BHP won't group


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351 WINCHESTER
December 30, 2010, 05:57 PM
We took some guns to the range the other day. All shot well except for my Browning. It was all over the place with different ammo and shooters. This is the first time the pistol was shot for accuracy and it was bought used. Someone did file down the front sight as it shoots high. I just took it apart. The barrel was pretty clean and has strong rifling. The gun is typical Browning quality, except it won't shoot.

What should I check?

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xr1200
December 30, 2010, 06:03 PM
what type of hold and distance, also what exact make and model, is it one of the recent IZI imports.

rellascout
December 30, 2010, 06:31 PM
If you have a filed down front sight I would go over the pistol with a fine toothed comb. You have to question the judgment of someone who would file down the front sight. How is the barrel to slide fit? How is the slide to frame play? Most BHPs will rattle a bit. They are not custom 1911 tight but if they get really loose it can effect accuracy.

Did you shoot it from a rest? At what distance? What type of ammo? Happen to have a picture of the sprayed target?

What is the origin of the gun? You say it is used where did you get it?

RGPM1A
December 30, 2010, 06:49 PM
If the gun never had the trigger worked on it is probably pretty heavy. Stock BHPs usually have very heavy, but crisp, trigger pulls from the factory - at least the last several new ones I shot or owned over the last few years. That might explain why its harder to shoot well. Also the stock fixed sights are not the best either - another thing that makes them hard to shoot well.

BTW I love HiPowers and are some of my favorite guns.

thehootman
December 30, 2010, 06:59 PM
When was the last time you had the barrel lock up lugs and link pin checked? The Browning design is famous for stretching links and wearing link pins. That is the second most common problem after the staked on plunger tube and ejectors working loose or falling off.

A worn link pin can cause all kinds of problems. I worked on one that could not hit a 4x8 sheet of plywood at 25 yards because of a poorly fitted barrel link and pin. After a refit it was grouping inside six inches.

351 WINCHESTER
December 30, 2010, 07:08 PM
The gun hasn't been messed with except for the front sight. The trigger, while heavy, breaks clean. The slide to frame to barrel fit is typical Browning. I believe it's a mk111 two tone, Belgium/Portugal. We were using w/w bulk and federal champion. All other pistols/revolvers shot very well btw. It does not have link pin nor does it have a plunger tube aka 1911.

rellascout
December 30, 2010, 07:09 PM
Did you shoot it from a rest? At what distance? What were the groups like?

351 WINCHESTER
December 30, 2010, 07:22 PM
It was shot from the same rest that we shot the other handguns. Distance was 15 yds. and the groups were 4" give or take. I shot a glock 19 for the first time and had no problem keeping most shots in the x.

DT Guy
December 30, 2010, 07:32 PM
I wouldn't spend a lot of time checking link pins or plunger tubes in a hi-power, since it has neither.
Most HP's I've owned will group fairly well, even if a bit loose, but the can be a bit ammo-sensitive. Try a few different loadings with different bullet weights to see if it has a preference.
Larry

Jaywalker
December 31, 2010, 07:26 PM
Agree with DT Guy. I'd try hollow point - it groups better in mine than metal case. My preference is Remington 115g HP, non-P+.

SharpsDressedMan
December 31, 2010, 08:06 PM
Premium bulleted ammo seems to be more accurate than any mil-spec or ball ammo of any manufacture. I guess sometimes you DO get what you pay for. Even using the high end bullets in reloads results in more accurate ammo. And I am speaking of Hi Powers, as I shoot a few.

JohnBT
December 31, 2010, 10:22 PM
Are the sights loose?

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