Mystery Rifle - Please Identify (Pic Heavy!)


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gglass
January 8, 2011, 06:02 PM
Calling all rifle experts!

Please tell me what this rifle is. I need the make and model.

I am cleaning this rifle for my boss and he does not know anything about this rifle, other than that it is a 30-06.

The rifle has no manufacturer markings on the barrel, action or stock. It has a serial number stamped next to the front sight mount. it also has USMC stamped on the bolt with a larger font "8" under it.

Thanks in advance for the assistance.

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HOOfan_1
January 8, 2011, 06:17 PM
sporterized M1917 Enfield?

GCBurner
January 8, 2011, 06:23 PM
sporterized M1917 Enfield?
That's what it looks like to me. The rear receiver sight has been milled off, and the magazine reworked to remove the "belly", and it's been badly restocked, and repaired with carriage bolts where the stock split.

waidmann
January 8, 2011, 06:37 PM
The US ordnance bomb and member i.d. of .30-06 cinches the Model 1917 determination. The made for Britain Model 1914 would be in .303. The postwar commercial would be a model 30 Remington. Replacement stocks are out there.

Ohio Gun Guy
January 8, 2011, 06:55 PM
Yep....1917 Sporterized.

Here is one my Dad just cleaned up. Looks a lot like yours / your bosses.

gglass
January 8, 2011, 07:18 PM
Thanks for the responses guys. I thought it might be an Enfield, but I am only familiar with the original military stock and sights.

You guys are the best!

Ohio Gun Guy
January 8, 2011, 07:42 PM
I like this game....got anything else? ;)

Rancho Relaxo
January 8, 2011, 07:44 PM
If you removed the front scope base it will probably have the model 1917 Enfield and the manufacturer.

tn hp
January 8, 2011, 08:18 PM
The "E", which appears in a couple of pictures, tells me that this is an Eddystone manufactured 1917 Enfield. Since the rifle is in 30.06 caliber, I would venture to say that it is was manufactured for the U.S. after entry into WWI and after the contract with the British government was terminated due to the entry of the U.S. into the war.

Remington actually manufactured these great rifles under the Eddystone name. The Eddystone factory was set up in an old locomotive factory but, I do not recall the location. More American troops were issued 1917 Enfields and Canadian Ross rifles than 1903 Sprinfields during WWI.

Enfields were manufactured by Remington, Eddystone and Winchester. Savage Arms also produced these rifles under the British contract. Those made under the British contract were stamped with abreviated manufactruing names. The rifles made for the U.S. were stamped with the full name of the company.

stan rose
January 8, 2011, 08:23 PM
With the bottom metal straightened you could get replacement stock from Richard's Microfit, but be prepared to wait a few weeks. If you wanted to change the bottom metal back to original military configuration you could get a stocks from Boyd's. Or if you are at all inclined you could fix the current stock with AcraGlas and a threaded rod.

Jim Watson
January 8, 2011, 08:47 PM
It was very thoroughly sporterized with rear sight and ears removed, D&T for scope, floorplate straightened, barrel shortened, open sights.

But it has led a hard life with stock split and roughly bolted back together, lots surface rust to scrub off. I'm with Stan, it is worth a new stock.

BrocLuno
January 8, 2011, 10:46 PM
Pattern 1917 Eddystone 06 with a well thought out sporter job (got a few myself :) ). I'd say that stock could be saved. Dismount the action and parts. Drop the rear crossbolt and gently pry the stock crack open. If it's not full of oil, it will accept good epoxy and be as strong as new. If oiled, you will not get a good bond, no matter how hard you try to clean the joint :(

I like West System as it comes a sort of dark red-brown. You can get a small kit at any big marine supply house. It's a 5:1 mix. Or you can go with 1:1 clear from a local decent hardware store as long as it's slow cure like 2-Ton. Tape up the edges of the crack, so you can wipe off the epoxy as it squeezes out w/o messing up the rest. If it'll be a hunter, once the epoxy is set, re-assemble and your good to go. If you want to refinish, do it after you've shot it for a while to make sure all is OK.

Tough as nails old action that was often built into magnums as custom rifles. Eddystones are known to crack the receiver during military refits. They were wound on with like 300 lb/ft of torque, and those that stuck due to rust or galling would crack the receivers when they went to remove the old barrel. Look all around the receiver ring carefully for small hair line cracks running back from the barrel joint. If none (and it likely won't have any), you have one that was not abused so it should either be a great old 06, or anything else you want to make out of it :)

az_imuth
January 8, 2011, 11:51 PM
As stated, you have a U.S. Model of 1917 rifle that was produced by Eddystone, Winchester, or Remington during WW1. The "USMC" on your bolt indicates that it was a replacement bolt manufactured by the United Shoe Machinery Co., often mistaken to indicate the United States Marine Corps. The "eight" you refered to in your post is actually the flaming bomb ordnance symbol used on many U.S. arms of the period.

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