What pistols shoot 7.62x25?


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mopar92
January 27, 2011, 10:54 PM
Besides the Tok 33 and the CZ 52? Any other pistols use this fantastic round?

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fallout mike
January 27, 2011, 11:07 PM
Sterling sporter. It's a semi auto uzi style gun. I know nothing else about it though.

mopar92
January 27, 2011, 11:16 PM
Is it a POS?

fallout mike
January 27, 2011, 11:24 PM
I have no idea. J&G sales has them for $429. They look cool.

Gik-tal
January 28, 2011, 12:11 AM
There were a couple of 1911's converted to that by the NVA during the conflict. Now there is also an AR-15 uppper in that caliber. As well as the PPS43 Pistol.

WardenWolf
January 28, 2011, 01:17 AM
Gik-tal, I STRONGLY doubt that claim. The Tokarev magazine is too long to fit in the 1911's grip, and the Tokarev round just pops out of a 1911's magazine due to its smaller diameter. I have both next to me and I just checked. This, coupled with the fact that someone last year on here was talking about wanting a 1911 converted to 7.62x25 and everyone told them that the round was too long for the action. It's simply not true. It cannot be done.

As for guns chambered in it, I'm pretty sure that, besides that one Sterling, the CZ-52 and Tokarev itself are it.

Troy308
January 28, 2011, 01:33 AM
http://www.centerfiresystems.com/pps43-pis.aspx?utm_source=streamsend&utm_medium=email&utm_content=13295619&utm_campaign=FREE%20SHIPPING%20ON%20PPS%2043%20PISTOLS%20AT%20CENTERFIRE%20SYSTEMS

Shadow 7D
January 28, 2011, 02:01 AM
There are AR uppers that use a mag block and a PPSH stick mag

6x6pinz
January 28, 2011, 05:22 AM
this is a poor example of a 1911 in 7.62x25 but the DO Exist
http://www.auctionarms.com/closed/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6817795.0

WardenWolf
January 28, 2011, 06:57 AM
this is a poor example of a 1911 in 7.62x25 but the DO Exist
http://www.auctionarms.com/closed/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6817795.0
Okay, now that's disturbing. What I don't understand is why it wasn't easier and cheaper to make a whole new gun. That doesn't even make sense. If you're going to go to all that effort to make a 1911 into a Tokarev, why not just make a Tokarev? I own both, and in all honesty, there's no functional advantage the 1911 has over the Tokarev. For all intents and purposes, they're the same gun. The manual of arms is identical. Both are accurate, both are reliable with the round they're designed for. The Tokarev is a little lighter weight and smaller, equivalent in size to a Commander-length 1911. But for all practical purposes, they're the same.

buttrap
January 28, 2011, 07:04 AM
Well there is still the mauser pistol 96 but I would not shoot any newer hot tokariv loads in one though in their day they did take some pretty warm loads that where pretty much 9mm+p.

mopar92
January 28, 2011, 09:46 AM
That's funny... the gentleman that said it can't be done ate crow...

ilove2shoot
January 28, 2011, 11:12 AM
your using the wrong mags to try it in a 1911......get one setup for 38 super, change the barrel and use 9mm mags. yes, yje OAL is still a little long, and you will not get full capacity in that mag.....but it works.

as far as a non-pistol....Gas Piston AR15 for the win:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hitKrIXOnLY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALkP0dKBGgc

tinygnat219
January 28, 2011, 11:40 AM
I don't have a whole lot to add here. There's not much interest from the major pistol manufacturers for this round. The GLock 20 frame is large enough to handle the round and the pressures generated, but the magazines are just a hair too small to take the round. Otherwise, that would be perfect. The FN 5.7 might be another potential pistol too.

WardenWolf
January 28, 2011, 09:30 PM
That's funny... the gentleman that said it can't be done ate crow...
Hard to say "eating crow" when the gun was pretty much remanufactured to a pointless extent to allow it to happen, and it was unsafe and broke. It wasn't even really the same gun anymore.

6x6pinz
January 28, 2011, 11:15 PM
I have seen some "good" examples of the converted 1911. Although I must agree what a waste of a good pistol.
The AR15 chambered in 762x25 has caught my attention but not sure about the pistol version. Again with the option of a PPS43, why?

Buck Snort
January 29, 2011, 04:56 AM
"Polish PPS-43C Pistol 7.62x25 $399 Free Shipping"

A POLISH gun for $399?!! Good luck with that one!!

bigfatdave
January 29, 2011, 09:15 AM
On the subject of Tokarev, I finally worked up the courage to order some SPAM cans of it from ammoman and they're out of stock now.

Anyone have a source for cheap surplus Tokarev, even if corrosive? I have the CZ52 and M57, plus I'm looking for a standard-size Tok ... it is time to embrace the surplus stuff.

E36 Variance
January 29, 2011, 02:58 PM
http://jggunsmith.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/the-tokarev-projects/
http://vuurwapenblog.com/2011/01/24/7-62x25/

Apparently the gun in the second video was originally a 9mm Kimber, and is currently using .38 Super mags with the conversion.

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