Taurus CT G2 Carbine


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Ben86
January 24, 2011, 11:27 AM
Is anyone looking forward to the new Taurus carbine? If they are priced around $500 it looks like a sweet deal to me. I like how it resembles the UMP-45. I don't know why they went so low cap for the .40 and .45 though.

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/img_5040-tm-tfb.jpg

Some brief reviews:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/01/19/taurus-carbine/

http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=6035&cpage=1

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zhyla
January 24, 2011, 12:00 PM
More info is needed. I imagine the .45 uses 1911 magazines - only a guess, but single stack mags would explain the advertised capacity for .45.

It seems kind of bulky. The info I've seen, which may not be reliable, sounds like it's on the heavy side as well. I like the idea of Taurus making a cheap carbine that takes pistol mags (hopefully PT92 mags, I've got a ton), but the only way I could justify one is if it suits the wife, and she doesn't need another big long gun in the house.

Ben86
January 24, 2011, 02:54 PM
8-9 pounds does sound a bit heavy for a pistol caliber carbine. But, I really want one and the hi-point is just too fugly for me, the kel-tec sub 2000s aren't much better, and I'd take one, but they are hard to get.

One reason I'd like a 9mm carbine is that I think it would be less concussive if shooting inside the house, as compared to my 5.56 AR.

zhyla
January 24, 2011, 04:12 PM
One reason I'd like a 9mm carbine is that I think it would be less concussive if shooting inside the house, as compared to my 5.56 AR.

How many rounds have you fired in your house? It's fine to want one of these but let's not make stuff up to justify the purchase.

Girodin
January 24, 2011, 04:28 PM
8-9+ lbs for a pistol caliber carbine :scrutiny:

That is pretty obese. By way of comparison:

A Sub 2000 weighs 4 lbs.

A Beretta Storm weighs 5.75 lbs

An AR carbine weighs around 7.

A high point is 6-7 lbs depending on caliber

A FAL weighs 8.75 lbs

I'm not going to lie if that things is truly 9+ lbs that is silly and a real turn off. Perhaps it is a typo, I'd like to think it must be.

The 10 + 1 capacity of the 45 is downer too but it is probably to match pistol mags with something already in existence.

As far as PCC go I like the sub 2K. Small, light, cheap, reasonably accurate, and reliable (in my experience with them). Plus it folds in half and can fit in a lap top size case; that's just cool.

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Boomie
January 24, 2011, 04:50 PM
My Sterling is all metal and weighs in at about 6 pounds. I have no idea why this thing, with a polymer lower, would weigh that much more.

JShirley
January 24, 2011, 04:59 PM
The carbines feel solid. They are indeed very heavy for PCCs. The selector switch forces you to "break" your firing grip to move on or off safe.

zhyla
January 24, 2011, 05:35 PM
The carbines feel solid. They are indeed very heavy for PCCs. The selector switch forces you to "break" your firing grip to move on or off safe.

The pic I saw looked like it had an MP5-style selector switch. It's not reachable with your thumb? I guess it doesn't matter that much since it's not a select fire weapon.

Any idea why they're so heavy?

emtpacker
January 24, 2011, 11:51 PM
is taurus planning on upping the caliber to intermediate rifle rounds? the magazine well looks so absurdly large for pistol calibers. I wonder if this isn't the first step in setting up a taurus 'tactical' carbine. if it were offered in 5.56 and ran off of ar mags, I would be more interested.

as is, though, it looks nice, but seems to carry too much weight and price for pistol calibers only.

JShirley
January 25, 2011, 12:34 AM
zhyla, it's not reachable while maintaining a firing grip.

I have no idea why they're so heavy.

Ben86
January 25, 2011, 07:45 AM
They are indeed very heavy for PCCs.

What's PCCs?

How many rounds have you fired in your house? It's fine to want one of these but let's not make stuff up to justify the purchase.

It's hardly making stuff up that my AR would be much louder inside a house. I have fired a pistol indoors without hearing protection and it is absolutely deafening, I'd like to not do that again. I can surmise that firing my AR, which is much louder, would be way worse. Man I wish silencers were easier, and cheaper to get.

bigfatdave
January 25, 2011, 07:53 AM
What's PCCs?
Pistol
Caliber
Carbine

One reason I'd like a 9mm carbine is that I think it would be less concussive if shooting inside the house, as compared to my 5.56 AR.I think it might be, it is surely less concussive than a 9mm handgun, but I think a lot of that reduction is because the blast starts further away from you, which is a wash between an AR or PCC.

The solution isn't to argue here, it is to try blasting indoors with each. I could compare a mini-14 in 5.56 to a SUB2000 in 9mm ... my indoor range has a door that points to the outdoor range's backstop, so I'd just have to clear both ranges out for 5 minutes (indoor range backstop can't handle centerfire rifles, in theory)

The Taurus is an interesting concept, but I like the compromises my SUB2000 is made of better. Folding counts for a lot, as does taking Block handgun mags, which are cheap, big, and plentiful. On the other hand, in .45 it would be nice to have a carbine eating from 1911 mags (particularly if it could take Officer's Size, so long as I'm dreaming)

Blakk
February 2, 2011, 12:50 AM
I've read on other blogs/forums the weight advertised is actually a misprint, and it weighs more around the 6-7 lb range unloaded. Whatever the case, it looks like a dandy little rifle, and I'm looking forward to checking these out when they become available. It will compliment my 9mm Beretta Storm nicely. =)
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