6.5 Grendel question


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cmdc
February 5, 2011, 04:34 PM
Can you guys tell me if it is worth it to get an upper for one of my ARs, and if so, which one. I started the pig rifle thread about using my .308 DPMS AP4, and got great input, and it got me thinking about the 6.5. I have a rifle in 6.5x55. I really like that caliber.

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cmdc
February 5, 2011, 04:36 PM
I realize the "worth it" statement is totally relative. I guess what I really want is input, advice, etc.

Thanks

kludge
February 5, 2011, 04:56 PM
I guess if it were me I would get a 6.5mm (.260 Rem) upper for the DPMS .308. But of the rounds that will fit in the AR-15, I guess the ones that interest me the most would be the 6.5 Grendel and the .25 WSSM. The .25 WSSM is a near ballistic twin of the .25-06 and would overshadow the performance of the 6.5 Grendel.

In bolt action rifles though, the .243 WSSM is might be the WSSM with the brightest future.

If you like the 6.5 you could always do a 6.5 WSSM wildcat, just neck up the WSSM brass a hair and you'd have a duplicate of the .260 Rem in an AR-15... maybe... if you can get the bullets to fit... though I'm not real sure what the advantage of a 6.5 WSSM would be over a .25 WSSM or a .243 WSSM.

longdayjake
February 5, 2011, 05:22 PM
I used a 6.5 grendel to take a cow elk this last year. I used the 100 grain barnes at 2800 fps at the muzzle from a 20" barrel. I am convinced that the 6.5 is the most fun to load for long range and it works great for hunting as well. If you are going to use it for hunting then you will be well pleased at how it performs. I own both the 6.5 and 6.8 and I slightly prefer the 6.5 for my needs.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee232/longdayjake/elk.jpg

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee232/longdayjake/bullets008.jpg

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee232/longdayjake/bullets007.jpg

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee232/longdayjake/bullets006.jpg

And a little rock chuck murder as well.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee232/longdayjake/6360_1193907208571_1255148157_30557.jpg

cmdc
February 5, 2011, 06:17 PM
Very impressive. What twist-rate is best. I wanna do this right. When I bought my Savage 7-08 I didn't discover until after-the-fact that it had a less-than-desirable twist-rate, though it does shoot OK.

TIMC
February 5, 2011, 08:47 PM
I have the "Entry" rifle with a designated AA lower. I haven't taken a deer with it yet but it has downed a few pigs and a couple of varmints. I am running heavy on my bullet weights with 129 grain V-max bullets and have achieved outstanding accuracy. My farthest shot with it so far was a coyote taken at just over 250 yards.
Ammo is a little hard to get ahold of but loading components are available.
Here is mine...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/Hunting%20pics/BobcatJan082010.jpg?t=1296956474
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/Hunting%20pics/pigJan082010.jpg?t=1296956517
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/Hunting%20pics/PigJanuary21Grendel.jpg?t=1296956553

I have been playing around with stocks and optic configurations on my Grendel, here is how she looks right now with the Burris laser scope and PRS stock. I am thinking about changing optics again and going to a Leupold VX3 LR scope.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/Grendelwithlaserscope.jpg?t=1296956727

cmdc
February 5, 2011, 11:51 PM
It obviously does a number on hogs. And bobcats. What does it weigh in that setup?

cmdc
February 5, 2011, 11:54 PM
I have two stags, a 6L and an 8L, and a DPMS. Any recommendations for an upper?

cmdc
February 5, 2011, 11:55 PM
Nice Jeep by the way.

madcratebuilder
February 6, 2011, 06:01 AM
The 6.5G is taking off with several new manufacturers, ammo is in stock at several venders, Hornady and Wolf Gold. I read a lot of 18" owners are very impressed with the range of their rifles.

I have a 24" Overwacth that I'm thinking of cutting down to 20"

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/65Grendel/Aarms01.jpg

TIMC
February 6, 2011, 09:46 AM
It obviously does a number on hogs. And bobcats. What does it weigh in that setup?

Weight as she is setup now is 11.8 pounds, The Burris laser scope is very heavy compared to most optics. I don't mind the weight since I do not stalk hunt and the heavier weight makes for a good stable shooting platform.

Nice Jeep by the way.

Thank you! She is my little hunting buggy...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/timc/Non%20Gun%20pics/jeepinhuntingclothes.jpg?t=1297003549

TIMC
February 6, 2011, 09:50 AM
I have two stags, a 6L and an 8L, and a DPMS. Any recommendations for an upper?

My upper is the "Entry" model, for a hunter I would reccomend it.

longdayjake
February 6, 2011, 10:51 AM
As far as twist rate goes a 1-8" twist will throw bullets up to 140 grains.

A 1-9" will throw most up to 130 grainers.

Mine is a 1-9" twist.

jkingrph
February 6, 2011, 11:04 AM
I have one in very similar configuratiion, 24" AA Overwatch upper, Magpul PRS stock. Scope on mine is a Leupold 6x18 AR in Bobro detachable mount. Harris med bipod. It weighs just at 12 lb.

More of a set up and shoot type rifle, not a carry around or stalking rifle.

cmdc
February 6, 2011, 11:33 AM
Thanks, gentlemen. I'm gonna start a build. I'll let you know how it goes.

cmdc
February 6, 2011, 11:36 AM
TIMC, is the "entry" rifle a brand name? Where would I find one? Looks to be working for you.

TIMC
February 6, 2011, 10:12 PM
They are available from A.A. http://alexanderarms.com/item/10/30/65GrendelEntryCompleteUpperAssembly.htm
I don't know if they have them in stock but it is where I bought mine.

cmdc
February 7, 2011, 12:11 PM
Thanks. I went to the AA site and found it. Do you think the Shilen barrel is worth the price or is the std barrel OK?

TIMC
February 7, 2011, 03:56 PM
Thanks. I went to the AA site and found it. Do you think the Shilen barrel is worth the price or is the std barrel OK?

Not for a hunter; depending on how steady I am on any given day I am running 10 round groups off the bench between .5" and 1.0" at 100 yards with my hand loads and the standard barrel.

If I was going for a match rifle in 24" barrel configuration I would opt for the Shilen barrel.

cmdc
February 7, 2011, 05:08 PM
Thanks. Now I'm going to forge ahead and see if AA has them in stock.

longdayjake
February 7, 2011, 05:33 PM
You might try Black Hole Weaponry. The don't have much of a name in the business yet but they seem to be accurate enough and they are sold at a reasonable price.

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