lesson #1,147: I canít buy a handgun if I am out of state!


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heavyshooter
January 26, 2011, 04:55 PM
So I'm in Little Rock, AR on business and I just happen to drive by a store called "Don's Weaponry and the Shooters Gallery Gun Store". I had an hour to kill so I whipped into the parking lot to check it out. It's a pretty good store. It was not a sportsman's mega-mall (e.g. Cabellas or Bass Pro Shop), but it was a step above your everyday mom and pop store. Good inventory and diverse supplies are complimented by a knowledgeable and cordial staff. And of course they had the obligatory shooting range. I was impressed, and then I learned something.

I came upon a gun case in the back of the store that had about 25 blued revolvers in it. They were primarily older S&W's (e.g. model 10's and 15's) and some Ruger GP100’s (3 and 4 inches). Most, but not all, of the Smiths looked like they had been ridden hard and put away wet. Many of them had lost half of their bluing. But the Rugers were about 85% and the shop staffer said that the Rugers had hardly been used. Apparently some local security company has switched over to semi-autos and put all of their revolvers on consignment. Normally, the condition of the Smiths would have made me ignore the case, but the Rugers made me give it a second look. I discovered that some of the Smiths were actually redeemable and worth consideration. (I’m a Ruger guy, but I do like older S&W’s.)

They ranged from $199.99 - $229.99!!! Because of this I picked out a Smith (Model 10) that appeared to be about 70% (a Flitz treatment would resurrect the gun) and a Ruger GP100 that was 85%. My 2 gun total, before tax, would have been $400.00!!! The Ruger alone was probably worth close to $300.00 so I was content with this deal. I have been looking for a Model 10 and a 3” GP100 for a while; SCORE! I asked for the background check and handed my driver’s license to the gentleman behind the counter and that’s when I learned lesson #1,147: I can’t buy a handgun in Arkansas because I am a resident of Colorado. This would not annoy me so much if he had not proceeded to teach me lesson #1,148: I CAN buy a rifle, but not a revolver! I am sure that someone has logically justified this decision, but their brilliance is beyond mine.

Oh well, lessons learned. Thanks for allowing me to vent.

Heavy

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ObsidianOne
January 26, 2011, 05:08 PM
Yeah, I learned that recently too. Was looking at guns at a huge gun shop in Las Vegas, and I'm an AZ resident. Thankfully I wasn't in the market for buying, just browsing.

oneounceload
January 26, 2011, 05:11 PM
You CAN buy the gun, he just can't transfer it to you at his location. If you have your FFL's signed copy with you, he can take your money and ship it to your FFL who will transfer it to you when you get home

heavyshooter
January 26, 2011, 05:30 PM
You CAN buy the gun, he just can't transfer it to you at his location. If you have your FFL's signed copy with you, he can take your money and ship it to your FFL who will transfer it to you when you get home

lesson #1,149

hnk45acp
January 26, 2011, 05:40 PM
I'm surprised he didn't tell you or offer to ship it to your local FFL

dirtykid
January 26, 2011, 05:40 PM
good lesson,, thanks for the head's up,,, i was drooling over a S&W .357 when i was on vacation in AZ in a pawn shop,,i asked owner if i could buy it even though im from MN,and mentioned i do have a permit to carry/purchase handguns in my own state ,, he said my money's just as green as the next guy's,,, (wonder how that transaction would have ended ?) Does anybody know if the states that"recognize' another states permit-to-carry also allow purchase within their state ??

kingpin008
January 26, 2011, 05:47 PM
Dirtykid - As mentioned above, you can buy all you want - you just can't take possession unless it's from an FFL, back in your home state. So he would have sold it to you, then shipped it to a FFL of your choice back home where you would fill out the paperwork and take it home. CCW permits have no bearing on this procedure.

Sam1911
January 26, 2011, 05:47 PM
Does anybody know if the states that"recognize' another states permit-to-carry also allow purchase within their state ??

No, carry permits don't have a thing to do with it.

The federal Gun Control Act of 1968 made it a federal felony for anyone to buy a handgun outside of their own state.

It did allow for residents of one state to purchase rifles or shotguns from dealers in contiguous states, and the FOPA of 1986 changed that to get rid of the contiguous states requirement. So, you can purchase a rifle or shotgun in any state (as long as the laws of that state and your state are all followed), but a handgun must be transferred to you at a dealer in your home state.

CoRoMo
January 26, 2011, 05:52 PM
I'm surprised he didn't tell you or offer to ship it to your local FFL
The dealer could have taken the money and told heavy that... "Okay, I'll ship this right out when I get the info on the FFL in your state. All sales are final. Thanks for the business!!" :eek:

I learned this years ago. Even if you live right near the state line, and the nearest gun dealer to you is in the neighboring state, it doesn't matter, gun laws are still stupid.

Red Tornado
January 26, 2011, 05:56 PM
Thanks for clearing up #1148 Sam. I thought the contiguous state rule was still in effect. Maybe I will do some looking next time I visit family in N.C.
RT

oneounceload
January 26, 2011, 08:03 PM
You wouldn't even need to have your FFL's paper with you - he could always fax it to the shop while you are there - once they get it, you buy the gun, have it shipped pick it up when you get home.............no different than shopping on line at a place like Bud's....my FFL has done enough transfers there, they know who he is and things ship same day once I give Bud's my CC number

au01st
January 28, 2011, 12:39 AM
Glad I found this post. I live close to the AL/GA border on the 'bama side. I've been working in Columbus all week and keep hearing advertisements on the radio for their gun show this weekend. Well I figured I'd be there anyway, and since I'm looking for a particular gun figured I'd check out the show. Little light bulb in my head clicked and said I should check if I even can first...sigh...I can't.

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