 2010, 04:30 PM
At one of our local ranges an instructor tells of a student who broke two of the small bones in his hand firing S & W Scandium/Titanium .357!
I wonder what's the reason for this?
How light that gun weighed?
Reason being not heavy enough shock gets absorbed into hand.:eek::confused:
Hopefully the LCR is not like this.:confused:

redbullitt
December 22, 2010, 04:33 PM
I love my lcr, and since I am at work, am carrying it right now... but ill not be shooting any 357 mag from it lol. 357 was doable but a handful when I had the sp101. They would be plain miserable from this little thing IMHO.

stinger 327
December 22, 2010, 04:55 PM
I love my lcr, and since I am at work, am carrying it right now... but ill not be shooting any 357 mag from it lol. 357 was doable but a handful when I had the sp101. They would be plain miserable from this little thing IMHO.
So you have a LCR .357? We haven't got them here yet. I would like to get the one with the Crimson Trace Laser Grips.
I find with the SP-101 with .357 loads fine to shoot not painful to shoot except for the 125 grain .357 Buffalo Bore load.

Rob1109
December 22, 2010, 05:08 PM
I had my 101 Mag-Na-Ported, which made it far more "reasonable" to shoot with any load. My .38+p LCR is NOT FUN to shoot with heavy (read Buffalo Bore 158gr. SWCHP GC +P) loads. The std. BB 158Gr. SWCHP is about the same vel. as everyone else's +P (FBI) load.

stinger 327
December 22, 2010, 11:25 PM
I had my 101 Mag-Na-Ported, which made it far more "reasonable" to shoot with any load. My .38+p LCR is NOT FUN to shoot with heavy (read Buffalo Bore 158gr. SWCHP GC +P) loads. The std. BB 158Gr. SWCHP is about the same vel. as everyone else's +P (FBI) load.
This is very interesting to know. Thanks for the info.
The recoil I find on my standard SP-101 is fine even with the BB 125 grain .357. I expect that recoil especially with Buffalo Bore loads.
The SP-101 is a bit heavier than the LCR .357 or .38.

Interesting that you find it very uncomfortable to shoot the LCR .38 special even when using regular +P loads? The Buffalo Bore load is a hot load so it is to be expected of that recoil it's just that much worse/painful on a light weight gun.
But the big advantage is that since it's lightweight it's much easier carry & conceal and you are more likely to carry it with you vs. leaving it at home.

Well when I compare the LCR .357 and .38 in person (when the LCR .357 becomes available here) I will see and feel the differences between the two guns.

I am opting more toward the LCR .357 over the LCR .38 because you can put those same .38 +P loads in the LCR 357.

Then it will be a showdown between another SP-101 .357 with Crimson Tracer Laser grips vs. the LCR 357 with Crimson Tracer Laser grips.

Rob1109
December 23, 2010, 01:16 AM
The 101 is 26oz. empty. Easy to shoot almost anything, especially since porting. The LCR is 13oz. .38's std. vel. are fine. BB +P is not fine. but if we want 1100 FPS. then we pay the price of heavy recoil. The LCR is a pleasure to carry as is the 642. But, with both you would have a problems with 2nd shot using BB +P's trying to pull back down to POA from recoil. I would by the .357 only for resale value. The extra 4 oz. will NOT help you with .357 recoil!

stinger 327
December 23, 2010, 02:39 AM
The 101 is 26oz. empty. Easy to shoot almost anything, especially since porting. The LCR is 13oz. .38's std. vel. are fine. BB +P is not fine. but if we want 1100 FPS. then we pay the price of heavy recoil. The LCR is a pleasure to carry as is the 642. But, with both you would have a problems with 2nd shot using BB +P's trying to pull back down to POA from recoil. I would by the .357 only for resale value. The extra 4 oz. will NOT help you with .357 recoil!
The LCR 38 and .357 guns are alot easier to carry and conceal than the .357 SP-101?

Rob1109
December 23, 2010, 12:15 PM
Haven't you looked at them?

stinger 327
December 23, 2010, 12:18 PM
Haven't you looked at them?
Not the LCR .357 yet because it hasn't been approved here yet.

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