Sporterized military rilfes....Bubba's unite!


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451 Detonics
January 31, 2011, 04:47 AM
WARNING!!!!
If you are a purist leave now, the following images may cause discomfort, nausea, vomiting, anal leakage, impotence, or bleeding from the eyes.

However if you are like many rifle shooters worldwide who see a sporting arm struggling to escape the confines of it's military history when you pick up a rifle then read on...and please feel free to post your own Sporters.

Disclaimer

I do not advocate cutting up rare or historical firearms but given the plethora of common surplus rifles available today I see nothing wrong with modifying an ordinary run of the mill military surplus rifle.

I have owned a number of sporters in the past ... Mausers, 1903s, and Krags to name a few. They have run the gamut from chopped military barrels and stocks to full blown customs. Today I own just one, a 98 Mauser. I bought this one after someone had already ruined any collectors value by cutting off the front sight (badly) and it was wearing a flimsy plastic stock. The bore was bright and shiny however and I saw potential. Here are the mods I made to it...

Had the barrel cut to 22 inches and recrowned correctly.
Had the action drilled and tapped for scope mounts.
I then added a Timney Trigger
Added a Buehler style low swing safety
Changed to a Speedlock firing pin
Bedded the action in a Boyd's Thumbhole stock
Exchanged the floorplate for a Gibbs detachable magazine
Modded a 20 round trench mag so it worked correctly and have it for fun.
Currently the rifle is wearing a Simmons Presidential 3X9 scope and Harris bipod.

This rifle shoots 1 1/2 groups with cheap 8mm ammo, haven't worked up handloads yet. The Boyds stock is very comfortable and felt recoil is mild...at least to me it is. The Gibbs magazine worked perfectly from the start and once I replaced the spring and follower in the trench magazine with modded components from a MG 13 mag it too works flawlessly. With the proper loads I would use this on any North American game and I suspect with handloads I can make it accurate enough for casual target shooting. Total cost without the scope (which had been sitting in a drawer for 5 years) was under $600 including the rifle, gunsmithing, and accessories.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z271/reloader1959/rifles/mauser7range.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z271/reloader1959/rifles/mauser6range.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z271/reloader1959/rifles/projectm3round.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z271/reloader1959/rifles/mausermag3-1.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z271/reloader1959/rifles/projectm2.jpg

So how about it folks...got a bubbarized rifle in your safe? Show it off here. Please list the mods you have made along with pics.

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BrocLuno
January 31, 2011, 06:03 AM
Love yours :)

I got a three, but they are awaiting retirement to become projects complete.

The 22-250 is also on a Mauser action. It's nearly done and I'll post pictures in this thread when it is.

The two P17 Enfields (Eddystones) will take a bit longer. One is to be a field rifle - real sporter in the old school sense. One it to be "Tacti-cool" in the "Bubba what you dun" sense :)

They were all chopped long before I got them. This is great thread idea. Should get a lot cool stuff :)

This thread needs to be a sticky?

slicksleeve
January 31, 2011, 06:09 AM
Right on Bro! I am currently neck deep into a Mauser 98 build myself. I have parts everywhere.

Observer
January 31, 2011, 07:04 AM
I have been wanting another 03 Springfield 06 but this one I wish with a peep sight. I have seen several on Gunbroker that are decently sporterized and priced alright also.

Personally I prefer to buy something someone else has already spent the money on.

madcratebuilder
January 31, 2011, 07:40 AM
Your beautiful one time Mauser is hardly a sporterized mil-surp. To me a sproterize rifle would retain part of the military stock with the end of the barrel shortened and original finish. Maybe a set of aftermarket sights hung on the receiver.

Moose458
January 31, 2011, 09:55 AM
Couple of Mausers, K98 into a scout, and a Swedish Mauser sporter.
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/Moose458/257288-R1-16-17.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/Moose458/257288-R1-14-15.jpg
A sporterized military rifle is just that. A military surplus rifle that you change into a sport rifle. It can be anything from shortening the barrel to a full blown sportser. There are no set rules, so it is whatever you want it to be.

451 Detonics
January 31, 2011, 07:46 PM
Nice looking Sporters....

Is it me or for some reason do people tend to gravitate to the thumbhole stocks when they put a sporter together?

Dr.Rob
January 31, 2011, 07:49 PM
451, that's actually a clever mod for the bolt handle. Good looking rifle too.

Jon_Snow
January 31, 2011, 07:59 PM
I don't have any that I can add to the list, but that is a nice looking gun 451. And the 20-rounder just makes it better.

jimmyraythomason
January 31, 2011, 08:06 PM
I have about 10 to 12 Mauser 98 military rifles that I have converted to hunting rifles. None are "bubbas". That is a word that I absolutely abhor.

earlthegoat2
January 31, 2011, 09:46 PM
I do like that bolt handle as well 451.

Any details you would like to share no matter how sparse?

451 Detonics
January 31, 2011, 10:39 PM
That bolt handle is just a lazy man's way of bending it, kits are avaiulable from Brownells.

The 20 round trench mag is a hoot at the range...gets lot's of second looks...

Magno
January 31, 2011, 10:58 PM
Here's my Mosin Nagant all finished up.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/Lutso/25773_447516689128_831164128_5605195_23668_n.jpg?t=1296532506

I didn't try to sporterize it as much as I simply hate the way the Mosin stocks look and would have taken anything else. I love the way this stock looks and feels, but I'm not a fan of the tactical black plastic look either...but it was the lesser of two evils. One day I might try to make a wooden replica of this stock just for my own peace of mind...that way it can look like an antique rifle again, albeit a less ugly one.

HOOfan_1
January 31, 2011, 11:32 PM
Action is Spanish, barrel is Nazi, it currently wears a newer scope as well.

http://i55.tinypic.com/2h33no6.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/t7cw91.jpg

mikerault
February 1, 2011, 12:02 AM
Here you go:

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t155/mikerault/rifle%20project/before_and_after_rifle1_1024.gif

did all the stock work myself, hand cut and trimmed the pistol grip cap from buffalo horn and the forearm tip from rosewood. Added a timney trigger and had a new crown done. Used a non-drilling scope mount. Topped with a 3x9 Nikon Prostaff. IN the picture is a Leaper that didn't make it past the sight in.

Observer
February 1, 2011, 12:02 AM
I may butcher a Mosin Nagant and see what I can come up with. I like your Spanish Mauser. I had one for years and traded it I think.

Tomcat47
February 1, 2011, 12:19 AM
451 ............. NICE!
Moose.......... NICE!
Hoofman........NICE!

Mikerault.... That is what I would like to see the Mosin kinda look like! KInda Rem 700 style!

Magno...... I would Like to see your Mosin..... dang photo bucket :mad: just never seems to work when you want it to.

Nice rifles on this thread....real diamonds in the rough!

Observer..... I would like to see what you come up with as well on the Mosin.

I have one of these ... and every time I touch it I want to tear the stock off of it and burn it! .......... sorry guys! just hate it! Rifle is awesome, but wood sucks to me on most of these rifles! I know what they were and that is understood as well.

Ohio Gun Guy
February 1, 2011, 12:26 AM
Swedish Mauser.....

M91/30
February 1, 2011, 12:39 AM
I bought it this way. Dont know if bubba'd is the right way to explain this but this is my 1928 Springfield 1903 30-06 with a weaver marksman 3-9x40 The trigger is superb, id guess less then 2 lbs breaks crisp. Havent got a chance to do any real accuracy tests, all i know is its at least 2 moa(5 rounds left, 4 degrees out, lpoor rest) not a good test. :P <(Oh forgot to add that i put the scope on it due to a bad scope that came with it. Also I added a low scope safety. Thinking about putting a new Firing pin spring in it, cleaning the bolt of tiny rust freckles, and inletting the stock to operate the magstop.

http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m490/Nathan_McCrohan/Guns/1903.jpg
Sorry about the poor picture, used an unfamiliar camera.

sayak
February 1, 2011, 02:17 AM
Here are mine:

D94R
February 1, 2011, 04:10 AM
My Yugo SKS. Bought a cracked stock one for the sole purpose of this mod. At the time of picture I was having gas tube issues where it would pop up after a few rounds, hence the zip ties which worked, but now I need to solve the issue instead of band-aid it. That scope also didn't last very long as it wouldn't hold zero for more than a few shots.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w239/D94R/Guns/IMGP1319.jpg

451 Detonics
February 1, 2011, 07:09 AM
I figured semi-autos would start showing up in this thread however I don't consider an example like the SKS above to be a sporter, it is still in a military style configuration. This SKS is a sporter, nice stock and Lyman receiver sights....very nicely done...sadly it is not mine.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z271/reloader1959/ChineseSKSSporterized.jpg

kwelz
February 1, 2011, 08:29 AM
I do not like Bubba rifles. Those are NOT bubba rifles!

chicharrones
February 1, 2011, 08:36 AM
That SKS is downright classy. I never thought I'd see one like that. :cool:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z271/reloader1959/ChineseSKSSporterized.jpg

ol' scratch
February 1, 2011, 09:02 AM
I don't see the problem with people who what to make a sporter out of a milsurp. It is there rifle. Keep in mind, I am a budding collector. Not all of these are collectible rifles. I have two that I plan on sporterizing. One is a 1903 Springfield that is just a receiver and a VERY rusty barrel. I plan on spinning the barrel someday and building a 22-250. I also have a Garand that I want to sort of sporterize. That rifle I plan on glass bedding, working on the trigger and possibly mounting a long eye relief scope on. It is a 1943 with a mixture of parts. That one won't take too much and can be put back into its original configuration. I have thought about trying to build a 'sporter' M1C out of it, but may try and find a receiver and build up a parts kit if I do that. I have also considered springing for an M1D instead of doing all that.

I have others for collecting. I have a completely correct H & R M1 and a very nice 1939 rebuilt 1928 1903 Springfield. I picked up a cut down RIA bayonet and an early ammo belt for display on that one.

Edit--I don't know if I consider these 'bubbas'. Many seem to have been done well with rifles that had no collector value. A few months back, the guy who built an Arisaka into a hillbilly 'sniper' rifle, (complete with 'custom' spray paint finish) that was a bubba-ed rifle. It was posted on the High Road.

451 Detonics
February 1, 2011, 05:01 PM
This stock from Timbersmith tempts me to buy a SKS and set it up with Tech Sights...

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z271/reloader1959/rifles/skstimbersmith.jpg

I don't really consider my Hakim to be sporterized...just a aloha camo job and homemade scope mount...

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z271/reloader1959/hakim/hakim1d.jpg

This Hakim has been sporterized....not by me tho....

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z271/reloader1959/rifles/pinkhakimdi4.jpg

Spec ops Grunt
February 1, 2011, 05:24 PM
While I generally hate sportorizing, this thread is a lot better than most.


Good work Gentlemen!

ol' scratch
February 1, 2011, 07:24 PM
This one is on gunbroker right now. In this case, the person who built this rifle did it on a cut receiver. I assume that means cut and rewelded. Actually, the work looks like quality.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=214224471

Blue Brick
February 1, 2011, 08:02 PM
Not mine...

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r15/Blue_Brick/4890874584_6af0c0b1d1.jpg

jimmyraythomason
February 1, 2011, 08:24 PM
I built this rifle on a Colombian Mauser 98 original chambered in 30.06. I got the .308 barrel off gunbroker.com. The bolt is from a Parker Hale. Stock is from a Remington M798. Trigger/safety assembly is a Zastava unit. Scope is a Leupold VX-1 in Talley mounts. Brownell's supplied the aluminum trigger guard and "engraved" floorplate. It is sub moa @100yds. I did all of the work except installing the barrel myself. I hot blued it with Brownell's Oxynate #7.

slicksleeve
February 1, 2011, 08:27 PM
Jimmyray, that buck should have known better than walk in your back yard! Nice rifle.

gunnutery
February 1, 2011, 08:31 PM
451, that's a pretty sweet looking SKS. That does look tempting.

451 Detonics
February 1, 2011, 10:02 PM
jimmyraythomason...

looks like beautiful bluing job on that Mauser.

jimmyraythomason
February 1, 2011, 10:12 PM
looks like beautiful bluing job on that Mauser. Thank you! That is high polish finished off with 555 "white" buffing compound on a medium felt wheel and blued in Brownell's Oxynate #7 bluing salts.

XxWINxX94
February 2, 2011, 12:48 AM
While I generally hate sportorizing, this thread is a lot better than most.


Agreed! Might start a project of my own!

35 Whelen
February 2, 2011, 01:54 AM
So how about it folks...got a bubbarized rifle in your safe? Show it off here. Please list the mods you have made along with pics.

Bubbarized? Come on! the term "bubba" or "bubba'ed" in the gun world is worn out. It's a term coined by the whiney types who think every military rifle ever made should be tucked in safe or museum somewhere. That being said, here's my favorite of many:

It started life as an issue FR-8 much like this one:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/FR-8/FR-8.jpg

When the dust al settled, it looked like this:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/FR-8.jpg

That's the original stock which I HEAVILY modified by removing all the metal hardware then filling the voids with tinted AcraGlas gel, adding a Ruger recoil pad, bedding the receiver into the stock, then refinishing it.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/FR-8/FR8-TOP.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/FR-8/FR8-Bottom.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/FR-8/FR8-7A.jpg

I converted the 2-stage trigger to single stage and lightened the pull to about 3.5-4lbs.

Then mounted an XS Systems (Ashley at the time) Scout scope mount and mounted a Redfield reciever sight on it.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/FR-8/FR8scopebase.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/FR-8/FR8sight.jpg

She's an extremely accurate rifle...
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/FR-8/FR8groups1a-1.jpg

...and has taken more game than all my other centerfires combined.

Stand by for more...

35W

35 Whelen
February 2, 2011, 01:56 AM
Another started life as a beat up looking Mosin M-44:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/M44/M44Fullright.jpg
Heavy external pitting, but a perfect bore. So...
I made and fitted a very low butterknife type bolt handle and worked the right rear portion of the receiver down for additional clearance. All this was done to facilitate the mounting of a receiver sight:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/M44/Rearsightboltopen.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/M44/Rearsightleftclose.jpg

Next, I modified the bayo/front sight mount ro accomodate a front sight off a Finn M39:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/M44/Sawingbase.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/M44/Grindingbase.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/M44/Frontsightrightfront.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/M44/Sightbaseturneddown.jpg

Then finally I bead blasted the entire rig and Parkerized it:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/M44/Parked10.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/M44/Parked11.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/M44/Parked8.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/M44/Parked7.jpg

Bedded the action to the stock.

35W

35 Whelen
February 2, 2011, 02:15 AM
Not exactly sporterized, but I took a $125 Swiss K-31 and made a tack-driving, AR-15 eating match rifle.

Don't have pictures of all I did, but I first bedded it, then added a good Redfield Palma receiver sight and a Lyman 17A front:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/1953%20K-31/P1010112.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/1953%20K-31/P1010110.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/1953%20K-31/K-31FrontPeep-1.jpg

Next I added an adjustable front sling rail...
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Targets/P1010083.jpg
....and a good leather cheek rest. Then finally modified the 2-stage trigger to take out the first stage and remove most of the overtravel(mod not pictured):
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/1953%20K-31/Triggermod5.jpg

All that has made for an extemely accurate rifle. Shoots way, way better than I can hold:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/1953%20K-31/P1010115.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Targets/DSC_0005.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Targets/NOEK31180edit.jpg

And finally a 600 yd. target fired prone with a sling and no other support.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Targets/600ydgongtest-labeled-1.jpg
35W

D94R
February 2, 2011, 06:26 AM
You're right, I guess my SKS is less "sport" and more "tactical". However, nothing added to it makes it "still military configured". The SKS was never outfitted with any of those options for military use. If a scope mount and black stock make it so, then that definition has issues. Sportorized is just as subjective of a verb as any other too. Though I'm in the camp of guys that dismiss the term's "bubba, bubbarized, etc" along with the term "tactical" anymore. Everything these days is tactical.

451 Detonics
February 2, 2011, 07:38 AM
The K-31 is a rifle I have always wanted to turn into a sporter, I have found nice sporter monte carlo stocks, scope mounts, everything needed but I just don't want to add another caliber, tho I already load so many one more probably wouldn't make a difference.

It's nice seeing the receiver sights on some of these.

BTW...I used the bubba term humorously, I didn't think I would have to explain that....

Otis is DaMan
February 2, 2011, 08:31 AM
Simple effective inexpensive Yugo....

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr283/duston22/Mauser/IMG_0001.jpg?t=1296653371

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr283/duston22/Mauser/IMG_0002.jpg?t=1296653453 :)

35 Whelen
February 2, 2011, 10:16 AM
By the way, there's some really nice work here guys. Kudos!
35W

Storm
February 2, 2011, 10:30 AM
Here's a K31 sporter that I ran across sitting on a rack in a shop. Had I not seen the unique bolt handle I would have looked right past it. Already having a K31 in original condition I couldn't resist it. $119 and it has a Boyd's stock and the clamp-on side scope. Those two features are worth more than I paid for the entire rifle. Since acquiring the rifle and after this photo was taken I put an original front and read sight back on and have acquired an original stock and all parts to return this rifle to original condition if I want. I generally don't go for sporter configurations, but this one is different for me, plus, I can live with it knowing that I can return the rifle to original condition any time that I want.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9794/k31s.jpg

451 Detonics
February 3, 2011, 04:15 AM
Wish I could stumble onto a deal like that. With the straight pull bolt there would be no scope worries and there is a mount that centers the scope over the bore rather than being offset, it does require drilling and tapping however. The same company also does a great Mosin mount.

http://www.rocksolidind.com/gpage.html

BrocLuno
February 3, 2011, 11:55 AM
Bubba's been having fun in the shop. Lot's of cool ideas here. I'll post a few of mine as they get closer to shootin :)

hiawatha
February 3, 2011, 05:20 PM
I'm generally "anti-bubba," although the first rifle I bought was a sporterized 1917 Enfield. But 451D, that Aloha Hakim is way cool! And there are a lot of other great looking projects here.

group17
February 4, 2011, 11:26 AM
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/806/lee3.jpg

Parker Hale mk4

SaxonPig
February 4, 2011, 12:01 PM
An old professional rebuild done in Bavaria:

http://www.fototime.com/5CEEF8D30C654A5/standard.jpg


One I did myself starting with a barreled action:

http://www.fototime.com/3AEA8863E2A6F5C/standard.jpg


This one was already poorly chopped when I got it so I rebuilt it correctly:

http://www.fototime.com/74C9A3ECCFB7510/standard.jpg

BobGrand
February 4, 2011, 07:42 PM
Lots of great looking "chops". I have one I got from my dad many years ago that he picked up already cut down and kind of butchered. He didn't do anything with it and I had it in my gun cab until this year. I am just starting to work on it so will post after I get there.

Bob

35 Whelen
February 4, 2011, 07:45 PM
Beautiful stuff Saxon!
35W

VT Deer Hunter
February 4, 2011, 08:00 PM
I will once i get some pics of my custom Mosin Nagant. She is going to be my f class rifle.

Cob
February 6, 2011, 04:43 PM
Hello Guys, here's a pic - Mosin Nagant project including a custom walnut stock built myself from a blank/plank of walnut. It's not finished, literally i have to "finish" the the wood, both with final shaping and checkering, improve sights, jnstalling swivel studs, trigger, etc.. but have less than $100.00 in the whole project (not counting a few tools purchased for the shop):cool:;
click on the pic for a larger view.

rocinante
February 6, 2011, 04:47 PM
Looking at the posted pics in this thread all I can say is they do not understand Bubbha at all. I didn't see any duct tape, bailing wire or my personal favorite J.B. Weld.

Cob
February 6, 2011, 05:13 PM
As Bubba sayz, if it moves and it's not supposed to - use duct tape
If it doen't move and it's supposed to use WD-40
If neither one of the two above don't work, use a hammer
And if the hammer doesn't fix it, it's probably an electrical problem.

rocinante
February 6, 2011, 05:22 PM
and when Bubbha is totally stumped he calls in Boudreaux the cajun for consultation.

My current bubbha brain idea is to put an UZI folding stock on a vz58.

Most my bubbhazations reflect more poor taste than poor execution. Rattlesnake grips on a S&W 915 for example.

kludge
February 6, 2011, 05:49 PM
Don't cringe, this was my dad's hunting rifle, a 1929 M1903 and was sporterized back in the 50's or early 60's. One of the very few firearms that would never be sold no matter what.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/84kludge/THR/M1903_1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/84kludge/THR/M1903_2.jpg

esque
February 6, 2011, 06:08 PM
sks, i added the cheek rest and grip(fiberglass)http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae72/ma90248/th_PB150005.jpg (http://s959.photobucket.com/albums/ae72/ma90248/?action=view&current=PB150005.jpg)

Carl N. Brown
February 6, 2011, 06:33 PM
No collectible military rifles were harmed in the making of these:
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=34253&d=1137800354

Vaarok
February 6, 2011, 08:35 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/Vaarok/mexjaeger.jpg

It's a Steyr made 1912 Mexican Mauser, recontoured military stock, chopped barrel, set triggers, spoon-ish bolt... I think it's a thirties homebrew from Europe. It's simultaneously way better done than any other sporter jobs I've seen from the period, but nowhere near Guild Gun standards of execution.

BrocLuno
February 7, 2011, 12:33 AM
Kludge - daddy's old 03 is plain gorgeous :)

Gromky
February 7, 2011, 03:21 AM
kludge very pretty, no cringing. I'm hunting with a 1929 as well, that has had many rounds of modification and abuse. I just wish I could get a new stock that nice on it for a reasonable price.

Any rifle that was chopped in the 50's/60's/70's I think should have a free pass to just be a sporter. At that point, they didn't have any historical value. Cutting one up at this point is horrible, but there's no reason to be ashamed of a very nicely done conversion when they were just a cheap, accurate tool.

Cob
February 7, 2011, 07:49 AM
you ought to post pics of those rattlesnake grips

kludge
February 7, 2011, 10:01 AM
Kludge - daddy's old 03 is plain gorgeous :)

kludge very pretty, no cringing. I'm hunting with a 1929 as well, that has had many rounds of modification and abuse. I just wish I could get a new stock that nice on it for a reasonable price.

Any rifle that was chopped in the 50's/60's/70's I think should have a free pass to just be a sporter. At that point, they didn't have any historical value. Cutting one up at this point is horrible, but there's no reason to be ashamed of a very nicely done conversion when they were just a cheap, accurate tool.

Thanks to both of you, and no I'm not ashamed. When my dad died several of the guns got dispersed by my brother among us kids. He got the M1911 (in nearly mint condition) I got the .30 Carbine (IBM), almost as nice, probably less than 300-400 rounds through it it's whole life. My sister/BIL got the M1903. I was heartbroken; the 1903 was my favorite.

It was a fair bit nicer when it left home. After about 10 years I was tired of seeing it not taken care of and asked to have it. He gladly gave it to me and went and bought another sporterized M1903A3.

My mom is still holding a set of Buffalo Bill Winchesters for me (rifle + carbine, NIB and unfired). My dad worked at Sears and put them on layaway when they came in.

Biohazard1993
January 8, 2014, 09:27 AM
451 detonics... Your rifle is beatiful and given the chance I think they would have used that in the trenches lol (no seriously). I have a question though, on the trench mag i see a chain. What is the deal with the extended mags in that era having a chain? the 10 round mag that I want for my M1903 springfield has the chain too. Oh and if anyone knows if the ten round mag for the M1903 works i would like to know before i lay 70 big ones down on a paper weight. Thanks.

ugaarguy
January 9, 2014, 01:58 AM
The OP hasn't logged in since the spring of 2012. I've moved the new posts to a new thread here - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=740169.

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