Inherited Handguns from My Gun Collector Dad


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oldestdaughter
February 4, 2011, 04:29 PM
I lost my precious Dad nine months ago. He lived in Alaska and his picture could be on any outdoor magazine and be appropriate. He loved land, guns, nature, animals and freedome to enjoy all of it. My greatest regret at this moment, is not appreciating his knowledge, keen sense for a great gun, a great deal. I am the oldest of five girls. Do not recall life without a gun in my hand, but as life would have it, I became busy. My Dad left a ton of guns, and by process of not being greedy, I inherited what was left after the others chose theirs. I would love to know more about the following guns as I intend to type up their story and put them in my new safe for my children, in memory of Grandpa.

Thank you so much for any input.... I go online, but the info is too much.

Colt Single Action 45N.P.
1 Smith Wesson 22 Long Rifle
1 Ruger 44 Special Custom
1 Colt Single Action, New Frontier (44S),
1 S&W Model 18, Ivorys
1 S&W Model 29, 44MA9
1 S&W 38 Special Model 14,
1 German Luger 30 Cal, DW95
1 S&W Model 41 Extra Barrel

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cpirtle
February 4, 2011, 04:57 PM
Cherish those guns. I lost my dad when he was only 59. All of my life he told me his guns would be mine when he was gone, but I never looked forward to that day. When it happened family members were asking for "a gun" and by the time it was over I had a couple left. Only two of them were truly special to me one of which I got and the other went to my sister.

With your dads buns there's not a bad one in the bunch and some of them will be worth a significant price so they should be protected and insured. Don't store them in a zip up lined pouch or in their holsters if they have them. You can go to the sporting goods store to get silicone impregnated gun sleeves for about $5 which work well but I feel the best bet if you have room is upright in a wire pistol rack, in a humidity controlled safe. None of this is too elaborate or expensive, a 4 pistol wire rack is about $30 and a large dessicant pack about $15.

You have a list of some great guns there but most of them will need a little more information posted and pictures if you can. The Model 41 Smith is a highly desireable gun and is the cadillac of .22 pistols. I use mine for hunting and plinking but they are just as well suited for local pistol leagues.

Any Colt Single Action revolver is worth a lot of money and can be anything from brand new to over 100 years old. They are fantastic pistols and worth anywhere from $600 to $30,000+.

The Model 18, 29 & 14 are some of the best revolvers ever made, value will be based on condition and age will be based on serial number.

I'm most intrigued by the Smith 22 long rifle. You can have anything there from a great pistol to the holy grail of revolver collectors, very hard to say based on what you provided.

Sorry to here about your loss, preserving your dad's legacy is one of the best ways you can stay close to him.

SaxonPig
February 4, 2011, 05:20 PM
Not enough info for detailed analysis. There are various "S&W 22s" and is it a Model 29-2 or 29-3 or some other? Barrel lengths affect value as does age.

All sound like good quality guns.

Colt Smith
February 4, 2011, 06:39 PM
Very sorry to hear about your loss. If that list is what was left after the others took the good stuff I wonder what pieces they chose. You have some nice guns there. The details about the specific models or their monetary value is not so important. They were a piece of your dad. Symbols of the ideals he believed in and the way he lived his life. They should be preserved well and treated with the respect and affection your dad probably had for them. My dad is still with me and I tease him all the time about getting his guns when he goes. But he knows I could buy any or all of the guns he has now for myself if I wanted. But my dad and I share a lot of the same ideas about a great many things, one of which is an interest in and respect for firearms. I love my dad dearly. When the sad day comes that I lose him, the guns he leaves me will only be a reminder to me of what a truly great man and dear friend he was to me.

Jim Watson
February 4, 2011, 06:45 PM
My condolences for the passing of your Father.

I intend to type up their story and put them in my new safe for my children,

This is a common sentiment, but I will say that most of those are high quality guns and you and the kids could shoot them regularly and still not wear them out. Which I would think a better memorial than just shutting them away.

Joe in fla
February 4, 2011, 07:42 PM
My condolences. I went through the same thing a couple of years ago. I inherited all my dad's guns and even though I've been around guns in general for a lot of years I'm still sorting through his stuff and trying to identify some of the unique and collector grade parts and features. Gun value varies widely based not only on the model and condition but also what year it was made, any unusual markings, barrel length, type of sights, types of grips, etc etc etc. Even things like barrel diameter can change the value of a gun. Evaluating a gun can get very complicated. The first thing I'd say is don't refinish or repair anything! You can ruin the value of a gun by refinishing it even though it might be beautiful when it's done. Second, don't let anyone use WD-40 on them. It offers little protection and even that doesn't last long and it can harm the bluing. Go buy a can of gun oil and oil the metal parts down well. Try not to get it on any wood or plastic. I personally like Marvel Mystery oil!! I've used all my life and my father has used it since the early 1940s and it's never failed. You can find it in just about any auto supply store. I also second the suggestion to buy some of the silicon impregnated "gun socks" and store every gun in one. They're keep them rust free longer and will help prevent all the little nicks and dings that they get from handling and you can expect them to get handled a lot as you try to sort things out. Amazon.com sells Allen gun socks for rifles for six for $26. <http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Company-Knit-Sock-52-Inch/dp/B0035LTXUO/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296864474&sr=1-1-fkmr0>. Socks for pistols costs more for some reason. You can also get gun socks at most large sporting good store but Amazon had the best price that I found. After the socks store them in a dry, temperature controlled location. A previous poster made some good suggestions about that.

Also I'd strongly advise you not to sell or lend any of the guns until you truely know what they're worth. There are a LOT of unscrupulous gun dealers out there that will try to take advantage of your lack of knowledge.

There are people out there that can appraise guns but so far I have had very poor luck with them. Most either just look up an approximate value in one of the gun "blue books" and consider the features and condition of the gun OR they low ball you on the estimate then try to buy everything for 1/3 of what it's worth! As I said earlier there are a LOT of unscrupulous dealers out there looking for easy pickings! If you post your approximately location to this forum then someone can probably tell you where you can get an honest appraisal in your area.

If you post some good quality pictures on this site there are plenty of knowledgeable people here that will tell you what you have and give you an idea of what each one is worth.

One last thing, you need to find out what the laws are in your state regarding transferring guns before you sell or give any away. I'm in Florida and I don't think Ga's laws are very different but every state is different. Also don't let some dealer convince you that you can only sell to a dealer or that you have to register the guns. AFIK Ga doesn't require any registration despite what most of our Yankee transplants think. There's a Legal section on this forum and I think it has links to various websites that explain the laws for every state.

Good luck, Let us know if you have more questions.

Radagast
February 4, 2011, 08:40 PM
My condolences, I hope the following info is helpful.

S&W didn't have model numbers until 1957, so no model number means pre 1957. As design changes occurred a -1, -2, -3 etc were added to the model designation, for example, Model 14-1. If there is no -1, etc after the model number, then they are earlier guns.
There is a S&W Date of Birth thread stickied at the top of this sub forum if you would like the approximate age of the S&Ws.

The S&W Model 18 K22 Combat Masterpiece was introduced as the .22 long rifle companion of the .38 Special K38 Combat Masterpiece (Later the Model 15) in 1949 & continued in production until 1985. In excellent condition they seem to bring around $500-$550 at the moment. Mine is my most used firearm at the range. It is built on the medium sized K frame. At the moment S&W are producing the Model 18 again with a MRSP of around a $1000.
The Model 14 K38 Masterpiece was S&Ws .38 Special K frame target revolver, introduced in 1946 & produced until 1982. Normally produced with a six inch barrel, if it has a four inch barrel it may be one of a couple of rare variants.

The .44 Magnum Model 29 was introduced in 1956 and has have several variations, with differing values. The earlier guns up to the Model 29-3 should be shot a little with magnum loads as they wore out quickly. The Model 29-3E and later guns had modifications for durability. You can shoot lower powered .44 specials through the Magnum, if you have an early gun this may be advisable for regular use.

The Model 41 is S&Ws quality .22 target pistol and on my wish list. They are reliable, accurate and well fitted.

The .30 Luger may be a Swiss gun, as the .30 Luger was introduced by Germany in 1898 & replaced by the 9mm luger in 1904. The Swiss continues with the .30 Luger as a standard issue round. A good source of info is here: http://luger.gunboards.com/

If the .22 long rifle S&W revolver is the same size as the Model 14 then you have a K22 Masterpiece, the companion to the Model 14. Prior to 1957 there was no model number designation, so the gun predates that. Depending on the variant it goes from being a desirable collectors and shooters firearm to highly desirable. Pics are needed to ID it.
If it is smaller than the Model 14 or Model 18 then it is a variant of the the .22/.32 Hand Ejector built on the small I frame between 1915 & 1957. Again pics are needed for a positive ID.

I can't help with the Ruger or Colts.

tekarra
February 4, 2011, 08:50 PM
Your father would be proud of you and I hope your children will appreciate the legacy. You are doing a fine thing.

oldestdaughter
February 4, 2011, 09:42 PM
Thanking you again and I plan to learn more.

oldestdaughter
February 4, 2011, 09:46 PM
Sorry I meant the Colt 45.

1KPerDay
February 4, 2011, 10:04 PM
Your dad had good taste. RIP.

Joe in fla
February 4, 2011, 10:10 PM
With a serial number (and model number) someone would probably be able to date most, but not all, manufacturer's guns. There are also a number of websites that have SN vs production date info available. Just search for "Marlin model 97 production date" for example and you should find them quickly. As pointed out above, S&W didn't put model numbers on many of their earlier guns so you may have trouble identifying them but if you post some pictures some here someone can almost certainly tell you the correct model name or number. If you don't feel comfortable posting the complete SN you can just X out the last couple of digits.

There are some good postings on this forum about the best way to clean up neglected guns. You can search for them or someone can probably point them out to you. You MAY be able to clean them up a lot better than you think.

oldestdaughter
February 4, 2011, 10:16 PM
Yes, he had great taste, sorry but he did. He could scope out a deal a mile away. Me I go to a sale and stare blindly.... he was the same way with knives, jewelry etc.,
I have tried with the SN's but I get nowhere. I will take some photos soon just so yall can go oooh and ahhhhh:):) It is almost like an addiction ... at least Dad was like that. I don't recall not having guns under the beds, in drawers etc., just thought as a kid that is the way it was in all folks homes. lol

oldestdaughter
February 4, 2011, 10:22 PM
Thank you

ArchAngelCD
February 4, 2011, 10:42 PM
When you list the serial numbers "xx" out the last two or three numbers so no one will have the real numbers. (can never be too safe)

Sorry you lost your Dad.

oldestdaughter
February 4, 2011, 10:50 PM
Thanks ... I did not know that. I have alot to learn.
I sent what I thought to be one on a PM... I just have to still believe in the basic goodness of folks I guess. Well, I am curious, the Long Rifle SW is K651xxx and the 41 S&W is 217XX So does this help? I am actually saving alot of this info as my 13 year old son is a major gun enthusiast like his grandpa, he can tell you tons about the WWII weapons... so I want to tell him all I can on these precious guns.

Lucky Derby
February 5, 2011, 12:50 AM
I am sorry for your loss. God Bless.

otisrush
February 5, 2011, 01:04 AM
oldestdaughter:

So sorry to hear about your dad. I can very much relate. I grew up with guns and spent a lot of time shooting with my dad and also spending time with him learning about guns. He died about 20 years ago, but my mom didn't want us kids to take them. When she passed away we split them up, and I'm amazed at how having just a few of them provide a really cool connection with the past. And one of the really fun things now is to pass it on to my son. He learned on the Savage .22 single shot bolt action that my dad taught me on.

Enjoy them and enjoy the connection they give you to your dad and your memories with him.

OR

Gord
February 5, 2011, 01:15 AM
My condolences for the loss of your Dad. Glad his guns went to someone who will appreciate and cherish them instead of viewing them as "just stuff," or worse, as distasteful things to be sold, given away or destroyed.

cpirtle
February 5, 2011, 02:31 AM
oldestdoughter, I just replied to your PM, looks like you figured that out as well ;)

Just for the record, I'm not advising you get prices for resale, you need to know what you have for insurance and just to know. More on that in my PM.

As for the mystery 22, it's a 1965 Model 17 - very nice gun!

I also second the advice on replacing the last 2 digits of the SN with xx if you post them, don't need some scumbag pouring out of the woodwork saying one of them was stolen from him 20 years ago.

leadcounsel
February 5, 2011, 10:09 AM
Sorry for your loss. I have nothing much to add to the above, except a $4 Walmart style white plastic coated dish rack works perfectly for storing handguns vertically in a small space. I use them in my safe and they are just perfect and inexpensive.

OldCavSoldier
February 5, 2011, 03:31 PM
You are the living evidence that your father did a great job raising you!

lawboy
February 5, 2011, 03:57 PM
Sorry about your loss.
On the S&Ws, contact the manufacturer, for a small fee they will send you a letter authenticating the each gun, date of manufacturer, date of shipping and to whom it originally shipped from the factory, and the configuration of the gun when it left the factory, ie., barrel length, type of finish, any options, etc.
I believe Colt will do the same. The letters are worth several times what you pay for them down the road.
Also, get on amazon.com and purchase the second and third editions of The Standard Catalog of S&W by Supica and Nahas. These reference books will teach you a tremendous amount about the guns.
Finally, on the S&Ws, the definitive internet boards are found at www.smith-wessonforum.com.

Jaymo
February 5, 2011, 04:07 PM
Here in GA, you can sell any of your guns to any private individual you want. You don't have to go through a gun dealer. A dealer is just going to screw you out of money in order to maximize his profits.
There is no registration in GA, so don't get conned by anyone who claims there is. GA is one of the best states for gun owners, IF we can keep liberal transplants out of the state government. We don't need to be another Chicago or New England.

19&41
February 5, 2011, 08:06 PM
Visit some of the gun shows here and go to the book tables and look at the ones that concern themselves with the firearms you own. Also get on the internet ant find the specific forums for each. Each good forum will have their resident experts that can answer questions in detail. Take pictures of each of your firearms, close ups, and show serials and identifying features. Store them to a cd-rom and store in a safe place (not with your guns) to provide identification in the event of theft. Remove those photo files from your computer, though. Cherish and enjoy your legacy.

oldestdaughter
February 6, 2011, 05:35 PM
You guys know your stuff on here. I am impressed. Well, I have been typing up all this info and if I had the energy would pull out some long guns that are likely not valuable but go back to my great grandfather. My grandfather was born in 1901. However, they have rusted some and plan to really research getting the rust off. Ordered a bunch of gun socks, Cabelas.... never heard of such and went to wal mart today and have dish drainers...lol I am curious of the purpose of the upright position?

ArchAngelCD
February 7, 2011, 02:26 AM
As for that rust... DO NOT use a wire brush or anything else that will harm the finish of the guns. They are more valuable with the "patina" intact than clean. If it's surface rust that needs to be removed that can be done fairly easily. But a good gun oil like Remington Gun Oil and buy some 0000 Steel Wool. Drench the Steel Wool with gun oil and lightly rub the effected areas of rust. You will be able to feel when the rust is gone and you are rubbing the barrel. It will feel very smooth under the Steel Wool, then STOP. Do that to all the rusted areas, wipe the gun clean and then apply a light coat of fresh Gun Oil, wiping off the excess. That should put your guns in good shape without doing damage to the value.

Take is slow and allow your 13 year old to help. It will help him feel like he's invested in those guns that Grandpa left...

oldestdaughter
February 7, 2011, 07:51 AM
I appreciate all of he advice and am printing it and will use it. In regards to gun shows, I really regret not going in more with Dad. Last year I should have realized when he was too sick to go to a local gun show it was bad.
In regards to writing smith and wesson, I like the idea alot, will google for more, but I am unsure where to do this at.

In regards to cleaning, thank you so much. Yes, my son is so excited about helping me. He is a chip off the old block, like dad, prancing around in prone position or weaver stance...lol ready to get a deer or whatever moves. lol He has a natural talent with a rifle, pistol and bow. He was taught by the best on the guns, ... grandpa.

Going to pick up the guns Saturday and bring them to their knew home. It is a long drive and they have come a long way already. I hope Dad can know that they will be well cared for and cherished. I also found out, he shot them alot, enjoyed them. They are also in pefect condition according to the dealer who received them.

Thank you all again,
Jeannie

19&41
February 7, 2011, 09:16 AM
The dish drainers hold the pistols upright and separate so you can store more of them in a smaller space, with a light coat of oil. Many do not like to store pistols in a gun rug type of case, as they can absorb the oil from your pistols.

ArchAngelCD
February 7, 2011, 05:09 PM
Jeannie,
I'm sure everyone here is happy to help you. We are all gun lovers and would jump to help another gun lover.

Don't make a stranger of yourself around here. I've been here for a lot of years and still manage to learn something new almost every day.

BADSBSNF81
February 7, 2011, 08:43 PM
If the S&W Model 18 has real Ivory grips, they are worth 300-500 USD on their own. You can request a letter from S&W, cost is @50 USD to see if it left the factory with them. Go here for more information:

http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson2/upload/other/LOA.pdf

Colt letters run from 75 USD and up depenidng on specifics. Go here for more information:

http://www.coltsmfg.com/Portals/0/misc/Archive%20Services%20Price%20List%202010.pdf

cpirtle
February 8, 2011, 12:42 AM
The dish drainers hold the pistols upright and separate so you can store more of them in a smaller space, with a light coat of oil. Many do not like to store pistols in a gun rug type of case, as they can absorb the oil from your pistols.

Also, zip up cases, especially with wool liners, trap moisture and will rust a gun shut with enough time. I've seen many beautiful gun or rifle destroyed from being stored long term in a zip up padded case.

Storing the guns upright is along the same lines, if you lay them on their side they will trap moisture between the gun and what they are laying on (usually a foam & felt padded surface. Storing the upright allows air to circulate around them and allows for no trapped moisture.

I can't tell you how many 40 year old revolvers I have bought cheap because they were stored for 38 years sitting on their side in a night stand or sock drawer. 1/2 the gun is near mint the other half is mising blueing and lightly pitted. They still shoot great though :)

BTW, I love innovative idea's and the one about using a drying rack is awesome!

cpirtle
February 8, 2011, 12:47 AM
PS: If you go to a gun show do yourself a favor and don't bring any guns with you. You'll be swarmed buy people offering you half of what it's worth. If you do bring a gun to fit a holster or something, have it checked at the door and keep it out of sight until you get to a holster you want to try.

Barkoff
February 8, 2011, 01:42 AM
I'm very sorry for the loss of your dad. I myself have three daughters, but I'm already obsessed with dating and setting the value on my firearms so they will know what they have when I head off.

In regards to cleaning, thank you so much. Yes, my son is so excited about helping me. He is a chip off the old block, like dad, prancing around in prone position or weaver stance...lol ready to get a deer or whatever moves. lol He has a natural talent with a rifle, pistol and bow. He was taught by the best on the guns, ... grandpa.

That's great, what a wonderful way to do something constructive and educational for both of you, and bring you even closer to gramps.

LightningMan
February 9, 2011, 07:23 AM
Oldestdaughter, if you are driving to Alaska to pick up your Dads guns, you must be going through Canada, so you should check the laws reguarding transportation of such firearms through Canada, as they can be a bit sticky. If this is not the case, never mind. LM

oldestdaughter
February 11, 2011, 04:03 PM
Well, I have to wait two more weeks to get the handguns. Long story but it is life, I have a busy one and they are in good hands for sure. However, under my bed I had these, and one was under Dad's bed. Not sure if yall want to see rifles. Some are new I think and some may be worthless, not sure. Value is not always monetary for sure. Well here goes.

First the info on the guns: I can hardly see these days :)
Stevens, 22 short long or long rifle only as automatic (these are the specific words) Springfield, U.S. Stevens arm co. Model 85 patents 20945xx 22247xx 22230xx RE225xx 22715xx
This was my grandfathers so it interests me alot. I even found the tape that said Pawdee on it (what we called him and remember Dad last year making a point to make sure I knew who it belonged too)

The stainless S&W was wrapped in a t shirt under in Dad's trunk-30 (I think... CTG long 356xxx

One of the rifles has a monogram ERA made in brazil ?? go figure, 654xxx

oldestdaughter
February 11, 2011, 04:06 PM
It appears I can only do two photos at a time.... so here goes

oldestdaughter
February 11, 2011, 04:11 PM
I wish I was not a child of the 80s... bear with me.

oldestdaughter
February 11, 2011, 04:15 PM
I can't even remember which ones I submitted. Thanks for any help you give this crazy gal.

oldestdaughter
February 11, 2011, 04:19 PM
One more, it has Steven Savage Arms Corp Ohioopee Falls Mass Proof tested 20 gauge 2 3/4 inch chamber

Jim Watson
February 11, 2011, 04:37 PM
Some of your pictures remain thumbnails hard to inspect but from what I can tell..

Post #36
Colt Python. Appears in Very Good to Excellent condition, a desirable and high priced gun; say $1000.
Stevens model 85. Very ordinary .22 rifle in Good condition. The markings mean it will shoot .22 long rifle as a semiautomatic and shorts or longs as a manually operated repeater. Not a very important capability any more, shorts and longs are too expensive.

Post #37.
Some sort of Smith & Wesson Hand Ejector, nickel plated, not stainless.

Post #38
Python with box. See above. Is this the same gun or did Dad have more than one of the type? Some people will pay more if it comes with the original box.
Single shot shotgun, probably the Brazilian job you mention. Not real valuable.
Three guns in too small a picture; appear to be a pump action shotgun, a bolt action .22 rifle, and a single shot shotgun, maybe a Stevens.

Post 339
A Python again; looks like the same as in the first post above.

Post #40
There are a lot of Stevens (owned by Savage) shotguns. Is it the single shot in Post #38?

oldestdaughter
February 11, 2011, 05:53 PM
The python is in its original worn box. A good story with this gun as I won many a meals and coolers off of a Colt Python. When I was about 23, I was shooting in all I could, living off of about 7,000 per year and just out of college. Dad handed over the holy grail of accurate guns in my humble opinion. My partner and boss age 64.... well, we totally brought home the bacon. Well, about five years ago, Dad produced this gun. He said, "honey it is not the same gun, but it is special, take care of it" I insured it the next day.

Thanks to all of you gun lovers I am learning the things I should have asked Dad. The photo thing is difficult. I am most interested in the 85 model .... it was special.

Cougfan2
February 11, 2011, 05:58 PM
The Stevens .22 Short, Long, Long Rifle is very similar to my Dad's .22 rifle, the one that I learned how to shoot with. Mine was tube fed rather than magazine, but it was a great rifle. Just meat and potatoes, but brought home lots of squirrels and bunnies. My brother has my Dad's rifle, but I managed to find a good specimen at a gun show. Not Dad's rifle, but it still brings back memories when I look at it. :)

oldestdaughter
February 27, 2011, 08:31 PM
figured it out.

oldestdaughter
February 27, 2011, 08:45 PM
137338

oldestdaughter
February 27, 2011, 08:46 PM
computer gone wild :)

7.62 Nato
February 27, 2011, 08:48 PM
Well, I finally brought the babies home... I am trying to find a way to post them. I sincerely appreciate your input I have them on photo bucket but can't get them here???
Congratulations, I hope you have many years to enjoy using them and remembering your father.

oldestdaughter
February 27, 2011, 08:48 PM
figured it out.

oldestdaughter
February 27, 2011, 08:54 PM
figured it out.

http://s1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff393/oldestdaughter/

I am super interested in the model 14 and 18 as he shot them alot and kept them for years.

Thanks again for everything. I am typing up all information and laminating cards for each gun, their worth, their story and mine, .... meaning how they came to me. I hope that those after me will cherish them like Dad did.

Jenrick
February 27, 2011, 09:00 PM
On preserving them, Renaissance wax is the way to go. It's currently used by most major museums to preserve their metal artifacts. A tub of it will last you quiet a few guns.

-Jenrick

19&41
February 28, 2011, 08:45 AM
I believe on Photo Bucket, you bring up the picture you want to post. There should be a list of links with it. Pick the link for embedding, or the one for forums. Left click on the link to highlight it, the right click it and click copy from the list that shows up. Then come back to this site, click post reply. type a message, and with the arrow on the block where the message is typed, right click and click paste from the list that shows up. Now before you post the message, click preview and look at the reply. If it is right, press post reply. Good luck.

oldestdaughter
February 28, 2011, 08:57 AM
thank you, will order some today. Dad has most in their own cases, do I still need gun socks?

oldestdaughter
February 28, 2011, 09:18 AM
I posted a link to my album...they are all there. Thanks!

medalguy
February 28, 2011, 11:29 AM
Very sorry to read of your dad's passing. Keep his memory close to your heart, as I'm sure you will.

Just a note to all the members of this board: Guys, this is the #1 reason to list all your guns for your family. What you have, make and model, caliber, notes about condition, barrel length, accessories, and so forth, and ESPECIALLY THE VALUE!! I have done all this, as well as notes about which child should get which guns. It's difficult for our families to figure all this out after we're gone.

Do something nice for your family, and take some time very soon to list everything in your collection.

oldestdaughter
March 1, 2011, 08:24 AM
Amen! It has been a nightmare. We are literally drawing for the long guns as it has caused alot of family conflict. Now I got this up here....come on guys, tell me about the handguns. What is special, not etc., and I will print it out. I am going to make info cards on each. You all are the experts, like Dad. I am interested in the 14 and 18 for some reason I cannot explain.

Ok, experts, I hope I see some emails today :)

sgt127
March 1, 2011, 11:51 AM
The "value" of some guns is very fluid. I believe the engraved Walther PP my dad brought back from Germany after he took over the Walther factory (Uh, not all by himself) has more sentimental value to ME than even its considerable intrinsic value would be to someone else.

And, little subtle differences in guns can have a dramatic affect on thier value. A stamp in a cetain place, an unusual caliber or barrel length, a variation in the finish, the original grips, the percentage of original finish remaining etc. It is almost impossible to definitively put a price tag on almost any gun...they are worth exactly what someone else is willing to pay for that one gun at the moment it happens to be for sale.

That being said, if you start searching Gunbroker or Gunsamerica, you can see what the auctions end at and get a pretty good idea of the value of that particular type of gun in the current marketplace.

I will look over your Photobucket when I get a chance and give you some rough ideas of what they would likely be worth in my opinion, but, thats all it is, a rough idea. Even geographical differences can hugely impact gun prices. California prices are dramatically higher than Texas prices. And, what gun is "hot" right now in the gun market.

Every gun you have on thier, somewhere, there is a collector that collects THAT style of gun, it would be worth more to him. I like Pythons, I own one, but, somewhere there is somebody that has vastly more knowledge of Pythons than I ever dreamed and, may desperatly need "THAT" gun to finish thier collection...To me, if I can find a good deal on a Python, I would pick it up, but, I pass up Pythons all the time...

Best of luck to you. Don't crack under family pressure, I went through this when my mom died and had to send relatives packing, with empty U-Hauls back to the east coast because they pissed me off..

oldestdaughter
March 1, 2011, 12:48 PM
Well, the value is definitely fluid. I am more interested in what makes them special, from a gun collectors eye... is it the age, history, brand, make.... I know, sounds like psychology here. Value is in the eyes of the beholder, ... however, I am going to write up rough estimates, not for sale, but for crazy kids like me, that perhaps they too will wonder.

For instance, the ruger, commercial 1920... I have read on it, and it is pretty rare, I think. It is also a lefty, which is cool. So I will add that to what I have on it. I actually just print some of this stuff out :) You guys on these sites KNOW guns. I am amazed..... Dad was like that.

Thanks again.

Jeannie

ArchAngelCD
March 2, 2011, 02:05 AM
Those are some very nice guns in the photos. I'm glad you have them "home" now.

So, when are you going to shoot them?? We need a range report!

oldestdaughter
March 2, 2011, 07:35 AM
Well, must buy safe and must buy amo :) Then must find time.... It is getting nice here so I plan to take them out in the next couple of weeks. Did you notice anything not mentioned before?

Tusker10mm
March 3, 2011, 11:40 PM
Oldest daughter: So very sorry for your loss. Plenty of good advice has been already given I can only add. Go to the drugstore and buy a old fashion BRISTLE shaving brush ( not the nylon or plastic kind). Go to a local gunstore and buy a can of SHEATH, or nowdays I think it is called "BARRICADE", BY BIRCHWOOD CASEY. A short spray on the brush, then 'dust down' all the firearms reall good. I keep my brushes in a small plasic container, bristles up that Crystal Light came in. Also please see a post here on this. :)

http://www.smithandwessonforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=14874

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