Ruger Super Blackhawk .... Help me rationalize :-p


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Classified00
February 2, 2011, 10:39 PM
Ever since buying my SW 629 several months ago I've been obsessed with the .44mag / .44 Special package. I've also always wanted a single action revolver. Technically, I have no use for a Ruger Super Blackhawk (unless my 629 fails me just as a bear breaks into my house in suburban Fort Worth) :what:

The best reason for me to buy one is ????? :neener:

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jbkebert
February 2, 2011, 10:50 PM
I have a S&W 29 no dash 8 3/8". The gun after numerous rounds devloped some serious timing issues. I took the gun in and had it repaired by a great local gunsmith. The gun preforms without flaw but I have somehow lost confidence in it. It has now become a safe queen. My Ruger Super Redhawk and Blackhawk have preformed without fail or flaw of any kind. While the smith is a fine fine gun the Rugers are built like a tank.

Now if I had to do it all over again I would pick up a Superblackhawk hunter with a Bisley hammer.

captain awesome
February 2, 2011, 11:34 PM
because you want it! that's the only rationalizing I ever have to do. Telling the wife a good reason why the new gun came home is a different story though.:evil:

W.E.G.
February 2, 2011, 11:39 PM
Get a three-screw with four clicks.

Its the only manly thing to do.

Classified00
February 2, 2011, 11:56 PM
Clearly I need one :p

I obviously have a lot to learn through. What's up with the "three screws and four clicks"? :confused:

Hatchett
February 3, 2011, 02:58 AM
A Ruger single action with three screws in the frame and which produces four distinct clicks when the hammer is drawn back would be classified as the "Old Model" -- as opposed to the "New Model" currently produced. The four clicks are the same four clicks a Colt Single Action Army makes, the semi-safe click, the half cock, one for good measure, and the fully cocked click. To manual turn the cylinder for loading and unloading, the hammer would need to be placed on the second "click" or half-cock. Purists believe this is the only way a single-action revolver should function and so Old Models will tend to be held to higher esteem (and price/value).

Some time ago Ruger switched to the New Model which eliminated two of the clicks including the half cock or the need for one. Unlocking the cylinder to turn it manually is accomplished simply by opening the loading gate. Whether you're a purist or not, one problem with this is that the chambers will not automatically line up with the ejector on a new model and so must be adjusted slightly each time by hand to load or eject shells. The advantage to a New Model is that they added a transfer bar safety so that the revolver can be carried safely with all six chambers loaded -- on the Old Model, it is imperative to carry the weapon with the chamber under the hammer empty. So don't let anyone tell you they are simply inferior. Both models have their advantages, but it's largely a matter of preference.

A third option, which I took, is to acquire a New Model and replace the hammer and trigger with about $180 in custom parts (an easy swap -- you can do it yourself) which retrofit a half cock notch. This produces a New Model which clicks three times, has a half cock which allows the chambers to line up neatly with the ejector/loading gate, and features the transfer bar safety, essentially giving you the advantages of both models with none of the disadvantages.

Here it is.
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/308/superblack.jpg

Hope that helps.

sixgunner455
February 3, 2011, 04:10 AM
The best reason for me to buy one is ?????

We wants it! We wants the precious!






:D

Classified00
February 3, 2011, 07:53 AM
Great info Hatchett!

I'm liking option #3 as well.

;-)

Hillbillyz
February 3, 2011, 03:34 PM
My best reason for buying a new gun is I don't have one of those.

Classified00
February 3, 2011, 03:57 PM
Do that just leaves the question of blues vs. stainless :-p

I assume blued is more authentic (not that I'm shooting for that per se) but stainless is more durable? How is Rugrr's bluing?

Thanks!
:-0

webfox
February 3, 2011, 04:29 PM
The heart wants what the heart wants. There is no reason or excuse.

I love my .44 mag/spcl.

BCRider
February 3, 2011, 05:20 PM
Life is too short to live with questions such as "I wonder what that is like to shoot it and how hard it is to learn to shoot it well?". If it won't prevent you from putting food on the table or paying the mortgage or sending the kids to college then what's the harm in buying a new gun?

We have only so much disposable income to pass around. Some of it goes for things that you and the family do together and some should be spent on the individuals. In your case it's clear where you'd like to spend YOUR allowance... :D

roscoe
February 3, 2011, 05:24 PM
Why the SuperBlackhawk and not the regular Blackhawk? The regular Blackhawk is much lighter to carry or draw and you will never blow it up.

Classified00
February 3, 2011, 06:48 PM
Thanks all !

I ordered a stainless 5.5" SBH. I was expecting to break even on taxes this year but I came out ahead. This is a great way to spend it!

Roscoe,
I want the SBH because of the .44 cartridge.

flipajig
February 3, 2011, 08:55 PM
I have a SBH it took me 30 years to get it but now its mine..
I then picked up a M94 Winchester in 44 mag always wanted a pistol rifle combo becides a
22 LR.
I then picked up a super 14 for my contender in 44 mag
I was also able to work up a load that all 3 will shoot.
Like you I love my 44's

ilmonster
February 3, 2011, 09:35 PM
I have a blued SuperBlackhawk with a 4 5/8" barrel. I only use it to shoot paper indoors during the winter (summer is skeet time). I've shot one cylinder of .44 Mag through it, with the rest being .44 Spcl.'s I reload. From this description, there's no reason I "need" a BlackHawk, but it's a really fun gun to shoot (my only SA). It's got the versatility of both magnum and special loads, is easy to reload, as accurate as it needs to be, and makes really big holes! Just a fun gun. Enjoy yours!

Ohio Gun Guy
February 3, 2011, 09:36 PM
Guns need friends too!

InkEd
February 3, 2011, 09:47 PM
You need the SBH because the 629 is not as strong as the Ruger. You will also need to get a Ruger Super REDhawk because the SBH will be too slow to reload if a PACK of bears attack you.

Classified00
February 4, 2011, 02:05 AM
Hmmm I hadn't considered a pack of bears breaking into my house :-o

One more question:
I've read a few things about changing out the springs for Wolf's. Is there a consensus about which strength ?

Thanks !

sixgunner455
February 4, 2011, 12:05 PM
Only change things if you find that you don't like something about the way it comes from the factory. The world is full of people with opinions. IMHO, there is no reason to change up things on a gun until you have shot it enough to know what you would like about it to be different, especially not because of what someone else said about their gun.

9mm+
February 4, 2011, 01:01 PM
Owning more than one firearm is seldomly rational, so don't fight it. Just give in to the Dark Side and have some fun. :)

I recently bought the Ruger Alaskan and couldn't be happier with it. If you're looking for a 44 that is a bit different, you may want to try the Alaskan. It's some hefty weaponry and very fun to shoot.

pdawg.shooter
February 4, 2011, 02:16 PM
If you get a new Ruger, be sure to get their return address, you will need it more than once. As a dealer I came to hate selling a Ruger, I knew I was going to have a mad customer.

9mm+
February 4, 2011, 02:46 PM
If you get a new Ruger, be sure to get their return address, you will need it more than once. As a dealer I came to hate selling a Ruger, I knew I was going to have a mad customer.

Hmmm, pdawg, that has not been my experience at all. I own four different Rugers, from 22LR through 44 magnum (all purchased from different vendors at different times) and have never had to return one of them once for repair or adjustments. Maybe I've been extraordinarily lucky, but my experience with Ruger has been all aces.

Doghandler
February 5, 2011, 05:31 PM
"Why the SuperBlackhawk and not the regular Blackhawk?" ...

Scope ring mounts was my rationalization.

kbbailey
February 5, 2011, 07:57 PM
Because anyone from Texas SHOULD have a single action......(I think it is a law there anyway).

TheGent
February 6, 2011, 07:30 PM
I ended up starting my kick on single actions with a Super Blackhawk. I had to have the 7.5" barrel though. I think the balance is amazing. It was initially an "I just want to have one" gun. So was the Ruger Vaquero I bought a week later. The Vaquero does get CC time being that it's just 5.5" Barrel. The Super Blackhawk is a hunting gun. Love them both and plan on customizing them. They are really easy to take COMPLETELY apart and put back together as well.

pdawg.shooter
February 7, 2011, 10:50 AM
I sent so many Rugers back for repair that I hated selling them. On super redhawk was back 4 times and I ended up fixing it myself just to keep a customer.

9mm+
February 7, 2011, 11:00 AM
I sent so many Rugers back for repair that I hated selling them. On super redhawk was back 4 times and I ended up fixing it myself just to keep a customer.

I don't work for Ruger or have any vested interest in the Sturm Ruger company, but this just doesn't match my personal experience and the experiences of other Ruger owners I know. I have been very, very happy with my Ruger(s) and wouldn't trade them for anything.

johnjohn
February 7, 2011, 11:10 AM
I own 6 Rugers and only 1 has been back for repairs. 71/2 barrel on my SBH turned sight was no longer vertical.

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