Illegal Immigrants Now Packing Heat !!!


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Waitone
January 24, 2003, 11:56 AM
http://www.quepasa.com/content/?c=104&id=96473

Border Patrol: More undocumented immigrants arriving armed


Douglas, U.S., January 23, 2003 (EFE)- The U.S. Border Patrol is reporting an increase in the number of detained undocumented immigrants carrying weapons, which could be a response to gun-toting vigilante groups operating on the north side of the frontier.

In fewer than four months, Border Patrol agents in the Tucson district have reported 12 arrests of undocumented immigrants carrying knives or handguns - twice the number reported over the past two years.

Agents last week reported being fired upon while on patrol in the desert as well as the confiscation of three pistols from migrants, Border Patrol spokesman Frank Amarillas said.

Jen Allen, assistant director of the Border Action Network, an immigrant rights group, said the only ones to blame for the rising incidence of undocumented immigrants crossing the border with weapons are the civilian patrol groups, which - she claimed - operate freely in the region.

"Immigrants have heard about these paramilitary groups patrolling the border carrying weapons and rifles," said Allen. "They are afraid of being attacked."

The presence of such groups has only served to increase tension among area residents, she said, describing the situation as "a time bomb."

So far, not a single undocumented immigrant has offered any resistance when stopped by vigilantes or ranchers, she added.

David Cheyney, spokesman for the Texas-based Ranch Rescue group said the presence of armed immigrant smugglers and drug runners in the Arizona desert is the main reason why he and his colleagues carry semi-automatic rifles.

In the event of a possible attack, "I'm sure that none of our members will hesitate in defending himself," Cheyney said.

He acknowledged that his group, which makes "citizen's arrests" of immigrants, has yet to detain an undocumented immigrant carrying a weapon.

Chris Simcox, owner and editor of the Tombstone Tumbleweed newspaper and founder of the group Homeland Defense, said members of his organization have been fired on three times while patrolling the border.

Simcox, 42, said death threats he has received since setting up the civilian patrol have led him to carry his .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol with him wherever he goes.

Reports of an increase in the number of armed undocumented migrants crossing the border were received skeptically by some local activists.

Isabel Garcia, an immigration attorney and the director of the Arizona Human Rights Coalition, questioned the veracity of the Border Patrol figures.

The federal agency may be doctoring the numbers in an effort to attract a bigger budget, she added.

"That way, they keep on militarizing the border," Garcia said.

The proliferation of paramilitary groups has only served to complicate things, increasing the likelihood of tragedies occurring, she said.

"They're shameless and even resort to posting pictures on the Internet of groups of undocumented immigrants they have stopped, as if they were trophies," she said, pointing to a video on the Web page of a group calling itself American Patrol.

The video features a step-by-step account of how members go about detecting and detaining undocumented immigrants.

Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) has called for a congressional investigation into the activities of the vigilante groups and their tax-exempt status. EFE

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rock jock
January 24, 2003, 12:05 PM
"Immigrants have heard about these paramilitary groups patrolling the border carrying weapons and rifles," said Allen. "They are afraid of being attacked."
Fine, don't illegally cross our borders.

Art Eatman
January 24, 2003, 12:22 PM
"Isabel Garcia, an immigration attorney and the director of the Arizona Human Rights Coalition" says:

"They're shameless and even resort to posting pictures on the Internet of groups of undocumented immigrants they have stopped, as if they were trophies,"... pointing to a video on the Web page of a group calling itself American Patrol."

Ya wanna know about Political Correctness? How about her changing the meaning of "evidence" to "trophies", as a function of racist, left-wing politics?

Art

El Tejon
January 24, 2003, 12:39 PM
Illegal immigrants carrying weapons? So the reporter has been to Hammond, Indiana then?

YankeeRebel
January 24, 2003, 12:40 PM
Did I read this correctly that they are crossing the boarder with pistols? Where did they get them? As far as I remember it is illegal for individuals in Mexico to have firearms or anything related to firearms. They are breaking the law in mexico before they even come here and we expect them to obey our laws after they arrive?

Joe Demko
January 24, 2003, 12:46 PM
Fancy that. Illegals with weapons. Quite shocking. Why, in all my years in Laredo, I don't believe I ever even heard of a Mexicano possessing a weapon.

Skunkabilly
January 24, 2003, 01:23 PM
http://www.barrettrifles.com/images/model95.jpg

:D

4v50 Gary
January 24, 2003, 01:25 PM
Awww c'mon. Mexico has tight gun control and the average peasant can't own a firearm. Therefore, how could they pack what they ain't got?:p

Master Blaster
January 24, 2003, 01:35 PM
They must have bought their guns at a gunshow, just ask Sarah Brady!!!

:fire:

Ledbetter
January 24, 2003, 01:42 PM
The smart money would bet that either the Mexican government or some well-heeled patron is passing them out. Either that, or the carriers are out-and-out crooks. I don't remember seeing any gunstores in Mexico.

Looked at in one way, the arming of the invaders is just the next step in taking the western U.S. back "one house at a time."

We should aid US citizens in doing what our government won't do for us: guard our borders.:banghead:

Gordon
January 24, 2003, 07:30 PM
Skunkabilly where did you get a picture of my "Douglas varmint rifle"? :D

Skunkabilly
January 24, 2003, 09:10 PM
WHo's Douglas?

MitchSchaft
January 24, 2003, 09:40 PM
These people have the right to defend themselves, no?

Kcustom45
January 24, 2003, 10:10 PM
David Cheyney, spokesman for the Texas-based Ranch Rescue group
These people have the right to defend their property, no?

Standing Wolf
January 24, 2003, 11:21 PM
<sarcasm> We have a border somewhere? </sarcasm>

clem
January 26, 2003, 03:14 PM
Lets see now:

Illegal entry into another country + armed + wearing cilivian clothing + firing on that countires law officers = An invasion of armed spys!

Ain't that like WAR?

For Isabel Garcia, see:

http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/derechoshumanos.html

For Congress man Grijalva, see:

http://www.americanpatrol.com/MECHA/MEChAindex.html


Does the word treason mean anything?

PATH
January 26, 2003, 03:39 PM
Let's see....armed citizens from another country are crossing out borders.....sounds like a hostile invasion to me.......

Gordon
January 26, 2003, 05:07 PM
Douglas is where the fun is (the largest illeagal crossing point and where the private patrols are focusing on) Cochise Co Az.

jmbg29
January 26, 2003, 07:04 PM
These people have the right to defend themselves, no?Right up until the moment that they invade our country. Then they should expect to be fired upon should they brandish their "self-defense" weapon in order to facilitate their criminal behavior. Should they make that mistake, then let's hope that it is a fatal mistake on their part.

Gordon
January 26, 2003, 08:42 PM
Hey I never have and never will shoot an unarmed target. This is good.:evil:

Ol' Badger
January 26, 2003, 08:52 PM
Creat a kill zone!
Lets say the first 100 yards into the US of A is a free fire zone! Any citizen can fire into that zone with being charged with any crime. If Pedro wants to run the risks, so be it. Hell, I wont be heading to the range this weekend if it was like this.:evil:

Another Thought?
Is it a crime to shoot into Mexico? Would I be breaking any US Laws? Lets just call Mexico the kill zone!:evil:

MitchSchaft
January 27, 2003, 12:09 AM
Right up until the moment that they invade our country. Then they should expect to be fired upon

I'll buy that :evil:

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