"traditional" 9mm's??


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Smokey99
December 30, 2010, 12:50 PM
:confused: In search of 9mm with METAL frame, No light rails, DA/SA with decocker, barrel length fro 4" to 5", new or old production, and preferably single stack. Recommendations???

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Lonestar49
December 30, 2010, 12:58 PM
...

Sig P228n/r double stack mags or P225n/r single stack mags.


Have both, excellent 9mm's


Ls

oasis618
December 30, 2010, 01:03 PM
I'd have to say CZ 75D except they are double stack or maybe an older S&W single stack.

easyg
December 30, 2010, 01:14 PM
DA/SA with decocker,
This is not what I would call "traditional".

kokapelli
December 30, 2010, 01:15 PM
Yes a CZ75B or D. It is a double stack but the grip is still pretty slim.

HKGuns
December 30, 2010, 01:18 PM
Hk p7

forindooruseonly
December 30, 2010, 01:25 PM
Smith and Wesson 39

ROAshooter
December 30, 2010, 01:35 PM
what could be more "traditional" than the classic Browning High Power?

thehootman
December 30, 2010, 01:43 PM
Makarov PM. It just don't get any better than this in steel pistols. It is still going strong to this very day and being used in Afghanistan as we speak. The AK 47 of the auto loader pistol world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makarov_pistol

winchester '97
December 30, 2010, 01:46 PM
Seconding the makarov, mine has adjustable sights and it extremely accurate and the only pistol i would trust my life to.

kokapelli
December 30, 2010, 01:59 PM
what could be more "traditional" than the classic Browning High Power?
He wanted S/D action trigger and he also wanted "traditional" 9mm's."

rcmodel
December 30, 2010, 02:05 PM
DA/SA with decocker,
This is not what I would call "traditional". Well, that is the "traditional" way SA/DA auto's worked from the day they were invented.

Think:
Walther PP & PPK.
Walther P-38.
S&W 39.
Most later metal frame S&W 39/59 series.
The whole SIG line.
Beretta 92.
Makarov.
And so on and so forth.

A traditional SA/DA auto pistol must have a safety / decocker of some sort to get from cocked SA after firing or loading, to a DA first pull again.

rc

joe_security
December 30, 2010, 02:06 PM
Sounds like a third generation S&W. The safety is the decocker on these pistols. The 3904 should meet the specs as defined by the OP.

rbernie
December 30, 2010, 02:14 PM
Metal frame, DA/SA, 9mm, single stack, and no rails? Without question, the P6/P225.

If you're willing to go double-stack, then the BHP and P226/P228/P229 family and S&W 3rd gen pistols all come into play as well.

thehootman
December 30, 2010, 02:29 PM
Metal frame, DA/SA, 9mm, single stack, and no rails? Without question, the P6/P225.

If you're willing to go double-stack, then the BHP and P226/P228/P229 family and S&W 3rd gen pistols all come into play as well.
Fine gun. Well designed and superbly crafted with out a doubt.

GrimmLV
December 30, 2010, 02:30 PM
Ruger P Series, but they are double-stack.

dayid
December 30, 2010, 02:38 PM
Ruger P Series, but they are double-stack.
Just get some crippled CA-OK magazines and you're good!

bigfatdave
December 30, 2010, 10:00 PM
In search of 9mm with METAL frame, No light rails, DA/SA with decocker, barrel length fro 4" to 5", new or old production, and preferably single stack. Recommendations???
Walther P.38 or the descendants, the P.1, P.4, and P.5

WRGADog
December 30, 2010, 10:05 PM
Beretta 92 or any Sig.

rellascout
December 30, 2010, 11:00 PM
P225/P6 fits what you have asked for perfectly. Look no further.

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3732/p6v2ce3.jpg

Shadow 7D
December 30, 2010, 11:47 PM
and the Zastava / EAA EZ9

PabloJ
December 31, 2010, 12:10 AM
:confused: In search of 9mm with metal frame, no light rails, da/sa with decocker, barrel length fro 4" to 5", new or old production, and preferably single stack. Recommendations???
s&w 5906.

REAPER4206969
December 31, 2010, 01:00 AM
Walther P1
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT4GMd6Q4CpFtD4itFCtP2jDnRWtxZ7ZuDGm7n7HOAaBW13_NnX

Tomcat47
December 31, 2010, 01:29 AM
Within your criteria...

S&W Model 39 - One of my personal best and one of most accurate porduction 9's ever made. (They were aluminum frame however there was a steel frame version as well) I had all steel nickel plated,beautiful!

Browning prob next choice .....

Outside your criteria.....(double stack)

2nd / 3rd Gen Smith
Beretta 92 (personal fav)
Taurus 92/99(personal fav)
Sig - sevral to choose from

New - havent tried but really want to shoot one ! :
Taurus 1911SS - 9

Pics Taurus 1911SS-9 and S&W mod 39

CajunBass
December 31, 2010, 01:39 AM
Smith & Wesson 39-2. Accurate, reliable, and almost good enough looking to be a revolver. ;)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/CajunBass/handguns/100_0206.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/CajunBass/handguns/100_0208.jpg

The steel frame (blue) version is the 539.

Sebastian the Ibis
December 31, 2010, 02:17 AM
What about a WWII Luger?

REAPER4206969
December 31, 2010, 02:32 AM
The Luger is SAO.

Tomcat47
December 31, 2010, 02:56 AM
Nice CajunBass.....That says it all!

Nushif
December 31, 2010, 03:14 AM
Beretta 92 ... Yup.

thedriver101
December 31, 2010, 03:26 AM
CajunBass: at first I thought, no way that's an S&W auto! Too pretty!

Morgo
December 31, 2010, 07:21 AM
Sig P210 or BHP

cwl1862
December 31, 2010, 02:42 PM
Any of the 3rd gen S&W or model 39 variants would fill your need perfectly. I recommend the 39-2, 908, 3913 or the Lady Smith variant (if you can find one) or any of the previously mentioned SIG's. All will serve you admirably.:D

McCall911
December 31, 2010, 03:39 PM
Smith & Wesson Model 39 and variants come to mind.
Model 639 is the stainless version IIRC.

rellascout
December 31, 2010, 03:50 PM
It amazes me how many people did not bother to read the OP. I suggested the P225 which is .10" short of the 4" requirement but meets the rest so close I had to mention it. The S&W 39 along with its all steel counterpart also fits.

Why are so many people suggesting SAO guns and double stack guns like the Beretta 92, most Sigs, BHP & Taurus 92? :eek:

kokapelli
December 31, 2010, 04:15 PM
Why are so many people suggesting SAO guns and double stack guns like the Beretta 92, most Sigs, BHP & Taurus 92? :eek:
Is there a reason that a double stack with a grip almost if not as thin as most single stack guns is not an option?

gordy
December 31, 2010, 04:37 PM
Sig 225 or the p6.
Or the S&W 639.
One or all would be what you want.

wbwanzer
December 31, 2010, 04:45 PM
S&W 3913.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m145/wbwanzer/SW3913001.jpg

Nushif
December 31, 2010, 05:06 PM
It amazes me how many people did not bother to read the OP. I suggested the P225 which is .10" short of the 4" requirement but meets the rest so close I had to mention it. The S&W 39 along with its all steel counterpart also fits.

Why are so many people suggesting SAO guns and double stack guns like the Beretta 92, most Sigs, BHP & Taurus 92?

The term preferable must have thrown us off ... care to enlighten us to what it really means?
I stated the Beretta 92 because it is one of the emblematic 9mm semi-autos. As is the BHP. It has high "traditional" value .... along with all the features requested, with one feature he'd "preferably" not have.

Harley Quinn
December 31, 2010, 05:58 PM
Smokey99 (OP) has not responded as of yet... Must not be any he likes:D

rellascout
December 31, 2010, 05:58 PM
Is there a reason that a double stack with a grip almost if not as thin as most single stack guns is not an option?

I am not the OP so I cannot really answer that. He stated:

In search of 9mm with METAL frame, No light rails, DA/SA with decocker, barrel length fro 4" to 5", new or old production, and preferably single stack. Recommendations???

I took preferably single stack to heart. IMHO the 92 certainly does not meet they criteria. The CZ75 is a huge double stack with and extremely long length in the DA of pull compared to single stack 9mms. IMHO it has one of the longest length DA pulls do to the placement and shape of the trigger. One of the biggest draw backs to the CZ is its size.

Sigs like the P228 or P226 are significantly larger than say the single stack P225. The length of pull from the backstrap to the front of the trigger on a P225 is about 7 1/8" while the Sig P226 is 7 5/8" roughly. That 1/2" in terms of trigger length is huge IMHO.

I do not have a 92 in front of me to measure but IIRC it is similar to the double stacked Sigs.

You can argue the that the BHP is a very thin, in the grip, double stack. The BHP is even shorter due to is SA trigger. Measures about 6 3/4" but is SA and has no decocker. IF I read the OP correctly it is disqualified as a result and is less than preferable because it is a double stack 9mm.

I mean seriously someone threw in the HK P7 which is not even close to DA/SA and has not decocker. When someone asked for suggestion why do so many people ignore the details and simply name their favorite gun?

varoadking
December 31, 2010, 06:31 PM
In search of 9mm with METAL frame, No light rails, DA/SA with decocker, barrel length fro 4" to 5", new or old production, and preferably single stack. Recommendations???

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/varoadking/Mancave/m39-2006.jpg

SharpsDressedMan
December 31, 2010, 08:03 PM
^ Very nice. I like the presentation walnut, also.

weisse52
January 1, 2011, 12:50 AM
P225/P6 fits what you have asked for perfectly. Look no further.


What he said... and it does match what the OP ask for.:neener:

TXiceman
January 1, 2011, 01:03 AM
I love my Baby Desert Eagle with the 9mm barrel and my Beretta 92FS. Both are all metal, full frame and shoot great....and have double action and a decocker.

bigfatdave
January 1, 2011, 01:08 AM
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=276&name=German+Walther+P1+9mm+Pistol

AIM surplus has Walther P.1 pistols for $319 before shipping

gc70
January 1, 2011, 01:20 AM
Smith & Wesson Model 3906 - the full size, really all-steel, single-stack.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gc70/SW3906.jpg

OldCavSoldier
January 1, 2011, 01:20 AM
SIG P239, S&W M39-2, or S&W M908S. I own one of each and I would stake my life on any of them. They just keep on going, and going, and going.....

DTWeaver
January 13, 2011, 12:42 PM
Astra A75; Astra A70; Star B/Super B (5"bbl); Star BM 3.77"; Star BKM-- alloy frame BM.

These Spanish made pistol are well made and reliable. These are all steel (except the BKM), single stack 9mm. The Astra's have safety/decockers. The Star are improved "1911 types". Unfortunately neither Astra nor Star is still in business. Look them up; you wont be sorry if you invest in one.

ColtPythonElite
January 13, 2011, 12:46 PM
I carried a S&W 5906 as a duty weapon for nearly ten years. It was a reliable firearm.

metalman8600
January 13, 2011, 02:12 PM
Beretta 92fs

http://www.libertysblog.com/uploaded_images/92FS_S_maxi-726208.jpg

Shipwreck
January 13, 2011, 02:44 PM
Beretta 92fs

+1000

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/Beretta-set1.jpg

fatcat4620
January 13, 2011, 10:15 PM
I will sell you a sig 228 right now for 500

FIVETWOSEVEN
January 13, 2011, 11:35 PM
People really need to learn to read.

SINGLE STACK MAGAZINES! This is what the OP requested. Those with double stack magazines are disqualified.

READ ABOVE

BlindJustice
January 13, 2011, 11:57 PM
THe S&W MOdel 39 - DA/SA Decocker and single stack

Note: The Illinois State Police was the first major LEO agency
to switch to type action semi-auto -and- go to 9mm Luger. The
original had problmes - ISP and S&W figured it out
and the 39-2 and all that follow have a fine reputation of
rliability, service pistol accuracy. The 39-2 was followed
by the 3913 then the shorty Chiefs Special CS9 and finally
the just discontinued 908.

39(-2) was the first AMeircan made DA/SA 9x19 - early '50s
when the USAF was thinking of replacing the S&W Revolvers.
They have the traditional look, blued and all.

Double Stack - my choice the CZ 75B 1.4" wide is a 1/10"
less than my 1911.

R-

metalman8600
January 13, 2011, 11:59 PM
Metal DA/SA single stack 9mm? That is a tough one. Most are double stack.

But the Walther P-38 has everything you want: single stack, DA/SA, 9mm, metal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_P38

http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/handguns/germany/hg68/1287734278.jpg

fatcat4620
January 14, 2011, 04:29 PM
...and preferably single stack
dang fivetwoseven, learn to read yourself. Did he say disqualified? nope, your puting words in his mouth

texas bulldog
January 14, 2011, 05:13 PM
S&W 39 and it's descendants fit the bill perfectly. I hope to find a nice used one myself one day. Sig 228 and 239 would also work. 239 might be shorter in the barrel than you want.

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