Man shot while beating dog


January 24, 2003, 03:17 PM
Didn't see this posted anywhere. If I missed it, I apologize.

Winchester, Virginia-AP -- Police say a man tried to beat his dog to death with a shotgun -- but wound up shooting himself to death instead.

Police say the Winchester, Virginia, man called his wife at work yesterday and told her that their dog had bitten him and he intended to kill it.

Police went to the home and found Raymond Poore Junior covered with dog bites and suffering from a shotgun wound to his abdomen.

He died later at Winchester Medical Center.

Police say the shotgun must have gone off while Poore was using it to beat the 30-pound shar-pei. The stock of the weapon was broken and there appeared to be blood and dog hair on it.

A Winchester animal control officer took custody of the dog. There's no word on how badly it was injured.

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January 24, 2003, 03:20 PM
And people say there is no God...


January 24, 2003, 03:20 PM
Sounds like chlorine in the gene pool to me.

January 24, 2003, 03:21 PM
That's Karma if I've ever heard it. No excuse for cruelty to animals.

January 24, 2003, 03:29 PM
Police say a man tried to beat his dog to death with a shotgun -- but wound up shooting himself to death instead. What a biased report!

It ASSUMES that the dog didn't grab the gun on use it on the twit....

January 24, 2003, 03:32 PM
blackhawk, shotguns don't need a dog to pull the trigger. We all know they go off by themselves. :rolleyes:

January 24, 2003, 03:32 PM
What a POS. Good Riddence.

January 24, 2003, 03:33 PM
So, does this mean that guns DO kill people?

Greg L
January 24, 2003, 03:35 PM
Need to find out if he had kids, if not a Darwin candidate for sure.


January 24, 2003, 03:38 PM
Poetic justice if you ask me!

January 24, 2003, 03:38 PM
The guy was either an idiot or a sadist. Why did the dog bite him initially? Was it an attack, a playful or accidental bite that he mistook as aggression, did he torture the dog into it, etc? If he truely needed to put the dog down there were certainly better, more humane ways than to beat it to death. Given the manner chosen I wonder if he didn't abuse the dog leading to it's biting him.

At any rate, even if justified, beating it was a savage way to try to kill the dog. He could have taken it to the vet to have it put down or had animal control take it. If he was so mad that he wanted the "satisfaction" of being the one to do it, I can think of a far more effective and humane, not to mention quicker, less messy and apparently safer (for him) way to do it. He used a shotgun to beat it. Hmm, how about using the shotgun the way it was designed? He'd probably still be here.

January 24, 2003, 03:41 PM
well, if he was serious about killing the dog because it attacked him, he should have just shot it.

if, on the other hand, the dog attacked him because he was beating it with a shotgun, I kinda think he deserved it.

January 24, 2003, 03:41 PM
Guns don't kill people...dogs do :D

January 24, 2003, 03:44 PM
... and justice for all. Good riddance. :neener:

January 24, 2003, 03:46 PM
The police did report finding incriminating doghair on the shotgun.:evil:

January 24, 2003, 03:48 PM
Sic semper tyrannis.

Just a reminder... Winchester's pretty close to West Virginia. And the biggest three lies in WV are:

1. I didn't know she was my sister when I took her to the prom.
2. Sure I have all my teefs.
3. I was only helping that sheep across the fence. I don't know how her back feet got in my wellingtons.


Note for the humor impaired... Everybody makes fun of everybody. That's life. Get over it.

January 24, 2003, 03:49 PM
This guy must have been mistreating the dog for it to turn on him, sounds like divine intervention to me. Hopefully the dog gets a good home now....tom

mine are totally mistreated, here they are attacking a new toy...

January 24, 2003, 03:49 PM
I'm going to kill my dog.
..........with a SHOTGUN...........

a. Grab shotgun.
b. Turn shotgun AROUND.
c. Whack dog with shotgun STOCK.
d. Run for telephone.

First, the guy is a whacko.
Second, that dog is probably laffin its head off.

And we STILL give strangers the finger.


January 24, 2003, 03:57 PM
Hopefully the dog gets a good home now....tomSadly, odds are the authorities will put the dog down unless the wife wants it.

January 24, 2003, 04:04 PM
I'm positive the dog did it. This tragic accident wouldn't have happened if gun manufacturers didn't negligently market the product to dogs, advertising that it is resistant to paw prints.

January 24, 2003, 04:18 PM
Let's not be too hard on the gun manfacturers, that guy was from West Virginia.:evil:

January 24, 2003, 04:30 PM
Ban dogs! ;)

Monte Harrison
January 24, 2003, 04:42 PM
Sic semper tyrannisThat's what I'M talking about!
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!

January 24, 2003, 05:03 PM
I agree that the dog did it on purpose. It was premeditated. After hearing the phone call the dog shot the guy an staged the rest. Call CSI :neener:

Justice at its pretty dang close anyhow :D

Forget a good home for the dog. He apparently hit it hard enough to break the stock of the gun. Put it out of its misery.

January 24, 2003, 05:14 PM
In legal parlance, that`s what`s known as an "OOPS"! Well, not really but this is a family board. :neener:

A gun lock would have prevented this tragedy.:evil:

January 24, 2003, 05:25 PM
West Virginia---Why am I NOT surprised?

WV is like the Yankee version of Arkansas... :D

January 24, 2003, 05:39 PM
This thread is giving me the creeps. Lately, I've been short-changing my Malamute on the doggie treats, and she knows where the 870 is kept ...

January 24, 2003, 05:46 PM
One less vote for Jerry Springer!

Baba Louie
January 24, 2003, 07:01 PM

But wait for the lawsuits to begin.

Will it be... Wrongful death?

Or... Manufacturer's negligence?

I know, the old favorite... It's the Shotgun's fault?

Maybe the ammo mfg. didn't QC the primer quite right in the shell?

Perhaps a conspiracy between the dog and the firearm?

Lawyers are standing by.

Poor dog.

Poor woman, what a day to come home from work!

What a great, yet tragic story (poor dog)


January 24, 2003, 07:38 PM
Uh Guys......
I think it was Virginia and not West Virginia. There is a difference.
One of them is.... wellll.... farther west. :D

As for the dog, I hope he was able to see the stupid look on his owners' face.
If the dog was vicious, I have no problem with using the shotgun. Only in how it was used.
Even a rabid dog deserves to be disposed of humanely. :cuss:

January 24, 2003, 08:02 PM
Justifiable self defense. Dog claims it "was afeerd fo it's life".

January 24, 2003, 08:28 PM
Proves once again that guns and careless stupidity do not mix.

He obviously didn't deserve either the gun or dog.

January 24, 2003, 08:52 PM
OJ did it!

January 24, 2003, 09:29 PM
This could be a copy CAT (pun intended) shooting, didn't a dog shoot it's owner the other day.


January 24, 2003, 09:52 PM
Jesus, the evil of some people!:what: Instead of humanely shooting an animal he wants to beat it to death?:cuss: Serves him right! Poor dog. Hope the pooch is OK.

Ol' Badger
January 24, 2003, 09:52 PM
I moved from D.C. to these pretty mountains(Winchester) to get away from crazies and wackos! Now I'm surounded by trailer trash who arent smart enough to shoot the damn dog instead of hit'n it with the Shotgun!
But from the local goosup, he's a transplanted yuppie from the suburbs around here. Oh well. One less person blocking the view of the vally!
AMF Dumba**

Ol' Badger
January 24, 2003, 10:00 PM
Some folks in W.V. take offense when you call them Yankees! They might come after you for that. But you'll see them coming if you look for the missing teeth :p

Walther P99
January 25, 2003, 12:06 AM
He got what he deserved ... I hope he was in a lot of pain until his death. :fire:

El Rojo
January 25, 2003, 12:14 AM
I don't think either of them deserved their fates. However, what happens happens. I don't think people deserve to die for beating an animal. However, if they die of their own stupidity while beating an animal, I am not going to shed any tears over it. I mean really, what can you say about this one? I am pretty much at a loss. I guess a good word to some it all up is stupid.

Mr. James
January 25, 2003, 12:31 AM
And, ladies and gentlemen,

...the winner of the 2003 Darwin Prize is...

January 25, 2003, 12:46 AM
I have no problem with killing vicious domisticated animals. The animals could attack anyone or even children. Beating an animal to death when a more humane way of killing one is a little low on the life scale.
One thing you must bare in mind though, a liberal press reported it, we only have one side. Other details may have been intentionally left out.
Just speculation, but something to consider.

January 25, 2003, 12:50 AM
A non sentient being is no different than any other piece of property. One can do what their property what they wish. It certainly doesn't warrent death.

January 25, 2003, 11:13 AM
animal cruelty is against the law everywhere in this country that I know of, had this idiot survived he should have done jail time IMO...tom

January 25, 2003, 11:16 AM
The law has nothing to do with morality or what is right. I see some animals are more equal than others.

January 25, 2003, 12:17 PM
hopefully the local DA wont file charges on the dog:D

January 25, 2003, 12:48 PM
Pesonally, I'm sick of all the twisted bastards that commit animal cruelty and get little more than a slap on the hands, like this is some kind of hobby that got out of control. I support death for anyone that beats or tortures an animal. As I said, the guy got what he deserved and serves him right. I'm supposed to feel bad for this S.O.B.s? :uhoh:

January 25, 2003, 01:49 PM
The dog was euthanized.

January 25, 2003, 06:40 PM
Poor dog. Hope he/she didn't suffer much prior to being put down. :(

January 25, 2003, 07:16 PM
A non sentient being is no different than any other piece of property. One can do what their property what they wish. It certainly doesn't warrent death.He brought death to himself. Too bad, so sad.

Perhaps he should have armed himself with some intelligence, before dealing with his property? Hmmm?

Stupid should hurt, really stupid should be fatal to the stupid. That is eminently fair since the rest of us have done nothing to warrant having to suffer the consequences of their moronic existence. It was merely the grace of God that put the shot into the imbecile, rather than an innocent bystander. Win-win! Had the shot gone astray and hit nothing of consequence, I am sure that the dead dull-wit would have created further havoc somewhere down the road.

If he wanted to be a big man and beat the dog to death, he should have done it with his bare hands.

This way, he serves as a warning to others: Always try to be smarter than the thing you are trying to outwit.:fire:

January 26, 2003, 02:34 AM
I agree the guy deserved it, but I think the wife did it then made it look like an accident. If you beat an anmial you will probably beat a human.

January 26, 2003, 04:01 AM

Why do you blame the man's wife? Your post was a little bit weird.

I agree the guy deserved it, but I think the wife did it then made it look like an accident. If you beat an anmial you will probably beat a human.

Do you have some unresolved issues with an ex?

January 26, 2003, 04:37 AM
"He got what he deserved ... I hope he was in a lot of pain until his death. "

Hmmm? A shotgun blast to the gut, thats GOT to hurt!

This is a message from dogs that they will not be mistreated any longer. They are standing up for themselves and we better watch out.

I have a feeling that my dog is probably going to get some ideas from this and start demanding to be treated with more respect. I still don't think he has fogiven me for having him fixed.

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