wanting a flintlock


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ontarget
January 9, 2011, 02:29 AM
Can anyone tell me where I might find an entry level flintlock rifle without needing to take out a second mortgage on the house? Maybe one of you have one in your closet you aren't using anymore? Just a thought.:D

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SixxshootinSam
January 9, 2011, 03:15 AM
You'd have to define 'second mortgage'. You will be hard pressed to find a flintlock rifle for under 400. Not saying there won't be any, but I haven't seen many. Try gunsamerica.com there are usually a few used ones floating around.

arcticap
January 9, 2011, 04:56 AM
Try the Sportsman's Guide or on clearance:

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/traditions-pa-pellet-flintlock-muzzleloader.aspx?a=264876

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/traditions-pa-pellet-flintlock-muzzleloader-black-stock-nickel-barrel.aspx?a=264877

http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/product_info.php?products_id=744&osCsid=eb9fea036382c4bfc49ca06f68c2d4ca

Or look for a used Traditions Deer Hunter flintlock. They cost about $275 new at Midsouth Supply.

MICHAEL T
January 9, 2011, 03:26 PM
I have a Traditions Ky rifle it been a good shooter and never a misfire . They around 400 Less if you can find the kit and willing to spend couple night finishing the wood and putting together .

Loosenock
January 9, 2011, 03:53 PM
I would try finding something on the used market. Maybe even a pawn shop, gun show Traditions, CVA or Thompson Center. You could find something in the $100-$350 range.

I invested over $600 just in the parts for my Leman in .54 caliber. That doesn't enclude all the time it took.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/loosenock/lemanmo008.jpg

Good luck on your search.

'Loose

WALKERs210
January 9, 2011, 11:25 PM
Change of heart, cancel what I said

BCRider
January 10, 2011, 12:43 AM
Keep an eye open for used stuff. I got an Armi Sport (now Chiappa) flinter for only $270 a few months back. I've been stymied looking for balls to fit it. But apparently so were any previous owners since the frizzen was still a virgin when I got it.

david58
January 10, 2011, 01:41 AM
Go to historicaltrekking.com, join, watch the virtual round-robin a while, and you will find something nice will pop up for less than a home loan. You are dealing FTF on that site, so not paying consignment prices, AND you are getting (usually) a crafted gun, not a brand name.

A very, very important consideration is the lock - you need to make sure you have a good, well designed lock on a flinter. Stick to newer manufacture using made in the USA locks, and you should be ok. A bad lock can be un-fixable.

goon
January 12, 2011, 04:45 PM
Ontarget - Check your Private Messages. I have a .50 caliber T/C Flintlock Renegade with a new frizzen I'm planning to put for sale shortly.

RaiderANV
January 12, 2011, 07:55 PM
I'm getting ready to turn loose a few Kentucky's I've had for decades. They are in both Flintlock & percussion. Below is a link to a Minuteman flintlock made in the US by Numrich Arms back in the 60-70's.
This is one perfect shooting flintlock with no problems and extremely accurate as well. It's .45 cal and was used in roundball turkey shoots and matches. It more then paid for itself.
The leather cover over the flint lock is something made back in the day to keep the weather off your lock/powder. What's also different about this gun is the cheek rest style stock. Makes for some good shooting!
And at ah wee tad over 55" long I didn't get a full length picture in the album.

http://s408.photobucket.com/albums/pp169/RaiderANV/Numrich%20Arms%20Minuteman%20Flintlock/

Price will be $385 shipped. Comparable guns to this go for nearly double the price. If he doesn't say he wants it then anyone else reading this can speak for it.

Pat 540-878-8024

goon
January 13, 2011, 01:31 PM
Loosenock - I've seen that pic of yours before and it's made me think about assembling the parts for a colonial era fowler or rifle stocked like a fowler. I don't have the skill to do most of the work myself, but I'm hoping that eventually I'll be able to peice something together as you did.

Liberty1776
January 14, 2011, 12:05 AM
there's a couple of flintlock T/Cs on Auction Arms for sale right now under $400

goon
January 14, 2011, 05:16 PM
IMO, $400 is too much to pay for a used T/C flintlock. I see them turn up in the $275-$350 range at local stores. You do have to factor in paying tax, but online you'd also have to factor in shipping.

david58
January 14, 2011, 09:59 PM
Just my opinion, as a traditionalist, a flinter should best be a long rifle. If you shop carefully, you can find a nice long rifle for $750 or less.

Loyalist Dave
January 14, 2011, 10:52 PM
Well the Lyman Great Plains Rifle is very good, and isn't a longrifle. I prefer longrifles though myself. Mine is a .54, Cabin Creek PA Mountain Rifle.

Cabin Creek (http://cabincreek.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4&Itemid=13)

You might try pawn shops, but they tend to get half-stocked plains style guns mostly.

LD

ontarget
January 15, 2011, 02:16 AM
Yeah, I have been scouring pawnshops and no flinters to be had. At least not around here.
Lots of traditional percussion guns though. But I need a flinter to add to the stable sooooo.

Pat M
January 15, 2011, 02:33 AM
I picked up a left-handed lyman great plains rifle in 50 cal last year on clearance from Midway for $412....really didn't need it, but wanted one for years. They lowered the price three times over the course of a week, and I couldn't resist.

grimjaw
January 15, 2011, 10:47 PM
Although not very traditional, the Lyman Deerstalker can be had, new, in a flintlock version from Midsouth Shooters Supply for less than $400 shipped.

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000156033146

May be old news to this thread by now.

jm

david58
January 16, 2011, 12:25 AM
I'd strongly recommend (again) checking out historicaltrekking.com. Pay attention on their round-robin, and you might find something there that is affordable and major steps up in quality from Lyman or Thompson.

goon
January 16, 2011, 01:41 AM
Thanks for the heads-up on historicaltrekking.com. I'm into that kind of historical info/reenacting stuff anyhow.

I also did own a Lyman Deerstalker at one point and found it to be a pretty reliable, decent shooting little muzzleloader. One other thing ontarget might try is posting some wanted to buy ads if necessary after he's done sorting through the info and offers he's getting here. Many times there are guys with an old Lyman or T/C or whatever in the closet that they'd be willing to sell... if they know someone is looking to buy.

david58
January 17, 2011, 10:08 PM
Thanks for the heads-up on historicaltrekking.com. I'm into that kind of historical info/reenacting stuff anyhow.

I also did own a Lyman Deerstalker at one point and found it to be a pretty reliable, decent shooting little muzzleloader. One other thing ontarget might try is posting some wanted to buy ads if necessary after he's done sorting through the info and offers he's getting here. Many times there are guys with an old Lyman or T/C or whatever in the closet that they'd be willing to sell... if they know someone is looking to buy.
A very fun site, and if you like the traditional ways, subscribing to "On the Trail" magazine might be for you - $22 for six issues, they come out sorta every two months (you will end up with six issues for the $22, just maybe over more than 12 months....). And if you fish around on the virtual round robin, you will find good deals on more than just guns.

ontarget
January 17, 2011, 11:08 PM
David58 Try to find a copy of "Backwoodsman Magazine". Every page is full of old timey methods from guns to fishing to canning to smoking, both food and tobacco, and wow, you name it. Very informative with very little ADs.

david58
January 18, 2011, 09:57 AM
Backwoodsman is quite fun - is it still published? Lots of information in there.

On the Trail is pointed to the "experimental archeaologist" [sp] who is trying to discover what life was like then.

Muzzleloader is another very, very good magazine. One of the best "hobby mags" out there, I think (but I'm biased).

Noz
January 18, 2011, 04:12 PM
There is mention made of finding one with a good lock. One without is a major pain in the butt. I messed with a Pedersoli with a poor lock until I completely soured on the whole concept. I traded it off and have never owned another.

ontarget
January 18, 2011, 10:28 PM
Backwoodsman is still available. I just picked up the current issue at Walmart a week or so ago.

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