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CajunMan89
February 4, 2011, 09:33 PM
I found this old Smith & Wesson revolver that was my grandfather's. I'd like to know more about it(caliber etc.) . All i know is that it's a 32.20? and i'm not sure of what that is. the serial number is 128532

any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Radagast
February 4, 2011, 09:51 PM
.32-20 Hand Ejector Model of 1905 4th Change manufactured between 1915 & 1940 in the serial range 65701 to 144684.
Built on the K frame, your gun has a heat treated cylinder so it is safe to shoot with lead loads. Check for a bulge in the barrel, many owners made the mistake of shooting the rifle only hi-speed loads through these guns. The jacket would strip off in the barrel and the next round fired would bulge the barrel.
Your gun predates the current positive internal hammer block safety introduced during World War II. If dropped it could fire, so leave the chamber under the hammer empty.

CajunMan89
February 4, 2011, 10:34 PM
it looks just like the one found on this page

http://www.auctionarms.com/closed/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=8974840.0

so, it would be identified as you stated, a .32-20 Hand Ejector 1905 Model? 4th Change? i don' know much about guns, so please bare with me.

CajunMan89
February 7, 2011, 07:17 PM
I need additional info on my Smith & Wesson revolver (year, what it's called, caliber). All i know is that the serial number is 128532 and it's a 32-20, is that the caliber?

a pic of a similar gun can be found on this page www.auctionarms.com/closed/di...mnum=8974840.0

XxWINxX94
February 7, 2011, 07:41 PM
Hand Ejector Model of 1905 4th Change
That is the model/what its called. Smith & Wesson did not have specific numbered models before 1957.
The caliber is .32-20 Winchester and you would shoot .32-20 Winchester in it. This ammo is only common with cowboy action shooting and can be hard to come by/expensive.

CajunMan89
February 7, 2011, 08:48 PM
Any idea what year it was manufactured by the serial number?

CajunMan89
February 7, 2011, 09:01 PM
or maybe 1905 is the year of manufacture?

BADSBSNF81
February 7, 2011, 09:31 PM
A call to S&W will get you a date on when it left the factory.

CajunMan89
February 7, 2011, 09:37 PM
I did see that they charge to send a history report on the guns; $50, according to their website. Could they really give me the right info. over the phone?

Iggy
February 7, 2011, 09:44 PM
Radagast pin pointed about as well as can be done without the $50.00 letter in post #2. Your 12XXXX gun would have be shipped late in the period of production, maybe even the last year.

Radagast
February 8, 2011, 02:40 AM
Cajunman89:
No, they couldn't give you the date over the phone as the records from the 1930s are still on paper and are no longer maintained by S&W. For $50 Roy Jinks the factory historian will go back through the original paper shipping records by hand until he finds your gun, hence the $50 charge.
Prior to World War I the .32-20 was shipping at a rate of about 4000 guns a year. Allowing for the effects of the great depression on sales, my guess is late 1920s to early 1930s.

CajunMan89
February 9, 2011, 10:42 PM
Thank you all for the help. Is there any website that would have the owner's manual for this gun that I could print online?

BADSBSNF81
February 10, 2011, 11:36 PM
Go to the S&W website and you can download a current revolver manual. Stay away from removing the sideplate or cylinder. Leave that to a good gunsmith if it ever has to be done.

Here is a link to a Model 10 manual.

http://stevespages.com/pdf/s&w_10.pdf

Radagast
February 11, 2011, 07:13 AM
Be aware that there have been some 17 design changes since your gun was produced, so the modern S&W parts list will not match. The action is not the same. I'd leave working on it to a gunsmith with experience with pre-WWII S&Ws.

CajunMan89
February 11, 2011, 08:28 AM
All i'm doing with the guns is putting them in a display case. i wanted to know as much about them as oossible to put lables inside with them. back in '98, a gun smith worked on the smith & wesson and all he did was put like a black primer on it.......all he did was depreciate the value......

CajunMan89
March 3, 2011, 11:08 PM
what would be the closest manual to download for this gun?

CajunMan89
January 17, 2013, 01:21 PM
Cajunman89:
No, they couldn't give you the date over the phone as the records from the 1930s are still on paper and are no longer maintained by S&W. For $50 Roy Jinks the factory historian will go back through the original paper shipping records by hand until he finds your gun, hence the $50 charge.
Prior to World War I the .32-20 was shipping at a rate of about 4000 guns a year. Allowing for the effects of the great depression on sales, my guess is late 1920s to early 1930s.
I didn't think to list them, but would listing the patent dates on the barrel help with getting a more accurate date of manufacture? If not, I'll just have an archive letter done.

Guillermo
January 17, 2013, 02:12 PM
the standard catalog shows that serial number being a 1st change

Of course, as they have some incorrect info so do not take this as fact

Radagast
January 17, 2013, 03:29 PM
Nope. They would simply show it to be a 4th change variant, which we already know from the serial range.
I would pick it to be from the mid 1920s. Over a 13 month period in 1923-24 dome 15000 guns shipped, reaching serial number 125183. If I had to guess I would say 1924 or 1925.

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