Accurate 147g 9mm Velocity


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DoubleSawbuck
January 25, 2011, 12:10 PM
I's still fairly new with reloading and wanted to get some opinions from others who have been at this for a while. I am shooting at 50ft at an indoor range that only allows lead bullets. I have some 147gr bullets coming from Missouri Bullet Co. and some WSF and W231 on hand. Hodgdon's site doesn't have any loads for 147gr cast and W231 and neither does my Lyman 49th but an older (2000) 9mm Loadbook form Loadbook USA has both. According to that Loadbook WSF@ a starting load of 3.7 has 905ft/s velocity and W231 at a starting load of 3.3 has 865ft/s velocity. What is usually more accurate at this distance, higher or lower velocity? They will be shot out of a SAXD9 4" barrel. Also the load for the W231 at this bullet weight has little wiggle room, 3.3min to 3.5max. I guess that would be due to the lack of room in a 9mm case. Thanks

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Steve C
January 25, 2011, 02:29 PM
The only way your can tell about accuracy is to shoot it at paper. Since any 147gr load should be sub sonic there is no issue of the bullet crossing the sound barrier down range.

Velocity isn't likely to be an issue in accuracy but how well the bullet and barrel rifling matches.

jr_watkins
January 25, 2011, 02:45 PM
I haven't used the 147gr bullets, but I will tell you that I have had absolutely no luck with lead bullets and 9mm at all. Lead and 38 special/44 special/44mag work great, but the 9mm lead bullet load has alluded me.

I do notice that HP38 (exact same powder as W231 I believe) is not called out for the heavier bullets on the Hodgdon website, only for the 115gr and 124gr. There is usually a good reason for this, so something is negative with that combination.

I did have great success with Rainier bullets, which are basically lead with a spray of copper on the outside. OK, more complicated than that, but you can easily scrape off the thin layer of copper from the bullet with a knife. I bring this up as the shooting range may allow these types of bullets as well and, in my experience, they load easier and shoot better than lead for about the same price.

Good luck!

fecmech
January 25, 2011, 09:22 PM
I had very good luck with 4.0/WSF and the 147 gr. Kead lead bullet out of my Browning Hipower. Velocity was 989 fps and the load averaged about 2.5"@25 yds. WW White Box 147 HP's averaged 1017 fps out of the same gun. Hope this helps.

DoubleSawbuck
January 25, 2011, 09:57 PM
Thanks, I'll play around with some loads once I get the bullets and post how they turn out. I don't have a chrono but I'll use some sand bags and try for the best grouping.

TH3180
February 20, 2011, 11:07 PM
It's been a month, I'm wondering how it all came out for you?

DoubleSawbuck
February 21, 2011, 06:38 PM
TH3180,
I like these 147g MBC bullets, nice soft shooters, no leading. I don't have a chrono so I can't tell you the velocity of the loads but I like 3.4gW231 @ OAL 1.16" and 3.8gWSF @ OAL 1.16". The WSF is a bit snappier and has been more accurate for me.

TH3180
February 21, 2011, 07:39 PM
TH3180,
I like these 147g MBC bullets, nice soft shooters, no leading. I don't have a chrono so I can't tell you the velocity of the loads but I like 3.4gW231 @ OAL 1.16" and 3.8gWSF @ OAL 1.16". The WSF is a bit snappier and has been more accurate for me.
Thanks for the update. I am playing with 147g bullets and I am hoping to start shooting lead once I get my new gun.

FROGO207
February 22, 2011, 12:28 AM
I am getting a box of their 124 GR ones and I am going to try them in my P89 DC for starters and see how they pan out.

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