Most Accurate .308 Bullet?


Welding Rod
February 6, 2011, 11:41 PM
What is likely to be one of the most accurate mainstream production bullets I can buy in .308?

My purpose is punching paper out to 300 yards, so a super high BC isn't really essential.

Cartridge will be .308 Winchester shot out of a Ruger Hawkeye Standard model.

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February 6, 2011, 11:47 PM
Try 168gr A-Max on top of 44.4 grains of Varget in a Winchester case and primer.

February 7, 2011, 12:04 AM
For target, a 168 grain Nosler, Sierra or Berger match bullet should work well.

February 7, 2011, 12:55 AM
I like the 168gr Sierra or Hornady Match bullets equally well. Both perform well in all of my rifles. (as do their 165gr hunting bullets)

February 7, 2011, 01:12 AM
Sierra 168 gr Matchking is the best I've ever worked with.

February 7, 2011, 06:23 AM
I agree with medalguy, Sierra 168 grain Matchking for 1 in 11" or 1 in 12" twist .308 Win.

Friendly, Don't Fire!
February 7, 2011, 06:49 AM
All guns are different. You could take ten brand new guns off the assembly line (all with consecutive SN's) and shoot all of them and what one gun may shoot extremely well, the other nine may shoot poorly. What bullets and loads work for one person does not necessarily work for everyone. If it did, we wouldn't need so many different loads listed in the reloading manuals.

But they don't all shoot the same, that's what "working up a load" is for!

February 7, 2011, 06:53 AM
168 gr MatchKing or 178 gr AMax.

fallout mike
February 7, 2011, 06:58 AM
Would those recommendations change if you were shooting 800 yards?

February 7, 2011, 08:18 AM
175 SMK for me and my R700 AAC and my DMPS SASS... Both are 1:10 twist though

February 7, 2011, 09:37 AM
Would those recommendations change if you were shooting 800 yards?

No sir. I shoot those at 600 and 1K.

February 7, 2011, 11:37 AM
Through a 24" 1:11.25 5R barrel, I've had the best results with 155gr AMAX's atop a moderately healthy charge of IMR 4895.

Strangely, my SR-25 performs poorly with Federal GMM, but handloads of either Nosler 168gr BTHPM or 168gr Sierra MatchKings tie for a distant second.

the 167gr Lapua scenars (sp?) could only achieve mediocrity in this particular barrel, and experiments with the combined technology 168's only yielded embarassing targets.

For me, the 155gr AMAX's perform so well, that I don't feel the need to look any further for bullets -- of course stretching the range out a bit could change things...

February 7, 2011, 11:45 AM
For punching paper at 300 yards and less, also look into the lighter MatchKings. 150gr and 135gr.

February 7, 2011, 06:31 PM
Sierra 168MK and Bergers 168VLD I shoot them and won with both. I have found that the Burgers don't like jump, They need to be jammed in the lands to work the best for me..

February 7, 2011, 08:58 PM
The 168 gr Sierra Match King For service rifle matches is tough to beat. Have not used it too much for anything else though...

February 7, 2011, 09:10 PM
+1 for any of the "match grade" 168-grain bullets in .308/7.62

February 8, 2011, 07:45 PM
Well, to every rifle and every shooter his own, but I prefer the 175 grain Sierra Matchking at about 2600 fps, driven by about 43 grains of Reloader 15 out of a Rem 700 with 11.25 twist.

There is also a mental persuasion factor here that each of us experience and make our favorites "our favorites."

February 8, 2011, 08:13 PM
I know a lot of you boattail match guy's will thumb your nose at this, but for 300 yard paper punching try the Sierra 150 gr. flatbase spitzer and a starting charge of 42 grns of IMR 3031 and try working that charge up from there. Let me say also this recipe is for bolt guns. Some shoot good at 42 grns and others take a little more, the load becomes compressed about 43.5 to 44 grns. Got this load from Gunny sarge back in the early 70's he said he never saw a bolt gun that it wouldn't work in. I've loaded in scores of .308's and it work's for sure, you gotta find the sweet spot though.

February 9, 2011, 08:18 PM
I probably have a dozen 308s, and have never got good groups.

The best group I ever got was:
0.75" 3 shot group at 100 yards 110 gr Vmax 2.185" 45 gr IMR4895 ~ 2950 fps 22" barrel

Maybe I should shoot more than 3 groups with a rifle before I give up and put it back in storage, never to go to the range again.

February 9, 2011, 08:23 PM
My go to load for the last year has been 42.1g of RL15 on a 175g SMK, usually got around 0.75" Groups from my R700 AAC, and around 0.9" from my DPMS SASS with the same load. Yesterday I decided I wanted to try some stuff, and loaded up some of the leftover 168g SMKs, and with 42.5g of RL15, I got 0.4" 5shot group. I also tried 42.6g of RL15 on a 175gSMK and got a 0.5"group... I really do think these are the 2 best bullets you can use for 308, along with RL15 being the best powder.

Peter M. Eick
February 12, 2011, 04:44 PM
168 Matchking (Seirra) is best in my SuperMatch.
150 Palma (Seirra) is best in my NationalMatch.

February 12, 2011, 05:47 PM

With a dozen .308's and lousy groups could it possibly be some "operator error"?

Rollis R. Karvellis
February 12, 2011, 06:19 PM
The 168 gn. Sierra, HPBTM, might not be the end all, be all. But it is a good place to start.

February 12, 2011, 10:56 PM
twice I have got .4 in 5 shot groups at 100 yds with 168gr sierra matchkings using 41 gr of H4895 in a rem 700 VLS, mostly I get .6 to 1.1 in groups.

Welding Rod
February 13, 2011, 12:52 PM
Thanks for all the replies.

I bought a box of Hornady .308 168 grain A-Max to try first. I thought I would start with those since I have a Hornady load book, Varget powder on the shelf, and the rifle has 1:10 twist.

Next box I plan to compare the 168 grain Sierra Matchkings, over Varget as well.

February 13, 2011, 08:32 PM
"Most Accurate .308 Bullet?"

It's not that clear-cut but starting with the Hornadys and Sierras is a good move.

February 13, 2011, 09:33 PM
For me it is the Sierra 168 HPBT (Match King). I load this over 42.0 to 44.0gr. of IMR-4064==Works for me..Bill..;)

February 14, 2011, 05:52 PM
With a dozen .308's and lousy groups could it possibly be some "operator error"?

I get very good groups with heavy rifles; 223 33 gr, 6mmBR 65 gr and 257RAI 75gr.

I think the "operator error" has something to do with recoil management.

February 15, 2011, 03:55 PM
From my limited experience, I have had VERY good luck with 168g SMK over Rel 15... and the Sierra Gamekings also shoot pretty darn well for a "hunting" bullet.

Cop Bob
February 15, 2011, 07:14 PM
The 168 Serria Matchking has been around for many years and it has a proven track record. It is definitely a good bullet.

However a few years ago I switched to a 168gr Hornady A-Max. Sweeeeeet !!!

I have several .308's one with a three groove 1-12 Lilja Barrel and it prints a hair over 1/4MOA, it is not a rifle, it is a long range high speed precision drill !!

My factory barreled m-700 easily hold 1/2MOA, I have loaded very little for it, as my Lilja Barreled gun has a tight neck chamber, and I can't swap ammo.

My next move is to go into some serious load development for the factory gun, as I just threw some rounds together for a quick trip to the range and still have a few, just lucked onto something that printed well.

FYI my powder of choice is Varget, the primers are WW lg rifle, the brass Laupua.

Both Barrels are 1-12 twist.

Same bullet works pretty darn well in my Garands too

February 18, 2011, 08:52 AM
every gun is different. I've tried the sierras from 150 up to 175 and the 155s are the most accurate out of my stock savage barrel. I use RE-15 powder and get about 2650 fps from a 20" barrel. 1" at 200 yds

February 18, 2011, 12:44 PM
My rem 308 LOVES the 168g nosler cc on top of 45.1g of varget. 2714fps (10 shot average 13fps variation). Seated to 2.81"oal.

Very good price by the thousand directly from nosler. you really should try a couple different bullets to find what your gun likes best.

Each gun is different and your milage may vary.

February 18, 2011, 04:10 PM
"Most Accurate .308 Bullet?"

It's not that clear-cut but starting with the Hornadys and Sierras is a good move.
If you can get Hornady and Sierra to group well, try some Berger's.

April 4, 2011, 10:02 AM
Wow. Not one person said the Lapua 155 gr. Scenar. Very high B.C. around .500. Great bullet and they are cheaper than Bergers!

April 4, 2011, 10:21 AM
Some of my recent "super accurate" bullets have been Nosler Custom Competition's, 175 Gr. with 43.5 gr of Varget. 5 shot groups of 1/4" @ 100 yards are common.

For a hunting bullet, from the same rifle (remington 700 SS 5-R Milspec) a Nosler 165 gr Ballistic Tip yields almost the same group size with 44 grains of Varget.

For some reason this rifle likes speeds between 2500 fps and 2600 fps.

April 4, 2011, 10:35 AM
I would stick to the Noslers B tips or A-Max but give some others a try and se if you can improve.My experience with .308 has done best with the Noslers for accurate shots at longer distances.Will be gald to hear what you find with the others in "your gun". they all seem to shoot one bullet better than another even in the same model firearms.

April 4, 2011, 11:28 AM
168gr SMK is the only bullet i have experience with but it was damn accurate for me.

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