How accurate is a good 6" .357 at 25, 50 and 100 yds.?


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bushmaster1313
February 1, 2011, 08:09 PM
Thinking of getting a 6" .357 for range work.

What type of accuracy should I expect from the gun?

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Fleet
February 1, 2011, 08:12 PM
My Dan Wesson 15-2 will put 50 rounds through a 2" hole offhand at 25 yards.

ILikeLead
February 1, 2011, 08:12 PM
You should read about Mr. Elmer Keith!

Best biography title I ever heard. "Hell, I was there!"

mr.trooper
February 1, 2011, 08:17 PM
Look in a mirror.

NMGonzo
February 1, 2011, 08:45 PM
I can hit the paper plate at 100 yards every time if I don't botch it.

oldgaranddad
February 1, 2011, 08:55 PM
I think the wildcards in accuracy would be the shooter followed by the ammo with the firearm remaining fairly static (let's not get into the cold vs hot barrel stuff). There are days I think I am perfecting my broadside of the barn technique at the range and others I am putting holes inside holes. Then again, I have seen handguns strapped into bench rests that have had wildly different ballistic patterns due to the ammo too.

9mmepiphany
February 1, 2011, 09:42 PM
I don't think I own a .357Mag...Colt Python (6"), S&W M-27 (8.375"), M13 (4") or M-66 (2.5")...that wouldn't hold 4" at 50 yards.

At 100 yards, I shoot at 8" paper plates (6" centers) and shooting from a roll-over prone position, keep all my shots in the middle...the limiting factor at that range is my eyesight

frankiestoys
February 1, 2011, 10:00 PM
I own a 6'' Ruger GP 100 and recently fired out to 25 yrds and was overall impressed with my results, wish i could post the pics but im having trouble with my photobucket account. Anyway if you plan on doing a great deal of shooting like this you may want to consider a pistol scope. Good luck

bushmaster1313
February 1, 2011, 10:17 PM
Most shooting will be at 7 and 21 yards

Sounds like any good gun will shoot better than I can

SharpsDressedMan
February 1, 2011, 11:56 PM
A four inch Ruger Security Six, with four rounds almost touching, and the other two opening the group to about the size of the triggerguard, at 25 yards. Multiply by 4, and you have 100 yards, should the shooter be able to see and hold as well as the gun shoots. A six inch barreled gun could possibly do better. http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/matquig/DSC05793.jpg

Shoot66
February 2, 2011, 02:21 AM
I shoot mostly at 50 m (55y) at 4 inch (clay) or 5 in (steel) targets. The success ratio is around 70%. Shooting standing, two hands hold. A hundred yards with 10 in targets is more the less the same. May be a bit lower.

BCRider
February 2, 2011, 04:33 AM
Look in a mirror.

Yeah, really. It's going to be YOU that is the limit far moreso than the gun. At the longer ranges the ability to hold your sight picture very accurately will determine the hit ratio far more than the gun and ammo itself.

Having said this I do find that on all my guns where I've shot a mix of lead and jacketed that the lead rounds seem to group more tightly than the jacketed. So for best results shoot with lead bullets that you know group best from your gun.

sw282
February 2, 2011, 04:49 AM
A friend of mine has a 100yd group that measures a little under 7" shot with his S&W Mod27 357 MAG 8 3/8" barrel. He shot it seated off a bench w/ sand bag rest. Ammo- Remington 357Mag 158gr jhp

BCRider
February 2, 2011, 04:57 AM
Sandbags is cheatin'... :D

A buddy and I shot at a 50 meter steel target 18x24 weak hand only free standing and in double action. We both got 5 out of 6 hits and with big grins of disguised fear on our face decided to call it a draw... :D

huntershooter
February 2, 2011, 08:04 AM
Your question implies "what is the potential accuracy of a good revolver", not the shooter.
I have a 6" mod 27-2 that consistently shoots just under 2" @ 50 yds., for six shots, with iron sights from a bench rest.
I own dozens of S&W revolvers, this is THE MOST accurate of the bunch.

22-rimfire
February 2, 2011, 08:39 AM
The accuracy potential of the revolver will likey exceed your ability to shoot it. At 100 yds, I think you will be doing well to hit a 6-8" paper plate;4-6" at 50 yds, and 2-3" at 25 yds if you are fairly good. I strive for about 6" accuracy with my hunting revolvers between 50 and 100 yds. A lot depends on how much you shoot.

dogngun
February 2, 2011, 09:14 AM
I was still young enough to see that far with open sights.

The major problems will be with you, not with the gun, if you shoot a Smith, Ruger or Colt in even reasonable mechanical condition. They require practice and good basic technique, which of course means you will be forced to spend a lot of range time with one...terrible thing, huh?


Have a great time!

mark

Snobal
February 2, 2011, 08:20 PM
If you cast your own bullets, keeping them on a paper plate at 100 yards is not a big deal.

I've never found a "store-bought" bullet that would group anywhere close to what home-cast bullets will do.

JMHO - YRMV

9mmepiphany
February 2, 2011, 11:13 PM
I've never found a "store-bought" bullet that would group anywhere close to what home-cast bullets will do.

Factory loaded Speer Lawman 140gr Pentagonal JHP or Speer 140gr 3/4 jacket swagged SWCHP loaded to the same specs (I didn't do the loading, a friend did the development and chrono work) out of a Colt Python 1-14" twist barrel...the faster twist stabilizes the lighter bullet better than the slower twist S&W barrels

CraigC
February 3, 2011, 10:48 AM
I've never found a "store-bought" bullet that would group anywhere close to what home-cast bullets will do.
I've never had an accuracy issue with commercial cast bullets. Whether the generic type or premium heavyweights from specialty casters. Have had no problem finding cast bullets loads with commercial bullets that are at least as accurate as premium jacketed bullets. Two inches at 50yds is what I've come to expect from an accurate sixgun with an accurate load. Commercial cast or jacketed.

Sniper X
February 3, 2011, 01:40 PM
I had a six inch GP100 as my first .357 mag pistol. I stuck a Bushnell Phantom Magnum scope on it (2X) and I was able to shoot a raggad hole at 25 m easily off a sand bag, a larger raggad hole at 50m, and a decent group not over a few inches at 100m.....BTW this was with 158gr semi wadcutters. Factory ones, not handloads.

luis7
February 3, 2011, 02:34 PM
This is my target photo.
Five shoot around 30 yds (are my first five 2011īs shoots)
358477 lyman bullet with 3.3 grain of WSL.
One hand (left)
Accurate or not my S&W 686 Practical Champion?
Greetings from Spain.

scotjute
February 3, 2011, 03:16 PM
I can routinely hit 1 lb. cans at 75 yds. with my Ruger Security Six, 6" barrell with 1 type of ammo.

PapaG
February 3, 2011, 06:06 PM
Years ago, little brother and I had our annual 100 yard matches (just he and I) with a selection of firearms, bench rest, and finished up the day with a pair of targets each with .357 and .44 mag. (We were in our early/late 30s at the time).

With good loads (357446/ 14 2400) in the 357s and 429421, 18 2400 in the 44) we routinely got groups in the fife to seven inch range at 100. Surprised some of the rifle shooters who were having trouble staying on the paper plate targets at the same distance. Can't do it now with irons but routinely get 3" five shot groups with a scoped Contender in .357, and stay around an inch on a calm day with the 22 match bull barrel on the same gun.

Good barrel, good load, good eyes, good technique can do some great things.

Bula
February 4, 2011, 04:34 PM
Beautiful pistola Luis7! Like others have stated, sometimes I can keep all rounds within the 9 ring in an NRA 25yd std at 15 yds, other times I blame the 2 big cups of cofee I had that morning.... Practice really is needed to be consistant.

Animal Mother
February 4, 2011, 10:27 PM
I read somewhere recently that according to the S&W customer service department, a 3" group at 10 yards is considered acceptable accuracy, and would not be eligible for service. Some say S&W isn't the company that it was, after seeing the results in this thread I'm inclined to agree.

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