Eye protection and hats..


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TheProf
January 17, 2011, 10:41 PM
Nearly injured my eye today while shooting at the range. The spent ejected brass landed on my eye!

Yes... I was wearing my shatterproof eye glasses. But the brass landed from a top-down direction and the hot brass was able to get between the lens of my eyeglass and my eye lid. If my eye had not closed fast enough, the hot brass would have burnt my eye! Been shooting for a couple of years now..and on different shooting ranges. All the safety officers have said that eyeglasses were ok for eye protection.

I'm wearing a hat next time...along with my eyeglasses.

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txgunsuscg
January 17, 2011, 11:01 PM
You know, its funny, the only time I've ever had brass land in my eye I was wearing a hat. The brass bounced off the brim and lodged at the top of my frame....

On a side note, the only range I know of that makes you wear a hat for courses is US Training Center. The other ranges I've shot at are just eye/ear pro.

labhound
January 17, 2011, 11:43 PM
I always wear a hat and safety glasses over my prescription glasses.

karateclarinet
January 17, 2011, 11:48 PM
I went to the range in December to shoot the brand new Ruger .22 I bought myself as a birthday gift. I shot the first 8 rounds without any problem. On round #9, the casing ejected upward from the gun, hit the wall next to me and came down between my safety glasses and my right eye. It landed at the top of my cheek, right under my eye, and it took me a brief moment to realize what had happened. Needless to say, my mother, who is against my ownership and use of guns, had a field day griping at me for the burn under my eye when I visited her for Christmas.:banghead: I now wear a hat every time I'm at any range, regardless of whether or not I'm on the line shooting.

Mr.510
January 18, 2011, 12:01 AM
I've had hot brass between my safety glasses and eye/check three times. Once without a hat and twice with. The first time I got a small cheek burn. The other two times I recognized the problem immediately and did not get burned. Since I don't wear prescription glasses my solution was to find safety glasses (and OSHA rated sun glasses) that conform to my brow close enough that not even a .22 shell will fit through the space at the top.

brandon_mcg
January 18, 2011, 12:22 AM
hopefully a hat will solve the problem for you. that brass is hot!

bobmcd
January 18, 2011, 12:24 AM
In my case, it was not even my eye. I had a .380 casing eject straight into my forehead, leaving a crescent-shaped cut that I feared would scar. (It did not, luckily.) I have worn a baseball cap when shooting ever since, even indoors.

TNT in Round Rock
January 18, 2011, 12:31 AM
been shooting mostly with WileyX clear Talons. The top of the frame is up against my forehead, no way a shell could come down in there..

ny32182
January 18, 2011, 12:40 AM
I had a case bounce off a wall and get behind my glasses once. I ended up with a burn that scabbed for a few days on the outside of my eyelid.

I had the glasses tilted forward slightly so my earmuffs could seal better.

After that I got glasses with lower profile arms that allow me to get the glasses fitting almost right up to my face. I'm pretty sure the same 9mm would not be able to get in there now. I also wear a ballcap now except in the winter when I have started wearing a knit cap to retain heat better.

FWIW in my years of shooting I've never had an instance where anything hit the outside of the glasses even remotely hard enough to where it could have caused any injury... the closest I've ever come to an eye injury is the incident above, and it happened because of the glasses.

I'm not saying glasses in general are a bad idea, but I do now believe that poorly fitted ones can be just as much a hazard as none at all.

rondog
January 18, 2011, 01:20 AM
Yep, had a hot .45 case behind the glasses once, lotsa fun.

Davey Wavey
January 18, 2011, 01:39 AM
I learned after my first or second trip to the range to wear a hat. I started with a crummy old Bridgestone tire baseball cap. I've now upgraded to a 5.11 hat that came free with a range bag I got for Christmas. Sweet bag too.

Ejected shells land on the brim quite regularly.

Shadow 7D
January 18, 2011, 03:00 AM
nobody thinks eye pro is important until they get knocked, I had a friend get burned in the eye by a piece of hot brass from the next shooter over.

Bonesinium
January 18, 2011, 04:36 AM
You know it's funny. I don't often wear hats anymore, but without even thinking about why, I ALWAYS wear a hat when I shoot. I keep a ball cap in my range bag, and it is part of my standard attire when I shoot. I guess it was probably to help with the sun, but this certainly gives thought to another very practical reason to wear one!

postalnut25
January 18, 2011, 04:41 AM
Can't stand wearing a hat. When I had to do rifle quals in the Corps, The hat came off, and the only glasses were sunglasses if you wanted them.

Now shooting on my own, sunglasses and ear plugs are all that get used. A hat seems to get in the way more than it ever helped.

Shadow 7D
January 18, 2011, 05:27 AM
Well a beenie with a rolled rim, and it's pretty thick cause it's pretty cold (well below freezing) does that count

Smokey Joe
January 18, 2011, 12:28 PM
Shadow 7 D--Anything that covers up the gap between the top of the glasses and yr forehead or eyebrow, counts. I imagine that a knit hat would do that.

I've had hot brass go down my shirt, so always button up when on the range, but that's just an annoyance--what one really needs to protect is one's eyes! One of the ranges I go to requires eyewear--that would seem like a good idea. On that same (indoor) range, most of the shooters do not wear a hat of any type. Go figure.

But then, I had seat belts in my car, and used them regularly, before they were required even to be in the cars, let alone required to be used. I use a helmet when bicycle riding. Some things just make sense, whether or not The Man makes you do them. (FWIW, IMHO, The Man should shut up re: items of strictly personal safety, but that just ain't gonna occur.)

vikinggirl
January 18, 2011, 12:34 PM
I've been burned both on the top of my head and forehead from hot brass. The forehead still occurred while I was wearing a ball cap though. I guess you can only do so much without wearing a full face shield! My forehead burn happened from bouncing off the side glass - just the right angle to sneak between the brim and the top of my glasses.

Ouch.

average_shooter
January 18, 2011, 01:37 PM
I actually tend to pull my ballcap down to where the brim is essentially resting on my glasses lightly. That minimizes any gaps.

Also, I just ordered prescription sunglasses that fit close to my face all around, so I plan on using those for my shooting activities in the future. I do prefer the wrap-frame sunglasses these days.

kwelz
January 18, 2011, 01:47 PM
It is impossible to protect yourself from every freak occurrence. But it is good to take whatever measures you can.

I always wear a hat in the summer and a Cap or Shemagh in the winter.

I will say that with a Shemagh and glasses it is near impossible to get brass anywhere.

Onward Allusion
January 18, 2011, 01:50 PM
TheProf (http://www.thehighroad.org/member.php?u=100777)

Eye protection and hats..
Nearly injured my eye today while shooting at the range. The spent ejected brass landed on my eye!

Glad you weren't hurt. I never thought about wearing a hat for protection at the range, but it does seem to be a good idea. I mean I always wear eye and ear protection AND dust mask if indoor...

svtruth
January 18, 2011, 05:27 PM
A revolver might help.

therewolf
January 18, 2011, 05:34 PM
I was thinking of using goggles to improve my aim.(safety glasses seem to blur my focus a little)

I imagine they'll protect me from hot brass better, as well.:)

o Unforgiven o
January 18, 2011, 05:45 PM
Something about this makes me think you are all just unlucky. I have had brass land in my shirt pocket, down my shirt, I have even had one land in my hand while my palm was up due to hand gestures I was making while having a conversation behind the firing line. Never had one behind my safety glasses though.

The Lone Haranguer
January 18, 2011, 07:49 PM
A high collared shirt helps, too. ;)

NMGonzo
January 18, 2011, 07:51 PM
Nearly injured my eye today while shooting at the range. The spent ejected brass landed on my eye!


I'm wearing a hat next time...along with my eyeglasses.

Good idea ... I wear a hat for that very reason ... close the gaps.

Now ... a sombrero would be awesome.

henschman
January 18, 2011, 09:18 PM
I will wear a hat and sunglasses/shooting glasses when I'm at the range, but I usually take the glasses off to shoot, at least with a rifle.

With glasses, you end up looking through the top part of the lens, which for me is usually the part that touches your forehead and gets all grimy from sweat. Also, I've had the rim of the glasses interfere with sight picture. Not to mention that shooting glasses frequently get scratches in them, and so do not provide as clear a picture as I get without them. I also do not like sunglasses for shooting because the tint makes the front sight appear dimmer, which makes it harder to focus my eye on it while keeping it on target.

I know I could get some nicer glasses that don't scratch easily, have a wider field of view, stay off the forehead, and are not tinted; but I also believe in practicing with the rifle in the same way that I would use it if I actually have to take care of business with it. In a serious life or death situation, I would probably not put on my safety glasses. Plus if you don't have glasses, there is nothing for brass to get stuck in!

suzukisam
January 18, 2011, 09:39 PM
henschman-

I used to think just like you. I never hardly ever shot with eye wear. until I had to have a $6,000.00 surgery this november when a tiny, and I mean tiny piece or brass came off a case and went through my cornea! I never even felt it. After about three days I could tell something was wrong. I still have six stitches in my eye! I now wear them to hunt also. spend the money on quality eye wear. I could have lost an eye and over what 50.00 bucks for a top notch pair. I could have gotten a lot of good safety gear for what I spent on the surgery!

RAT807
January 18, 2011, 10:04 PM
Hot brass is not the only thing to be concerned about while shooting. I've had casings split on more than one outing at the range. The ammo was supplied by the range and must have been defective even though it was new ammo. If it were not for my safety glasses and hat, i would have injured my eyes and forehead from all of the crap that hit my face. I was knocked off the shooting line and had to restart that section of the POST test, (timed event) after i cleaned off my nose and cleared the water from my eyes. As others have said, I too have had to next shooter on the line, bounce casings off my hat, shirt and land in numerous places, none were pleasant.

JMtoolman
January 19, 2011, 12:51 AM
I was at a range with my son one time a couple of years ago. While he was shooting I sat on a chair behind him to watch. A young couple was shooting in the left lane next to me, and her husband was explaining how to safely handle and shoot a 40 cal pistol. She was rather well endowed with a real low cut neckline top on. On about the third shot, it went right down you know where. I was trying to keep a stright face and not laugh, while she was doing a dance with both hands down the front of the dress. Her husband quickly grabbed the pistol out of her hands and kept it safely pointed down range. He looked at me trying to stifle a laugh, and just shrugged his sholders. I thing that was the last shot for her that day. The Toolman.

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