CA Dragunov Stock


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M.C.
February 4, 2011, 11:45 AM
I was wondering if it a Dragunov stock classifies as a pistol grip or thumb-hole stock in CA? I saw one on a SKS the other day, but the magazine was fixed, so it would be legal anyway.

Anyone from CA know?

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WardenWolf
February 4, 2011, 12:01 PM
It's considered a pistol grip in states that care about such things. Keep in mind that states like that go out of their way to prohibit everything they can, so if there's any way to interpret it as a pistol grip instead of a thumbhole, they will.

Quiet
February 5, 2011, 11:28 AM
I was wondering if it a Dragunov stock classifies as a pistol grip or thumb-hole stock in CA? I saw one on a SKS the other day, but the magazine was fixed, so it would be legal anyway.

Anyone from CA know?

The "dragunov" style stock is considered a thumbhole stock.

CA DOJ regulation 978.20
The following definitions apply to terms used in the identification of assault weapons pursuant
to Penal Code section 12276.1:
(a) “detachable magazine” means any ammunition feeding device that can be
removed readily from the firearm with neither disassembly of the firearm action
nor use of a tool being required. A bullet or ammunition cartridge is
considered a tool. Ammunition feeding device includes any belted or linked
ammunition, but does not include clips, en bloc clips, or stripper clips that load
cartridges into the magazine.
(b) “flash suppressor” means any device designed, intended, or that functions to
perceptibly reduce or redirect muzzle flash from the shooter’s field of vision.
(c) “forward pistol grip” means a grip that allows for a pistol style grasp forward
of the trigger.
(d) "pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon”
means a grip that allows for a pistol style grasp in which the web of the trigger
hand (between the thumb and index finger) can be placed below the top of the
exposed portion of the trigger while firing.
(e) “thumbhole stock” means a stock with a hole that allows the thumb of the
trigger hand to penetrate into or through the stock while firing.

WardenWolf
February 5, 2011, 03:14 PM
No, it is considered a pistol grip. It meets both definitions, and is thus treated as the more "evil" of the two. A MAK-90 stock would be considered a thumbhole. A full Dragunov stock would be considered a pistol grip. Generally, if it's ambidextrous, it's a pistol grip.

Berg
February 19, 2011, 12:51 AM
Calif. makes no distinction between a thumbhole and pistol grip stock, as far as regulations are concerned. Both are considered the same (a.k.a extra evil).
If you must have that kind of stock you can fill in the thumbhole with a permanent block and it is then considered a regular monte carlo style stock. Many Calif. owners have done this to keep their centerfire rifles compliant.

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