Range Report - My '58 Remington Christmas Present


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Shoot The Moon
December 27, 2010, 06:16 PM
Well, the 25th arrived! (and went, and then the 26th....) but today I finally grabbed a couple of hours and headed off to the range with the new toy.

I currently have the powder measure set at 26gns/vol and am using 777. The ball is home cast .454, loaded sprue up directly on top of the powder. I fill each chamber mouth with vegetable shortnening (Crisco to most of you guys!) and am using RWS #1075 caps

The chamfered chambers are great - I think I prefer this system to the 'ring of lead' that I get when loading .380 RB into my Uberti '51 Navy. It seemed easier to seat the ball consistently too - maybe the chamfered chamber or maybe the better rammer?

The RWS caps are a little too tight, I will search out some Rem or CCI #11's - but the '51 has Treso nipples and the RWS fit well on that, so that's all I have.

All loaded up and I head down to 15yds, a good starting distance I thought with an unknown revolver. The recoil is noticeably more than the .36 but not uncomfortable - although I notice the grip shape is working as intended and the whole revolver swings up under recoil.

1st target is shown below, along with a couple of photos of me shooting. I gave up after four cylinders as the cold was getting to my fingers! The gun shows great promise and I really like the better sights compared to the open top Colts. Roll on the better weather!

I had to wipe the base pin down each cylinder to keep the cylinder spinning free - used veg shortening there too, seemed to help with the fouling. Any tips here greatly appreciated!

Hope you like the photos...

STM

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arcticap
December 27, 2010, 09:45 PM
It looks like the Euroarms Remingtons are accurate shooters and that you found a good load.
Thanks for sharing your range report. :)

BCRider
December 27, 2010, 10:03 PM
Based on some reading I went with Canola (rape seed) cooking oil for lubing my Uberti Remingtons instead of Crisco lard. I think you'll find that it makes for a better arbor pin lube than the rather thick and greasy Crisco shortening option. In fact based on a YouTube vid by a guy that used the same oil over the ball I also went with that since on my Ubertis the ball seats very low in the cylinder directly against the powder. I was worried about being able to stuff enough shortening into the holes so I went with a single drop of oil which wicks around the ball nicely and seals off any possible gaps that could lead to a chainfire.

But along the way I also found that the Canola dissolves and frees up any powder residue fouling nicely. And of course on a cold day such as yours it doesn't stiffen up like the grease like shortening would do.

Anyhow, I don't need to tell you how great the Remington pattern guns are. You already know. And I love the third shot with your gun hand enveloped in the fog and left hand casually warming up in your pocket.... :D

Hellgate
December 28, 2010, 12:38 AM
I love the smaller, lighter frame of the Euroarms Remmies. They are easier to point.

Horace Hogsnort
December 28, 2010, 02:27 AM
When the gun gets hot does that lard stay in place or does it tend to melt and run all over the place?

Shoot The Moon
December 28, 2010, 09:30 AM
When the gun gets hot does that lard stay in place or does it tend to melt and run all over the place?
I'm not sure it got hot given the low ambient temp and the fact I only managed 24 shots, but I did notice that the shortening is sprayed all over the bottom of the barrel and rammer. The Colts I have do not do this.. I'm going to try the cooking oil suggested above - also read somewhere synthetic wheel bearing grease.. (presumably so there's no petroleum base)

45-70 Ranger
December 28, 2010, 09:31 AM
Good range report. Love that grouping. I had some officers that were in my division that couldn't shoot that tight with their Glocks and SIGs! The Remington is always my "go to gun" for tight groups.

The 1075 caps are just a tad small for my Remington as well, but fit my old Dragoon like a glove. I think I have 4 different types of caps for all my C&B Revolvers!

Oh and your load is just right. I was using 777 with 35 gr. vol., and it was too hot to print as opposed to the same load with BP. I cut back to 24 gr. of 777 and it prints dead on and real tight. You're on the right track to be sure.

Look forward to more on your Remington at the range! Glad you got a present that is so much fun!!

Later, Wade

BHP FAN
December 28, 2010, 10:04 AM
I'd use Thompson's Bore Butter or wonder lube 1000 on the base pin, and I use grease cookies [beeswax,Crisco, with a dash of Bore Butter for cohesivness] On a veggie wad [thin cork from Buffalo Bros] or Wonder Wads then a home cast .454 ball, and 28 gr. 3f Goex, touched off br Remington # 11 caps, but it's hard to argue with your results!

Dave Markowitz
December 28, 2010, 12:35 PM
Nice shooting and range report. I have a Euroarms 1858 as well and it's a fine shooter.

I've come to prefer Ballistol for lubricating the cylinder base pins of my cap and ball revolvers. I can get 3 or 4 cylinders full before I need to pull it for a wipe down to keep the gun running.

Hellgate
December 28, 2010, 03:41 PM
When shooting my Remingtons I keep a small plastic squeeze bottle of oil (olive oil or Ballistol) in my shoot box. After each cylinder is charged I put a single drop of oil at the front of the frame where the cylinder face touches and jiggle/twirl the cylinder to work the oil down onto the cylinder pin. That frees up the cylinder and no binding. Takes about 15 seconds per gun and they will shoot all day. No pulling out the cylinder & wiping down the pin and getting my hands all blackened.

19&41
December 29, 2010, 08:16 PM
This grease stays greasy, does not run when hot and otherwise stays in place. It also inhibits rust when a thin coat is applied to the firearm and will protect for years.

http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com/super-lube-synthetic-grease-3-oz-p-68041.html

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