Jukar Philadelphia Derringer


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confederatemule
January 17, 2011, 05:18 PM
I have a Philadelphia Derringer. I gave $15.00 for it at a garage/yard sale around 27 years ago[1993/1994]. It was in a topless Styrofoam, fitted, box. I figger it came from Dixie Gun Works. It was a kit. After a few years I put it together. Now I am wanting to shoot it and I want to know all about it.
On the left forward side of the barrel is stamped: Black Powder Only; under that is: JUKAR. At the rear of the barrel [maybe it is the breech] is stamped: SPAIN [the "S" is faint. In between JUKAR and SPAIN are numbers: 112_6 [I am sure about the first 1, the 2, and the 6. I am not sure about the total of numbers, but I think there were only 5, 1 being the first and 6 being the last. It looks like someone tried to remove them.
That is all I know bout the pistol. I think it is ,45 caliber.

Thanks for any help.
Mule

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arcticap
January 17, 2011, 06:01 PM
Here's a web page that shows how to load and shoot it, plus penetration results.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu66.htm

A .440 round ball, a lubed .010 [or .015] thickness patch, some pistol fffg black powder or substitute powder and #11 percussion caps are what is needed to shoot it. It will also need to be completely cleaned after each shooting session. Other items will also be needed to measure the correct volume of powder and to remove the nipple for cleaning.

confederatemule
January 17, 2011, 06:35 PM
Thanks, Arcticap. The link to "The Box of Truth" was very informative. The other link will take some time to sypher, but I'll probably find what I am lookin for.

Can you give me any ideas about the numbers?

Thanks
Mule

arcticap
January 17, 2011, 06:57 PM
The numbers appear to just be benign serial numbers which don't even seem to correspond to the year of manufacture like the more modern made CVA rifles did.
i.e. - A dash "-XX" or such would often indicate the year of manufacture.
I hope that's not too disappointing. :)

confederatemule
January 17, 2011, 09:26 PM
It does not disappoint me, at all. I am happy as a pig stuck under a gate in the sunshine. The number does not have a dash in it, at least I can't see it. The line in my post was to symbolize a blank where a number digit should be.

Many thanks for all of the info.
Mule

GCBurner
January 17, 2011, 09:37 PM
One of those Spanish made Dixie Derringer kits was the first muzzleloader kit I ever put together. I haven't fired it off for a while, but I was using 35 grains of FFF Goex powder with a .445 round ball and a greased flannel patch. Not too accurate at more than 15-20 feet, in spite of the rifled barrel, but lots of smoke, and fun to shoot.

confederatemule
January 17, 2011, 09:55 PM
I've never fired a black powder pistol nor been around one being fired. I have four black powder pistols and I am going to shoot them all this year.

Iver Johnson, first model, top break, hammerless, .32 caliber black powder cartridge [original 1895-1896]
Philadelphia Derringer Percussion .45 caliber [Jukar reproduction]
Tower Dragoon Flintlock .69 caliber [Japan reproduction]
Remington New Army Revolver .44 caliber [Steel] [Pietta Reproduction]

I don't have the first thing to load them with. I've been doing a lot of reading and watching a lot of YouTube.

Thanks
Mule

Loosenock
January 18, 2011, 08:30 AM
They're fun little guns. I call this one a Junkar Jukar. It was an unfinished kit, parts missing. I was able to cobble it back together. Removed a bunch of wood, Deringers are supposed to be thin and sexy. Made a fun project.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/loosenock/derringer012.jpg

Have fun.

confederatemule
January 18, 2011, 09:00 AM
Loosenock, that one looks exactly like mine. Well, except for the finish. Mine has only the necessary parts to be functional, nothing extra. Just like yours.
Wow!, y'all sure are makin me want to shoot my BP pistols. Got to save some money to put together the necessary stuff to "load and shoot".

Thanks for the picture.
Mule

napp
January 18, 2011, 12:50 PM
Got to save some money to put together the necessary stuff to "load and shoot".

I've recently gone through that procedure. It's pretty simple. Just make a list of everything you think will need, set aside the money, and then double it. No need to thank me; just consider my comment as a public service. :D

confederatemule
January 18, 2011, 07:02 PM
napp, ain't that how it is with everything?

Mule

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