Let's see your Merwin Hulbert Revolvers!


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Oyeboten
February 4, 2011, 06:17 PM
And, please elaborate or explain your example as much as you like, along with the images.

Range Reports? Testimonials? Anything which applies.

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LightningMan
February 4, 2011, 11:29 PM
Wish I could figure out how to post pictures I have on a disk to show them. Just can't figure it out.:confused:

savit260
February 5, 2011, 11:23 AM
Wish I could figure out how to post pictures I have on a disk to show them. Just can't figure it out.

Upload the pics to photobucket.com or a like service.

Then copy and paste the IMG code below the pic, into you reply, and the picture will show up when the reply posts on the forum.

rdrancher
February 5, 2011, 12:10 PM
I was just reading about lawman, John J. Bogard's 3.5" barreled Pocket Army .44-40 in a 2009 Guns of the Old West mag last night. How do these old classics compare in size to a J-frame, K-frame, etc?

Oyeboten
February 5, 2011, 12:47 PM
Here is a listing which shows a couple supposedly original finish, Factory Engraved ones -

http://www.auctionarms.com/Search/DisplayItem.cfm?ItemNum=10160802

( No connection or association to Seller )

I gather most 'MH' Revolvers were NIckled, with Blue seen occasionally.


I do not have one yet to compare to similar size Colts or S & Ws, but, I imagine the 44 or 44-40 Chamberings, were likely about the size of an S & W 'N-Frame'.

Jim Watson
February 5, 2011, 12:50 PM
The Pocket Army is a rather big gun, at least the size of a Colt Sheriff's Model.
Pockets were bigger in the 19th Century.

rdrancher
February 5, 2011, 02:25 PM
Thanks. I figured they were on the large size, just never saw one "in hand."

Jaymo
February 5, 2011, 05:04 PM
The front pockets on my new uniform pants go almost do my knees. I could carry that MH with the long barrel.

Jim K
February 5, 2011, 09:58 PM
Lightning Man, there is no need to use a photo service. Your pictures are on the disc in files, most likely in jpg format.

Once the disc is inserted in your computer, you should know its device name (e:// or whatever). You can either copy the pictures to a directory (My Pictures is the common one) on your hard drive, or upload right from the disc.

To do so, go to reply, then click on GO ADVANCED. When the new screen comes up, type whatever you want and click on MANAGE ATTACHMENTS. Then use BROWSE to locate the picture file, either on your hard drive or on the disc, and it will upload to the site. Once your picture(s) - up to 4 - are uploaded, close the window.

Jim

Jim K
February 5, 2011, 10:01 PM
Just FWIW, I have found that the folks who say they like those revolvers have never used one. IMHO, they are a royal pain in the butt, with the disadvantages of both Colt and S&W and none of the advantages. Maybe that is why they didn't sell well.

Jim

LightningMan
February 5, 2011, 10:59 PM
I cannot get a picture from my disc to transfer to an AOL file for sharing. I get to the point of downloading but it always comes up no pictures were downloaded. My files do not have a http// or whatever in front of them.

Oyeboten
February 6, 2011, 04:10 AM
Just FWIW, I have found that the folks who say they like those revolvers have never used one. IMHO, they are a royal pain in the butt, with the disadvantages of both Colt and S&W and none of the advantages. Maybe that is why they didn't sell well.

Jim


How so Jim?


Were they prone to having parts break? Or..?

RX-178
February 6, 2011, 10:50 AM
The only thing relevant that I have to add...

In El Paso on Yarbrough, there's a restaurant called Rancher's Grill. In a little wall mounted display case by the cashier is the old rusted remains of a Merwin Hulbert revolver. Inside the case is a little plaque that reads:

This gun is the only gun in the southwest that was never owned by Billy the Kid.

cane
February 6, 2011, 12:25 PM
Here's mine, I think it's a 3rd model frontier. The grips are some sort of red composite material, the barrel has been shortened, and there is an old repair to the top strap. It has been renickled and gone over by "The Smith Shop" for proper functing. It's in 44-40 (or as it says .44 Cal Winchester 73).

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/90north/MerwinHulbert001.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/90north/MerwinHulbert007.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/90north/MerwinHulbert006.jpg

Oyeboten
February 7, 2011, 04:06 AM
Hi cane,


Thanks for posting and having the image of you MH.


Do you shoot this one?

1858remington
February 8, 2011, 03:13 AM
I so want someone to make a repro of one of these in 45 colt or 44 special. I love the open top with the "skull crusher" pommel.

aryfrosty
February 8, 2011, 03:39 AM
You might get your wish. You'll find a company now in existance that is taking pre-orders for the modern copies of those revolvers in many calibers including .44spl and .45C. www.merwinhulbertco.com . They are $1250.00 basic price and there are a lot of options listed. If they ever prove up and start delivering actual firearms I intend to buy a couple for CAS shooting. I have heard some disturbing things about them...like the deposit is "non-refundable" and that nobody seems to have seen one come out of the factory. They certainly look good on the sales pitch page.

Oyeboten
February 8, 2011, 04:24 AM
If I understand correctly, the original MH Large Frame Revolvers, came chambered in -


.44 Merwin Hulbert Cartridge, about which I have not been able to find any specifications.

.44 Russian

.44-40, or 44WCF or Winchester 1873 ( all the same Cartridge )


Supposedly, lots of these ( of the .44 Russian Calibre, I would expect ) went to Russia, and, for all we know, are still tucked away in Sock Drawers or whatever over there.


Does anyone know of any places to look up Serial Numbers for the MH Revolvers?

LightningMan
February 8, 2011, 07:11 AM
Oyeboten, As far as I know no parts available as the Company went out of business in 1892 or there abouts. As far as these russian M,H revolvers go, they are probably setting in boxes in some storage building. LM.

451 Detonics
February 8, 2011, 09:10 AM
You might get your wish. You'll find a company now in existance that is taking pre-orders for the modern copies of those revolvers in many calibers including .44spl and .45C. www.merwinhulbertco.com .

They have been taking money for quite a few years and still haven't produced a gun...it is generally accepted that the non-refundable deposit is lost money. If you read through the forum all you will find are excuses why it has not gone onto production yet. They didn't even have a prototype available at the Shot Show, just a lot of talk and pretty pictures.

It would be wonderful if they actually started producing guns but the owner has a horrible track record in the industry.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=563632

DPris
February 8, 2011, 01:12 PM
Email from the new MH yesterday said they're still working on the front ends on the new guns, hope to ship in late March.
Denis

451 Detonics
February 8, 2011, 01:43 PM
Are we taking bets?

I went through their entire site, no where is there a phone number or physical address, I even did the entire ordering process short of giving them a CC number...still no contact info other that a e-mail.

At the Shot Show they had an unmanned booth with some one page flyers available which had 4 CAD drawings in it. There was phone number on it but it wasn't answered and when I tried it I got a "no voice mail box set up" announcement.

Last I heard they didn't even have a factory set up but were hoping to get grant money for start up. Their forum is full of promises of production starting soon...

DPris
February 8, 2011, 03:59 PM
451,
The MH guy is saying MH "parts" were there, locked under glass among their Sharps AR-15 parts, but didn't get there till Thursday (the third day of SHOT).
I went through their area on Tuesday or Wednesday.
He says they had three senior MH people there, lumped in apparently with all five of the "companies" the group is trying to float.

That may possibly be why I saw no MH reps anywhere near the little table where I picked up that flyer.

He says they conduct a bunch of business via email, it provides better communication.
Customers get his phone number & he talks to them.

Just FYI.
Denis

Sniper X
February 8, 2011, 04:45 PM
I am surprised that there is a gun I have never heard of! Although, there are probably hundreds! I can say form the one pic I saw, they are beautiful guns!

cane
February 8, 2011, 05:44 PM
Oyeboten, yes I do, with some very mild loads. I bought it from an elderly gentlemen who told me he had bought it in Mexico many years ago. He thought it was a Winchester revolver due to the caliber markings on it. Not collector grade but has lots of "character" When I bought it, the single action didn't work, I sent it to a smith (now retired) that specialized in "cowboy" pistols, he fixed it, straightened the cylinder pin, and re welded the ring the barrel catches on to drag the cylinder forward.

Oyeboten
February 9, 2011, 04:07 AM
Well, I ended up getting one, this was a unusual deal, as I had wanted to get it, but, was too late, it was already sold, I said "Well, if for some reason it falls through, let me know?" Month or so later, seller writes me and says it fell through, buyer never came up with the dough, so, the good-guy deal to me, if I still wanted it would be xyz ( which was a good guy deal, too )..., and, I said "Woo Hoo!" -

"Russian Model" ( ie: .44 Russian Cartridge )


http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/18391/2097803830067835264S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2097803830067835264bryrBV)



Stocks are not original, Barrel has been shortened...Numbers all match, good Bore, crisp no-slop Action, snug all round, seems like original Nickel.


I will do a Range Report soon as I can get some Cartridges ( 3 F BP of course ) loaded up ( might be a few weeks, no Mold yet, might send off for Bullets though, and, 100 rounds of new unprimed Brass is on it's way...)


Still trying to understand their Model designations ( other then Calibre ).


I think this a 1st Model 'Frontier'...but, not certain...

Oyeboten
February 9, 2011, 04:29 AM
Oyeboten, yes I do, with some very mild loads. I bought it from an elderly gentlemen who told me he had bought it in Mexico many years ago. He thought it was a Winchester revolver due to the caliber markings on it. Not collector grade but has lots of "character" When I bought it, the single action didn't work, I sent it to a smith (now retired) that specialized in "cowboy" pistols, he fixed it, straightened the cylinder pin, and re welded the ring the barrel catches on to drag the cylinder forward.


Hi cane,


You should think about reloading your shells with Black Powder, where, you can go Full Power and, still be within what it was made for.


Black Powder Metallic Cartridge for Revolver is so much nicer to shoot than Smokeless..!

jm4650
March 9, 2011, 11:22 AM
Hi guys, Just found the site. I shoot some of my MHs. The 38s use 38 S&W, 32s 32 S&W sht & longs, & 44-40s & 44 Russian. They are only so-so shooters but how much orig stuff shoots well anyway? Barrels have changed sizes etc. Use only BP in the 44s along with the assorted fouling problems. Also have used converted casings w/shotgun primers & wax bullets. MHs shoot as well as my orig S&W 44 Russ topbreak. Looking for any original parts & pieces for them. Worked w/Art Phelps many years ago on his book. I still shoot em & love em. However, If you are seeking trouble free shooting buy a Ruger Vaquero.

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