Obama team to evaluate new gun control...


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Balrog
January 26, 2011, 12:42 PM
Here is an article from USA Today, which indicates Obama is trying to figure out what new gun control legislation to push for. Folks, you better be writing your Congressmen and Senators, a battle is about to begin.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/01/obama-team-to-evaluate-new-gun-control-proposals/1

Also disturbing is the fact that Dick Cheney did a TV interview this weekend and suggested that magazine bans should be considered. Maybe there is going to be a bipartisan push for new legislation because of the recent shootings.

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HoosierQ
January 26, 2011, 12:47 PM
By all means write your congressmen. But don't panic. This will die down. Gun Control is a non-starter to this day because no party is interested in moving forward. Individuals like Bloomberg yes...parties, no.

oneounceload
January 26, 2011, 12:51 PM
Write encouraging them to instill new criminal-control laws (like NO early release)

Yo Mama
January 26, 2011, 12:53 PM
By all means write your congressmen.

Unfortunately they don't matter anymore. The NRA has been discussing this in depth for the last few month. The President can utalize Government agencies such as BATF, AFT, and the EPA to step around Congress.

TexasRifleman
January 26, 2011, 12:57 PM
The President can utalize Government agencies such as BATF, AFT, and the EPA to step around Congress.

That's why ATF is considering doing away with the CLEO signoff for machine guns right?

Leave the tin foil at the door for now. Let's talk about real issues and real legal proposals or let's not talk about it at all.

Right now there are no laws proposed and the new Speaker of the House says that the couple that came up after Tucson would not make it out of committee.

Right now THAT is where we stand. Everything else is rumor.

230therapy
January 26, 2011, 01:03 PM
The President can utalize Government agencies such as BATF, AFT, and the EPA to step around Congress.

No, he cannot.

Congress writes the statutes and delegates to an agency to write the regulations. The regulations may NOT exceed the statute they're fleshing out. If a regulation exceeds a statute, then it is null and void.

Bubba613
January 26, 2011, 01:29 PM
Congress writes the statutes and delegates to an agency to write the regulations. The regulations may NOT exceed the statute they're fleshing out. If a regulation exceeds a statute, then it is null and void.

You can tell that to the FTC which instituted "net neutrality" after a Federal court expressly said such a move exceeded their powers.

But I am with TXRifleman: the current state is such that more restrictive gun control simply won't happen. However, using BATFE they could "enforce" and "interpret" regulations in such a way as to make everyone's life miserable.

230therapy
January 26, 2011, 01:44 PM
You can tell that to the FTC which instituted "net neutrality" after a Federal court expressly said such a move exceeded their powers.

Once the court said that it exceeded their powers, any challenge will win. It's just a matter of money and legal time at that point. Ultimately, it is up to us to ignore such laws.

This also shows why we must have an active militia system in this country. When Pelosi said "Constitution? You've got to be kidding." after pushing through ObamaCare, it just shows that they have no fear of the American people. They feel secure in brazenly flaunting the Constitution.

But I am with TXRifleman: the current state is such that more restrictive gun control simply won't happen. However, using BATFE they could "enforce" and "interpret" regulations in such a way as to make everyone's life miserable.


As I said, they do not fear us.

Old Shooter
January 26, 2011, 01:45 PM
Congress writes the statutes and delegates to an agency to write the regulations. The regulations may NOT exceed the statute they're fleshing out. If a regulation exceeds a statute, then it is null and void.

Tell that to the food and drug administration and the TSA for starters. They do it at their leisure, you undo it at your expense.

230therapy
January 26, 2011, 01:48 PM
Tell that to the food and drug administration and the TSA for starters. They do it at their leisure, you undo it at your expense.

TSA: The buyer signs a contract when they buy the ticket. It's quite shady since the company is forcing the buyer into a contract with a government entity. I'd be very surprised if the companies were not given incentives to do so.

I am not sure about the FDA. It could be like the EPA, which SCOTUS ruled as extra-Constitutional. Anyone outside the Federal government following their regulations doesn't understand the EPA regs don't apply to them.

rajb123
January 26, 2011, 01:50 PM
I assume the expired Clinton/Brady law be resurected and it will once again ban so-called assault weapons, big clips and so-called cop-killer bullets.

The anit's will be persistent and will push this through Congress.

There is really nothing new here. Chris Mathues the super liberal from MSNBC is reporting that Obama will have a separate gun control speech to the nation.

230therapy
January 26, 2011, 01:56 PM
I think politically we're covered. Nothing will move forward, like other people have said earlier in the thread.

If it does pass, then we have work to do.

CoRoMo
January 26, 2011, 02:38 PM
If it does pass, then we have work to do.
I prefer preemptive action. I don't want to wait for something to pass, to THEN get to work. I'll send my letter off now. This way, my representatives know how their constituents feel before they are put in a position to vote.

Art Eatman
January 26, 2011, 02:51 PM
I don't see anything to discuss as far as an actually proposed law. The important thing is to D-O do something, beginning with letters. Preferably one-page snail-mail, politely written. Those are the most effective. As with advertising, one snail-mail equates to the opinion of 300 or more people.

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