Chief suggests arms can keep businesses safe (oh, I like this guy!)


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Drizzt
January 24, 2003, 05:43 PM
Chief suggests arms can keep businesses safe

BY TYRONE WALKER
Of The Post and Courier Staff

Some Folly Road business owners concerned about crime were taken aback Thursday night when Charleston Police Chief Reuben Greenberg appeared to suggest that an effective crime deterrent would be for them to arm themselves.

Others nodded in agreement.

About two dozen frustrated James Island business owners met with Greenberg and several Charleston police officers and Charleston County sheriff's deputies to discuss protection against a rash of robberies and burglaries along a stretch of Folly Road.

Greenberg told them that robberies, burglaries and rapes are a fact of life for communities across the country.

"There is never going to be zero crime. We can only work to reduce those that happen," he said.

He said one particular downtown business in a high-crime area hasn't been held up in 20 years because the owner and employees, including the guy mopping the floor, are armed.

Mary Jane Keathley, meeting organizer and co-owner of a restaurant, asked Greenberg if he was joking. "Are you telling us we should arm ourselves?" she said.

"That's a decision you have to make for yourself," Greenberg said.

"I find that completely unacceptable," she said.

"I can't believe that's the only way," one man said.

"That's the kind of world you live in," Greenberg replied.

At least eight robberies and 15 break-ins have been reported along the heavily traveled 800 and 900 blocks of Folly Road in the past 12 months. Some business owners have called for more protection.

"This meeting is the first step," said Capt. H.T. Boatwright of the sheriff's office.

Keathley, who owns the Lighthouse Tea and Coffee Co. where the meeting was held, asked officers to talk about ways to prevent crime.

"I'm scared. My employees are scared," she said.

A carwash owner noted vandalism at his business.

"Whoever is doing this is not afraid of consequences," he said.


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Greg L
January 24, 2003, 05:48 PM
If we have to have Homeland Security, lets toss Tom Ridge out on his butt and put Reuben Greenberg in instead. It would make for interesting press confrences at least. :) Imagine that, self responsibility.

Greg

El Tejon
January 24, 2003, 06:37 PM
Didn't Greenberg write a book about 12 years ago?:confused:

TallPine
January 24, 2003, 09:59 PM
Don't know if he wrote a book, but he was featured in Readers Digest a few years back; the article was something like "the cop that cleaned up Charleston"

He seems to be a "straight shooter" from what I can tell.

Yeah, how about Greenberg for Director of Homeland Security?

Wouldn't that just frost the Demmies and the Lefties ... a pro-gun rights black cop in charge of homeland security? :)

Col. Mustard
January 24, 2003, 10:33 PM
Didn't Greenberg write a book about 12 years ago?

Let's Take Back Our Streets!

jrhines
January 25, 2003, 12:26 AM
I do some bussiness in Tulsa from time to time. The guy I work with there (company owner) has a safe full of guns he inhierited from his wife's first husband (a cop, died young). On the front door of his bussiness he has a NO Firearms sticker. I told him he needed to have someone in the building armed just for the protection of his staff. Long story short, he did, learned to shoot, has guns in the office, does drills with the employees. Says now, if the need arose, after the incident was under control, he would dial 911. When I'm in town we always have an afternoon at the range.

J.Rhines
Seneca, Md.

foghornl
January 25, 2003, 09:24 AM
I moved to Greater Cleveland from Charleston in 1996, but I always liked Chief Greenberg. Good guy, tells it the way it is. I don't remember the exact quote, but some time earlier, after a home owner shot a "home invader", Chief Greenberg said "...Burglars should consider being shot as an occupational hazard..." [words to that effect]

Another incident, although not gun related about Chief Greenberg....There had been a rash of complaints about non-handicap cars parked in handicap spaces. Chief stated there would be "Vigorous Enforcement" of those statutes. Few weeks later, a Charleston PD sergeant parked regular marked CPD car in handicap space of downtown post office, for almost an hour. Newspaper (Post & Courrier) printed picture of said car, Sarge was either demoted or fired, don't remember. Greenberg tells it straight, and follows through. Too bad more of "Our Leaders" don't do the same.

BenW
January 25, 2003, 11:23 AM
Greenberg is a good guy. I go to Charleston quite a bit for work. It's always been one of my favorite towns, though as evidenced in the article above, it's getting more than its fair share of sheeple moving in.

"Mary Mary Quite Contrary" may find arming herself completely unacceptable, but then that's what I think about her attitude (or lack thereof) towards protecting herself. I wonder if she's from California?:rolleyes:

Delmar
January 25, 2003, 11:26 AM
The Doughnuts made me do it!:neener:

garrettwc
January 25, 2003, 01:36 PM
After reading Mrs. Keathley's replies in the article, I would have to refer to her as "victim to be" and restaurant owner.

I like Greenberg's views, and his honesty about expressing them. We need more people like him at the grassroots level.

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