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Warners
January 19, 2011, 04:47 PM
So, my 15 year old son (middle kid) and I have decided that we'd like to go boar hunting. Neither of us has hunted before, so we're definitely looking for some guidance on where to go and what to avoid. Because it's SO difficult for me to schedule just about ANYTHING with our busy "city lives", I really need to make sure I choose correctly. Or goals are to have a fun, safe, succesfull hunt and to come home with some trophy heads with good sized cutters. Simple huh? So I'm looking for suggestions from you guys to help guide people like us (rookies) in the best direction. I will likely be using my Marlin 336 in 30-30, and my son will be using a custom rifle on an Interarms Mark X action chambered for .30-06. Either one should do the job on a good sized hog. Any help or suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Oh, for the record, we are in the Chicago area....

Thanks guys,

Warner

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cottswald
January 19, 2011, 08:03 PM
Warner, if you've never been hunting, why the big leap to wild boar? Small game hunting is far less "risky" and just as enjoyable. Anyone that has hunted squirrel or rabbit will tell you there's no better way to develp/sharpen your hunting skills.

If you do decide to hunt boar, have an experienced hunter accompany you or hire a guide.

Freedom_fighter_in_IL
January 19, 2011, 09:40 PM
Well Warners, first of all, where would you like to go on this hog hunt? There are several states down south where they are very populated and have no set hunting season on them. Hunting year round on them. Unlike cottswald seems to think, hog hunting is a great start to big game hunting. They can be a very wily game animal to hunt. They have a fantastic sense of smell and great hearing as well. Eyesight is pretty pitiful so you have an advantage there. Many are on the fence about the dangers of hogs. They can be a VERY dangerous animal but if you use a bit of caution you should be just fine.

Both of your weapon choices are spot on perfect for hogs. Killed many with the venerable old thuddy thuddy and the 30.06 will be a great one for the longer shots. Have you practiced a lot with both of your weapons in FIELD condition positioning? I don't live very far from you and I do know that ranges around here are few and far between. If you plan on still hunting hogs then you need to practice "snap shots" off hand. It would also be a really good idea to practice defense shots as well in case of a wounded hog charge. That 30/30 will be your weapon of choice for that situation.

As far as where to go and what to avoid, Texas, Georgia, South Carolina, and Florida offers about the best hog hunting in the states. If size matters (trophy class), I guess it would depend on what you are willing to pay for. If you are looking for pure strain Russian boars, they don't get as big as you would think. Ferrel hogs (mixed breed wild hogs) are the ones that get really massive. Texas offers some of the biggest hogs I have seen. Granted I have taken some pretty sizable hogs in the other states I mentioned but the biggest has been in Texas. I don't hunt the fenced hogs only free ranging. Another question that you need to address is STYLE of hunting that you want. Baited, still hunt, hunting with dogs, and elevated stands over known feeding areas are just a few of the common ways. As far as things to avoid, well that is a matter of opinion on some things. Some feel that the high fence operations are the spawn of Satan while others feel that they are just fine. I am in the middle of that one. High fence operations are fine to me as long as there is a lot of acreage inside that fence. Most of your Texas operations are 1000 acres or more inside that fence and, to me anyway, that is MORE than enough to consider those animals about as free ranging as you can get. Of course how the animals are fed, treated and all that has to fall into your mind as well. Are they conditioned to certain times of the "feed truck" coming and associate that with safety or do they vary the times for the extra feed so as not to condition the animals to human presence. Just some things like that to question.

Warners
January 20, 2011, 12:21 AM
Well Warners, first of all, where would you like to go on this hog hunt? There are several states down south where they are very populated and have no set hunting season on them. Hunting year round on them. Unlike cottswald seems to think, hog hunting is a great start to big game hunting. They can be a very wily game animal to hunt. They have a fantastic sense of smell and great hearing as well. Eyesight is pretty pitiful so you have an advantage there. Many are on the fence about the dangers of hogs. They can be a VERY dangerous animal but if you use a bit of caution you should be just fine.

Both of your weapon choices are spot on perfect for hogs. Killed many with the venerable old thuddy thuddy and the 30.06 will be a great one for the longer shots. Have you practiced a lot with both of your weapons in FIELD condition positioning? I don't live very far from you and I do know that ranges around here are few and far between. If you plan on still hunting hogs then you need to practice "snap shots" off hand. It would also be a really good idea to practice defense shots as well in case of a wounded hog charge. That 30/30 will be your weapon of choice for that situation.

As far as where to go and what to avoid, Texas, Georgia, South Carolina, and Florida offers about the best hog hunting in the states. If size matters (trophy class), I guess it would depend on what you are willing to pay for. If you are looking for pure strain Russian boars, they don't get as big as you would think. Ferrel hogs (mixed breed wild hogs) are the ones that get really massive. Texas offers some of the biggest hogs I have seen. Granted I have taken some pretty sizable hogs in the other states I mentioned but the biggest has been in Texas. I don't hunt the fenced hogs only free ranging. Another question that you need to address is STYLE of hunting that you want. Baited, still hunt, hunting with dogs, and elevated stands over known feeding areas are just a few of the common ways. As far as things to avoid, well that is a matter of opinion on some things. Some feel that the high fence operations are the spawn of Satan while others feel that they are just fine. I am in the middle of that one. High fence operations are fine to me as long as there is a lot of acreage inside that fence. Most of your Texas operations are 1000 acres or more inside that fence and, to me anyway, that is MORE than enough to consider those animals about as free ranging as you can get. Of course how the animals are fed, treated and all that has to fall into your mind as well. Are they conditioned to certain times of the "feed truck" coming and associate that with safety or do they vary the times for the extra feed so as not to condition the animals to human presence. Just some things like that to question.
Thanks for the informative reply, Freedom Fighter. I have done some homework on the states most heavily populated, and Texas is right up there, so that's on my list. As much as I love dogs, and actually owned an American Bulldog whose father was a boar hunter (catch dog) in Florida, I don't think that really suits the style of hunt that I am looking for.

When I imagine this hunt, we are stalking the hogs in the woods. How realistic that is, I have no real idea. It seems like the greatest chances for success would be to be in a stand over a feeder. I have mixed emotions about how "sporting" that is, but I suppose I could live with getting one that way. I know there's a place in Michigan that has the "raging Russians" or whatever.......but man does that ever feel like a walk up and shoot one behind a fence type of situation to me. Maybe not....it just feels that way to me. I'd like to feel there was SOME challenge in it, but at the same time I'd want to be successfull, too. I realize that I have some conflicting ideas.

What I'm looking for, in part at least, is some recommendations for some guided hunts that people have had good experiences with.


Thanks in advance,

Warner

Freedom_fighter_in_IL
January 20, 2011, 12:49 AM
Hogs getting loose from a couple of those Michigan fenced operations is why Michigan is starting to have a small hog problem. They have enacted the "shoot on sight" as long as you have a hunting license of some sort. Still no baiting of them as of yet because of the CWD among the deer and other big game animals. As far as I know, the only guided hunts for hogs are in the southern states (that isn't fenced Russians). Some are for as low as 250 per day with no "trophy fees" and no limits to hogs and others are as much as 500 per day and one hog per hunter with "trophy fees". Have to shop around on that one. Never used one myself but I have hunting buddies all over the country that have access to property where the landowners are MORE than happy to let us come take as many of the hogs off their property that we can shoot. Farmers don't like them as I am sure you are well aware of.

I'll make a couple of calls tomorrow and see if I can scare up some information on any operations close by but any of them up here will most likely be a small fenced operation and I don't think that is what you would really want.

Warners
January 20, 2011, 09:17 AM
Hogs getting loose from a couple of those Michigan fenced operations is why Michigan is starting to have a small hog problem. They have enacted the "shoot on sight" as long as you have a hunting license of some sort. Still no baiting of them as of yet because of the CWD among the deer and other big game animals. As far as I know, the only guided hunts for hogs are in the southern states (that isn't fenced Russians). Some are for as low as 250 per day with no "trophy fees" and no limits to hogs and others are as much as 500 per day and one hog per hunter with "trophy fees". Have to shop around on that one. Never used one myself but I have hunting buddies all over the country that have access to property where the landowners are MORE than happy to let us come take as many of the hogs off their property that we can shoot. Farmers don't like them as I am sure you are well aware of.

I'll make a couple of calls tomorrow and see if I can scare up some information on any operations close by but any of them up here will most likely be a small fenced operation and I don't think that is what you would really want.
Freedom Fighter, I appreciate any help or information you could provide. Thanks much!

Warner

Freedom_fighter_in_IL
January 20, 2011, 01:37 PM
Warners, how does South East Oklahoma sound? Too far or not? If that is acceptable, there is a fella that runs a guide service for free ranging hogs and has been quite successful in taking hogs this year. If interested I will get in touch with him and see if his prices are still the same as they were a couple of years ago. I know he is extremely reasonable on his rates. His prices do not include lodging and stuff. Just the guiding services. Let me know as soon as you get this and Ill pursue the information.

Warners
January 20, 2011, 01:41 PM
Warners, how does South East Oklahoma sound? Too far or not? If that is acceptable, there is a fella that runs a guide service for free ranging hogs and has been quite successful in taking hogs this year. If interested I will get in touch with him and see if his prices are still the same as they were a couple of years ago. I know he is extremely reasonable on his rates. His prices do not include lodging and stuff. Just the guiding services. Let me know as soon as you get this and Ill pursue the information.
I'd like to get the information. Having said that, this is something that will involve a lot of planning for me.....with all the schedules I have in my household. I also have another guy from work who's interested....so there would be 3 of us. He has heard and was talking about Texas. He goes fishing there every year, but like myself and my son, has never been hog hunting. I'm not real partial to any particular state....just looking for a good experience and a successful hunt.

Thanks,

Warner

Freedom_fighter_in_IL
January 20, 2011, 02:45 PM
Pm's sent with the info you need Warners. Let me know how things work out. Good luck and stay safe.

pat86323
January 20, 2011, 06:24 PM
Nothin wrong with hog hunting for a beginner though ive never done it, though i do agree with the small game suggestion. Shooting birds, rabbits, squirrels, coyotes ect ect is a great way to hone your skill, not to mention that you can figure out if its even something you want to do (hunting isnt for everyone) after the shot it is alot of work and is very messy. Cleaning a rabbit will give you a feel for whether or not you even want to tackle a hog.

Flintknapper
January 20, 2011, 07:01 PM
Although I wouldn't recommend Feral Hogs as a first hunt, if you have your hearts set on it, this small ranch has been gaining popularity and I've heard good things about it.

http://www.texaswildhoghunting.com/

Be careful guys, have fun and take pics.


Flint.

jbkebert
January 30, 2011, 10:51 AM
http://155.212.11.42/ http://www.sweetwatercreekbowhunt.com/

I have hunted both of these places both offer some gun hunts. Sweetwater creeks rifle side is called 9 bar ranch but i could not find the link. The folks that run these places are top notch good folks to be around. I want to say the hunts are around $375 per person for a 2 day hunt.

Warners
January 30, 2011, 11:44 AM
Thanks guys. I think we are going to Langley Ranch (Flintknapper's link above) in mid to late July (the only time of year one of my kids isn't in some sport or sports camp!). I spoke with Sue at the Ranch and they DO have availability in July, and that is the FIRST availablity they have. So that's what it's going to be. The son that's going with me just won his conference wrestling tournament and wants to go to a wrestling camp and it looks like the good ones are in early July. I know it will be hot, but that's the time I have so that's when we'll go.


Thanks again,

Warner

joshk-k
January 30, 2011, 08:40 PM
Yeah it's going to be hot as sin! I like how on that ranch's website they describe the hogs as "Native Wild Hogs." They're not really native anywhere in North America, right?

I hope you and your boy have a great time! Congrats on his wrestling win!

Josh

Warners
January 31, 2011, 09:36 AM
Thanks Josh......

Warner

Warners
February 7, 2011, 08:40 PM
Here's a photo of the guns we'll use. The top one is an Interarms Mark X action chambered for 30.06 in a laminated thumbhole stock with a Sightron SII 3-9x42 scope and Harris bipod. The bottom gun is obviously a Marlin 336c chambered for 30-30 (.30wcf) with a new Redfield Revolution 2-7x33 scope on it. I think these with both get the job done....

http://www.glassclubs.com/hogguns2.jpg


Warner

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