Gun control fight to begin in 2 weeks


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Gouranga
January 27, 2011, 05:02 PM
Obama will push the matter within 2 week according to this article.

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/01/27/white-house-to-push-gun-control.html#

Time to harass your reps guys and gals and make sure they KNOW what the majority of Americans really think.

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tyeo098
January 27, 2011, 05:29 PM
SAMPLE LETTER FILL IN AND SEND
(corrections welcomed :D)


Dear Senator,

I have just read a news article about the up-and-coming "debate on the hill" regarding gun control. I believe that you and your colleagues will see reason over... “rhetoric” that the opposing party will inevitably use in order to 'sway' votes. Many, if not more, people die every year in car accidents, but we fail to see any heart felt parents/friends step onto the congress floor and plead that we restrict cars, or ban them all together. A quick online search yields an average number of 30,000 killed by firearms each year, and an average of 41,000 killed by auto deaths each year. It should be noted that the firearm-related statistic included police shootings of “bad guys” and self-defense shootings.

All that the “gun control” laws accomplish is an explosion of firearm buying, along with an extremely exaggerated inflation of price. Eg. Before Pres. Obama took office, the going price for an AR-15 type was around $400-$500 dollars, and that was fair for the piece you were getting. When he won the presidency, the price rose from $400-$500 to $1000-$1500, and even more.



Its not finished yet, but I have to eat dinner. Anyone want to finish it for me?

Zundfolge
January 27, 2011, 05:33 PM
Obama lost the gun control fight when he lost the house.

He and his ilk may start prattling about gun control, but they couldn't get any gun control through when they owned the House and had a filibuster proof Senate.

Certainly we need to remain vigilant, but now is not the time for panic.

Gouranga
January 27, 2011, 05:36 PM
Panic...absolutely not.

But I think we go on the offensive and make sure our reps KNOW what we think.

We have seen a few Reps (so called conservatives) go on the record supporting Mag size restrictions and say they would consider dialog about AWB. To me that means they are forgetting about us. We need to remind them now, before they see the bill(s). We want them to refuse to even look at it.

CoRoMo
January 27, 2011, 06:03 PM
Writing a letter takes very little time, and once I get started with a few lines, it just begins to flow into a full page. I just folded it up, it's in the envelope and ready to go straight to Washington DC.

Don't let me be alone in this. Please. Also, remember that your state legislatures might enact their own versions of this legislation, especially if the federal level bill fails. It's happened before, it can happen again.

Husker_Fan
January 27, 2011, 06:09 PM
It could be worse. We could have liberals like George W. Bush, or Chris Christie who both supported "assault weapon" bans. I don't let letters after peoples names fool me, and I don't buy into rumors.

Oh, and IBTL.

danprkr
January 27, 2011, 06:10 PM
All of them have a form on their web page also. It probably doesn't carry the weight a paper letter does, but it does let them know where you stand. I've already contacted my congressman and both senators from my state.

Panic...absolutely not.

Wishful thinking sir. I'd bet the second Obama utters the words, "New laws to curb gun violence" or anything like that the panic will ensue. I hope not, but history says it will.

CoRoMo
January 27, 2011, 06:13 PM
Oh, and IBTL.
If you think the thread needs to be locked, you should hit the report http://www.thehighroad.org/images/buttons/report.gif button and alert it to the moderators. Otherwise, don't type childish and pointless remarks like 'IBTL'.

kingpin008
January 27, 2011, 06:15 PM
Please don't post things like "IBTL". It's childish, and pointless. If you think this thread needs locked, report it to a Mod. *whoops - CoRoMo beat me to it!*

I posted it in another thread, but for anyone looking to write a letter (and all of us should) here's a link to a site that will provide you easy access to your representative's contact info:

http://www.contactingthecongress.org/

Happy writing!

Husker_Fan
January 27, 2011, 06:16 PM
It was not meant to deride the thread, any poster, or convey my opinion of what should happen to the thread. It was merely my way of predicting what will happen.

rajb123
January 27, 2011, 06:24 PM
Frankly, more bans and gun control are a done deal since the politians feel threatened as a result of Arizona and they can justify these moves to their constituants.

I look for an assault weapon ban, big clip ban, a central digital depository for gun transactions and ownership at the federal level, and more sources of information from doctors, hospitals, etc for reporting third party views on mental fitness into the NICS system. Also under consideration will be bans of private gun transactions between non-FLL folks.

The Supremes have two new activist members who will side with gun-grabbers, so any legal challanges are likely doomed.

russ69
January 27, 2011, 06:24 PM
tyeo098 says; "All that the “gun control” laws accomplish is an explosion of firearm buying, along with an extremely exaggerated inflation of price. Eg. Before Pres. Obama took office, the going price for an AR-15 type was around $400-$500 dollars, and that was fair for the piece you were getting. When he won the presidency, the price rose from $400-$500 to $1000-$1500, and even more."

That sounds like you are complaining about the cost of firearms. It might be better to stay on point. More firearms laws will not fix the Az shooter incident, the guy was a nut job.

hso
January 27, 2011, 06:25 PM
more bans and gun control are a done deal

That opinion has been voiced by many before this back before the last presidential election and then leading up to the recent Congressional elections. There are no "done deals" in politics and thinking so is defeatist and counterproductive. Concern for what might happen is reasonable and should motivate us to make an effort to stave off any misguided attempts to attack our rights under the Constitution.

[QUOTE]I have just read a news article about the up-and-coming "debate on the hill" regarding "gun control". I believe that you and your colleagues will see reason over “rhetoric” that fear mongers will inevitably use in order to 'sway' votes.

During the height of the "AWB" the National Science Foundation and the Centers for Disease Control both clearly stated that state and national "gun control" laws had no clear beneficial effect in reducing crime using firearms nor violent crime overall. Nothing has changed.

During the period since the sun-setting of the the AWB violent crime has dropped. Firearms crime has dropped. This while sales of firearms has increased dramatically.

And let us not forget that the SCOTUS has clearly reaffirmed the individual right to keep and bear arms recently making any federal restriction on the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution unlikely to be viable.

Let fact instead of fear guide your vote and be assured that our votes will support your choice to ignore the fear mongers and petty politicians seeking easy scapegoats.

Regards,

"

Dreamcast270mhz
January 27, 2011, 06:49 PM
Hollywood, TV and politicians have made guns out to be good for nothing but killing people. That is a myth.

The truth is people like me, raised around guns and liking the legitimate uses of them, and most users here, who are of legal firearm age and own guns, and use them for hunting, sport, defense and as an occupation.

The truth is we have gun nazis of all backgrounds, of all parties and of all beliefs. It is a myth that all gun control people are of the left wing, the truth is that a large amount who are vocal are of the left-wing, we can't blame politica parties, rather individuals who backstab us after being elected and go after our rights.

I'm not worried about the feds banning rifles, I'm worried about another hi-cap mag ban.

McCall911
January 27, 2011, 06:59 PM
I'm trusting what Boehner said in that he's not going to entertain more gun legislation. However, I'd like to stay vigilant, just in case. I've been disappointed before with Republicans!

Dominus
January 27, 2011, 07:13 PM
:banghead:
The ink is barely dry on Heller and Mcdonald, and we have yet to get all 50 states on the same page with regards to 2A. I know the usual suspects will call for gun control day in and day out but now they have something more to point at and turn up the BS.

As a result, I will continue to write my congress critters and support org's like NRA, SAF and state level org's.

Truth be told just when I though we made some steps forward we end up taking just as many backwards. I'm in NY and with the feds taking up the gun control issue, I don't see how we will ever rid ourselves of the state level AWB that been held over from the Clinton bill. All I can do hang my head in dismay.

hunt
January 27, 2011, 07:21 PM
hi all
i am with you on contacting your senate rep
congress will follow the wish of gun control parties
and the media as they supply them much more "income"
than we do or can for that matter
unless everyone who loves there right to hunt
the compitition shooting community, western,skeet,trap etc
or just those who fear the public criminals at large due to
our "unlegal" systems ineptness
we ALL everyone need to write and let the people who can make
a differnce know what we want as a country and community
if the folks who have started the letters here can finish them
and keep it respectful WE CAN make the difference thats needed
i for one will contact everyone i know that owns firearms(every person i know) and forward it to them along with all the contact info needed
a email is just as effective as a snail mail but i personally will send both
this is not panic by any means just someone who is willing to try to keep my weapons that i do so enjoy

P.S
quote/I'm in NY and with the feds taking up the gun control issue, I don't see how we will ever rid ourselves of the state level AWB that been held over from the Clinton bill. All I can do hang my head in dismay.\quote
Dominus i feel your pain as we are in the same !@*@^ state

tyeo098
January 27, 2011, 08:24 PM
That opinion has been voiced by many before this back before the last presidential election and then leading up to the recent Congressional elections. There are no "done deals" in politics and thinking so is defeatist and counterproductive. Concern for what might happen is reasonable and should motivate us to make an effort to stave off any misguided attempts to attack our rights under the Constitution.

[QUOTE]I have just read a news article about the up-and-coming "debate on the hill" regarding "gun control". I believe that you and your colleagues will see reason over “rhetoric” that fear mongers will inevitably use in order to 'sway' votes.

During the height of the "AWB" the National Science Foundation and the Centers for Disease Control both clearly stated that state and national "gun control" laws had no clear beneficial effect in reducing crime using firearms nor violent crime overall. Nothing has changed.

During the period since the sun-setting of the the AWB violent crime has dropped. Firearms crime has dropped. This while sales of firearms has increased dramatically.

And let us not forget that the SCOTUS has clearly reaffirmed the individual right to keep and bear arms recently making any federal restriction on the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution unlikely to be viable.

Let fact instead of fear guide your vote and be assured that our votes will support your choice to ignore the fear mongers and petty politicians seeking easy scapegoats.

Regards,

"
Like it, thanks :D

gc70
January 27, 2011, 08:42 PM
Write to your members of Congress, but also use email and the phone.

All surface mail addressed to members of Congress goes through a screening process that can delay delivery by several weeks. If you need to express your wishes more quickly, use email or the phone.

UpTheIrons
January 27, 2011, 09:15 PM
Write to your members of Congress, but also use email and the phone.

All surface mail addressed to members of Congress goes through a screening process that can delay delivery by several weeks. If you need to express your wishes more quickly, use email or the phone.

^This.

Also, send a fax. It doesn't have to be screened, but it is still a physical piece of paper that must be handled (unless they just get an electronic copy of their faxes these days).

Davek1977
January 28, 2011, 05:59 AM
The Supremes have two new activist members who will side with gun-grabbers, so any legal challanges are likely doomed. :eek: they replaced two of the Supremes???? Was Diana Ross one of them?!?!?! ;) Oh, I see that you meant the USSC, in which case your info is erroneous----The recent appointments did not shift the balance of the Supreme court in any way.... the most newly appointed members are not liberals replacing any conservative voices.....liberals replacing liberals (or conservatives replacing conservatives) does nothing to shift the balance of power. It amazes me how few people actually undertand the basic dynamics of the USSC

And Dreamcast:
the truth is that a large amount who are vocal are of the left-wing Exactly....so who is most likley to influence public sentiment on the issue? Those that scream the loudest are often those who are heard by the most people. So long as the left tolerates the gun-grabbing, radical elements among them, they will rightfully get a portion of the blame directed at them. While its fair that the blame should be leveled at "individuals"..... its hard not to notice that the vast majority of those "individuals" have alligned themselves with one of our two parties for the most part. Because of that....and their tolerance of those people.....they will always ...rightfully, IMO....be partially to blame for their promotion of gun control in American politics.

Husker_Fan
January 28, 2011, 08:27 AM
My feeling is that the President wouldn't try anything serious on guns until he has a second term. Even then, the congress won't want to do anything about it. Remember, President Bush said he would sign a reauthorization of the AWB, but a Democratic Congress wouldn't touch it. But, that's to much politics and McCarthy and others will try to push this through.

So, here is a specific suggestion for how to respond: I recall seeing a study about the Virginia Tech shooting that noted that a ban on hi-capacity magazines would have made no difference. That was in a government report if I recall. A copy of that with the section highlighted should be given to your Representative when you send a letter opposing a magazine ban. Present the logical argument that, aside from a ban being contrary to the 2A, the ban doesn't help.

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