Mossberg Chainsaw....I hope Dave M. is sitting down...


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Geneseo1911
January 19, 2011, 11:36 PM
Just when you thought a PGO was worthless enough, Mossberg has upped the ante:

Mossberg Chainsaw Shotgun-TheFirearmBlog (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/01/19/mossberg-chainsaw-pump-shotgun/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheFirearmBlog+%28The+Firearm+Blog%29&utm_content=Google+Reader)

Envision a Mossberg Cruiser with a thing that goes up horizontal, perpendicular to bore axis, above barrel fore-end :eek: And a Laser!;)

I mean, really? The .50 cal style brake wasn't silly enough?

Again, I know not every gun has to be useful, but this seems borderline childish, if not downright dangerous.

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country boy marksman
January 19, 2011, 11:41 PM
bringing zombie slaying into the new decade!

Flipper56
January 20, 2011, 02:06 AM
What the heck is that supposed to be? purpose?

Girodin
January 20, 2011, 02:23 AM
Mossberg seems to recognize that there is a certain segment of the firearms buying market that doesn't seem to have the slightest concern for true practicality but goes for gimmicks, looks, and what (to them at least) is cool. They are in the business of making money and sometimes what makes money is appealing to that crowd (see Taraus Judge).

Mossberg also makes some very practical and solid performers for those looking for something else.

Finally the antis really have something to say is designed to allow one to spray from the hip (note: they still need to formulate a coherent argument that doing so actually makes a gun more dangerous/effect rather than less so).

For the record I wont be buying one if its released, and after the insane muzzle brake shotguns with PGO there is no reason to doubt this might be.

Bonesinium
January 20, 2011, 03:52 AM
A large portion of firearms owned have little purpose besides recreation. I'm sure there are people out there who would like this and will buy it, for no other purpose then entertainment. I certainly see no reason for this, but somebody probably does.

epijunkie67
January 20, 2011, 06:30 AM
Cold steel has an entire line of fully functional swords. All sizes and periods. How many people you see fighting with swords these days? These things costs several hundered dollars each and will NEVER get used for anything other than decoration and "Look at this cool sword".

But people buy them. And I'm fine with that.

I personally don't care if someone makes a gun you strap to your forehead that fires when you fart on command. As long as it's legal and they use it safely then I say sell all you want.

Heck, there are millions of regular guns that spend their entire life sitting in a safe never have had more than 100 rounds put them, ever. A couple of crazy looking shelf sitters really isn't that much different.

BlayGlock
January 20, 2011, 07:55 AM
Dang. I was envisioning a Gears of War-esque shotgun with a chainsaw mounted on the underside.

EmGeeGeorge
January 20, 2011, 08:20 AM
armored car work?

HardKnox
January 20, 2011, 08:29 AM
I'm with Blayglock, I have NEVER been more disappointed in a thread than this one!!

Can someone please make a rail mounted chainsaw already, i mean how does a chainsaw handle on the pump do anything at all? and they have the audacity to call it the mossberg chainsaw?? my foot!!

JohnBT
January 20, 2011, 08:33 AM
It's for people who've lost a hand and use a hook.

Well it could be.

So there. Film at 11.

John

Guns and more
January 20, 2011, 08:35 AM
Now, that's funny.

45Fan
January 20, 2011, 08:40 AM
Cold steel has an entire line of fully functional swords. All sizes and periods. How many people you see fighting with swords these days? These things costs several hundered dollars each and will NEVER get used for anything other than decoration and "Look at this cool sword".

I wouldnt be too fast in saying that, I dont remember specifics, but a while back I remember hearing about a college kid that almost cut an intruder in half with his samuri sword.

I doubt I would ever own one, PGO shotguns arent my favorite thing in the world, and to put a grip on the front would make it impossible to put it in a scabbord, about the only part of PGOs that I do like. But I am sure that someone out there will just eat this up.

wendelb
January 20, 2011, 08:41 AM
I agree that some things are useless.... but that's not really that "out there"... it's just a handle. Bayonets for handguns are weirder than that, and those are getting popular. I got excited thinking that mossy actually made a chainsaw attachment. That would've been hilariously awesome.

Birdmang
January 20, 2011, 09:25 AM
This forum needs a new rule: When you talk about something new/crazy/awesome, pictures need to be posted with it!


http://mjm.luckygunner.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Chainsaw.jpg

Klusterbuck
January 20, 2011, 09:38 AM
LOL at epijunkie67

I can see it now in a Mel Brooks type movie...... bunch of guys sitting around eating beans with these "forehead mounted fart guns" strapped on..........

Sam1911
January 20, 2011, 09:58 AM
I do believe that somewhere there is an ENORMOUS pile of shotgun pistol grips in a warehouse that simply MUST be sold. The owner of that pile of worthless merchandise must be paying off someone at Mossberg to make things like the Rolling Thunder, Roadblocker, and THIS laughable sci-fi movie prop in order to make PGOs seem useful, heck even REASONABLE, by comparison, so he can sucker more folks into buying his product.

Used to be a PGO was the dumbest thing on the market. Nowadays... oh, no, there's WAAAY stupider stuff than that! :rolleyes:

W.E.G.
January 20, 2011, 10:02 AM
What the heck is that supposed to be? purpose?


Its "the thing that goes up."

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/CarolynMcCarthy.jpg

Deus Machina
January 20, 2011, 10:07 AM
Just being the devil's advocate here...

The laser would make it aimable (kind of), and the chainsaw grip would control recoil better than the usual grip you can manage on those, if you absolutely demand to shoot from the hip.

I could see a few making their way into the back of armored cars or something, as an absolute last resort.

I'm still of the of opinion that a folding stock would be a better option. Then again, I'm looking forward to the movie when they hand this to Terry Crews!

raz-0
January 20, 2011, 10:54 AM
Its "the thing that goes up."

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/CarolynMcCarthy.jpg

bravo.

Jon_Snow
January 20, 2011, 02:44 PM
Can someone please make a rail mounted chainsaw already

Done.

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2008/12/chainsaw-bayonet.jpg

brandon_mcg
January 20, 2011, 03:10 PM
what a joke.

StogieC
January 20, 2011, 03:43 PM
Coming to a theater near you soon. Hollywood is going to love this one.

Don't let the Brady bunch see it. They will call it a pump action "assault shotgun".

Boba Debt
January 20, 2011, 06:15 PM
I thought this was silly at first but then I watched some of the vids on it.

Apparently they created this for the sole purpose of breaching doors.

According to the Mossy rep you can control the gun better.

Carter
January 20, 2011, 07:40 PM
Cold steel has an entire line of fully functional swords. All sizes and periods. How many people you see fighting with swords these days? These things costs several hundered dollars each and will NEVER get used for anything other than decoration and "Look at this cool sword".


And my cold steel sword looks very nice on my wall. I wouldn't put it in the same category as this shotgun though. I used to collect blades, but then I found firearms. A sword can be a collectors item, and one that is actually made from high quality materials is a plus.

That shotgun on the other hand is in a whole different category.

Cosmoline
January 20, 2011, 08:12 PM
Well hip shooting is about the only way to shoot a PGO, so there's *some* logic to it.

Guns and more
January 21, 2011, 04:35 AM
It sure makes the gun case lumpy.

lobo9er
January 21, 2011, 07:59 AM
We could always trade chuck schumer, maybe make a "chainsaw grips" illegal in ny and in return we can have are "evil" flash suppressors, adjustable collapsing stocks and 30 round mags back.

Sam1911
January 21, 2011, 08:04 AM
Well hip shooting is about the only way to shoot a PGO, so there's *some* logic to it.The *RIGHT* way to shoot a PGO shotgun (if such must be done for some obscure reason) involves tucking the strong hand and butt up against your pectoral muscle and using body index to point shoot.

While some folks would still call that shooting "from the hip" the gun isn't actually anywhere near down by your hips.

With the gun that high, this device would make your support-hand hold almost more of a detriment than a help.

The only thing this device can do is remove the last shreds of practical usefulness a PGO might have.

...

:rolleyes: But gee, it sure may make it easier to handle once you've got that BAYONET mounted!!1!1! :rolleyes: Then the whole weed-wacker grip makes more sense, especially if you really will use it to clear brush.

...

Of course, we all may understand that 75% of gun gear marketing is designed to appeal to the video-game/action movie fan crowd, but this seems to take things to a whole 'nother level. Like designing a gun/accessory in the hope that it will be so radicool that the next big movie/game will be written around it -- thus creating it's own consumer demand. But maybe this time it will backfire. As this guy proves: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/01/19/mossberg-chainsaw-pump-shotgun/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheFirearmBlog+%28The+Firearm+Blog%29&utm_content=Google+Reader -- NOBODY looks "KEWL" shooting this thing.

ultradoc
January 21, 2011, 08:11 AM
well now that is differant.

Carl N. Brown
January 21, 2011, 08:16 AM
OK, was it really designed for LE door breaching applications....

or some scifi or zombie movie?

(The handle does put you about on the pointing/aiming level of the typical doorlock.)

Sam1911
January 21, 2011, 08:34 AM
OK, was it really designed for LE door breaching applications....


Nope. If you watch a trained breecher working, they point the gun at a sharp angle down through the lock mechanism so the shot takes out the works and heads toward the floor on the other side so it doesn't endanger anyone on the other side of the door.

This would be worse than useless for that task.

All they're going for here is a firing stance similar to the Space-Marines' big guns in Aliens. Pure sci-fi drivel.

It really is embarrassing to see the firearms world even entertain such pointless, ridiculous things. When we need to be showing the world how reasonable and responsible we are, this product is a detriment.

Guns and more
January 21, 2011, 11:56 AM
If you have ever used a chainsaw (the real one) you will understand that your strong hand holds the "pistol grip" and your weak hand holds the "bar". The purpose of the bar is to apply a brake on the blade if you hit a knot and the saw jumps back at you. On
a shotgun, that makes no sense.
Not for me, but if you want one,,,,,,,,,,have at it.

mljdeckard
January 21, 2011, 12:04 PM
Someone posted a link in here once to a youtube clip of a guy who had stripped down an electrical chainsaw and strapped it to the bayonet lug of a rifle and was tearing through a door with it.

You knew SOMEONE would do it.

Cosmoline
January 21, 2011, 06:04 PM
The *RIGHT* way to shoot a PGO shotgun (if such must be done for some obscure reason) involves tucking the strong hand and butt up against your pectoral muscle and using body index to point shoot.

Like this? I've never actually shot a shotgun in PGO setup (other than a 20 ga Italian kneecapper), but it's good to know.

http://frankbaumer.com/Heartland%20Pictures/More_Pics/Ayoob/Ayoob_PGO_Shotgun_Chest_Level.jpg

Sam1911
January 21, 2011, 06:08 PM
Heee heee! Yes, indeed! :)


... Now, rotate that support hand up on top grasping this new "D" handle and try to imagine doing something useful with that PGO-stick.

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