S&W Model 10 +P Capable


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usmcr(ret)81
February 5, 2011, 04:56 PM
Is a 1960's era Smith and Wesson Model 10 .38 Special capable of handling +P loads?

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MIL-DOT
February 5, 2011, 05:15 PM
This subject comes up pretty frequently, and the consensus seems to be that you're fine shooting +P's in modern Smith's, though many will recommend you don't shoot them exclusively.

Guillermo
February 5, 2011, 05:24 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=7017549#post7017549

FYI

some stats for you, I think SaxonPig got them from Speer

Before 1974
Standard pressure 158 LRN grain factory load were rated at 855 FPS.
The Hi-Speed load were rated at 1,090 FPS.

These days 158 grain load are rated at 755 FPS.
The +P are rated at 890 FPS.

Nomad
February 5, 2011, 07:08 PM
I'd call Smith & Wesson just to be sure.

Guillermo
February 5, 2011, 07:16 PM
I'd call Smith & Wesson just to be sure

Calling any manufacturer on such a subjects is a fruitless endeavor as they are more concerned with liability than reality.

Call GM and ask if a ZR1 is safe to drive at 80 MPH and they will say "no"

murf
February 5, 2011, 07:27 PM
since there were no "+p" 38spl loads back in 1960, there is no real answer to your question. i would keep your ammo at regular 38spl levels.

murf

Guillermo
February 5, 2011, 07:30 PM
there were no "+p" 38spl loads back in 1960

true...regular ammo was about the same pressure as today's "+P"

oldbear
February 5, 2011, 07:43 PM
Is a 1960's era Smith and Wesson Model 10 .38 Special capable of handling +P loads?

YES!

roaddog28
February 5, 2011, 09:17 PM
Hi,
+P 38 special is more of a marketing hype by ammo makers. True is most +P 38 specials are what standard pressure was 15 to 20 years ago. Any S&W that has a model number stamped in the frame and is in good condition will handle +P. Heck, I shoot +P in a SW M&P 38 special that was made in 1954. I have no issues. As with all handguns you need to clean the revolver after each range session and pay attention to the forcing cone. Your model 10 is fine shooting +P.
Howard

SaxonPig
February 5, 2011, 11:11 PM
+P is loaded well below maximum allowable chamber pressure.

It is NOT a high performance load.

Elmer
February 6, 2011, 03:27 AM
since there were no "+p" 38spl loads back in 1960, there is no real answer to your question. i would keep your ammo at regular 38spl levels.

murf


The vast majority of the revolvers in service after +P came out, were 60's and older. My department's model 10's were largely 1950's vintage. They handled +P and +P+ just fine.

CajunBass
February 6, 2011, 08:23 AM
P+ is to ammo what spoilers are to Honda Civics. They neither one really do anything.

earlthegoat2
February 6, 2011, 09:14 AM
Older guns are fine with +P as has been noted by several members here with long histories of working with S&W revolvers.

+P is a term used today for what was once standard ammunition. A term and an ammo manufacturing change that happened only a little while ago. It is convenient for gun companies today so they can make their revolvers weaker and thus less expensively and then they can "rate" them as bing able to take +P.

This is yet another reason why I dont buy new guns.

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