Building an M1-Garand


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elnica1
February 8, 2011, 04:33 AM
I just got an old M1 Garand barreled receiver (new Fulton Armory barrel) and this will be my first time putting one together. I have a few questions.

The receiver is from 1951.


Is it OK to use a milled trigger guard with the loop?
I'll be buying the trigger group from Fulton Armory. Would you recommend the National Match modification?
http://fulton-armory.com/triggergroupcompletewmilledguardandnmmodification.aspx
Will any Garand bolt work?

I am going to send the trigger group to DGR Guns to have a stock made.

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P-32
February 8, 2011, 06:44 AM
You are going to have a really expensive M-1 when you get done. I would check the CMP and get a service grade for about $695.00 and be done with it. A buddy of mine just got a service grade H&R that looks like it was fired very little. It might even be correct. It came with a LMT barrel which are about the best of the US GI's.

Answers

1. yes

2. The NM mod is nothing more than having the trigger reduced to 4.5 pounds or there abouts.

3. The bolt should have been fitted with the barrel when the chamber was finish cut.

DGR does have some real nice stocks. I would also send your receiver along with the trigger group.

elnica1
February 8, 2011, 07:19 AM
Thanks!

A 1951 M1 Garand would have probably come with a stamped guard with no loop, correct?

skidooman603
February 8, 2011, 08:51 AM
Don't put that NM trigger group in if you want to shoot JC Garand matches with it. It won't be legal..

Orlando
February 8, 2011, 12:00 PM
Yes stamped trigger guard.
If installing a new barrel pay someone to do it is much cheaper to pay to have it done than buy the tools unless you are doing it for the fun of it. Also takes some know how, its alot more than twisting on the barrel. Not the same as assembling a AR-15
New barrel will need finish reamed. Even replacing a bolt on a existing barrel headspace needs checked. Bolt may or may not headspace correctly
As already sated buying parts and building a Garand will be alot more expensive than buying a complete rifle

1KPerDay
February 8, 2011, 02:45 PM
Just echoing what has been said... if you have a barreled receiver AND A BOLT HEADSPACED to that barrel, you can build to your heart's content. But don't just throw any bolt you have lying around on that barrel. Garands aren't LEGO guns like ARs and 10/22s. :)

Have fun and let us know how it turns out.

stonecutter2
February 8, 2011, 03:10 PM
It may not be as cheap as just buying a CMP M1, but it will certainly be fun to put together, I'm sure!

Good luck, and have no fear - aside from the bolt/headspace with the barrel thing, the rest of the parts are very interchangeable. There are a LOT of Garand parts at fair prices in the market right now.

Good luck and have fun!

memphisjim
February 8, 2011, 03:12 PM
take pics of your progress

elnica1
February 8, 2011, 05:45 PM
big thanks guys! I do have a bolt that was fitted with the barrel, so I'm good to go.
I assume it is possible to find another bolt that could also fit, right?

1KPerDay
February 8, 2011, 06:19 PM
Possible, yes. You may have to try a few. Why?

elnica1
February 8, 2011, 07:19 PM
just curious!

D94R
February 8, 2011, 10:31 PM
I would check the CMP and get a service grade for about $695.00 and be done with it

It's $695.00 if he's already a member of the CMP. If not, then he'll have to factor in the price of joining an organization that is CMP affiliated, obtaining a carry license (if that's one way he would want to qualify for CMP), or the myriad of other avenues he can take to join the CMP, all of which usually cost some money. So that $695.00 isn't the final and total cost for a CMP rifle if he would be joining just to buy a Garand at the lower than dealer prices.

Onmilo
February 8, 2011, 10:48 PM
One little tip,
-19 Springfield bolts tend to run a bit long and will usually allow correct headspace on rifles that come up a bit short with other bolts and you won't even need to set the barrel back.

Orlando
February 9, 2011, 12:21 AM
Actually Service Grades are only $595.00, plus shipping,you can join a club for as low as $15.00.That is the only cost involved. Besides you need to join a club so you can buy ammo at a good price
You will have much, much more than that in a build. Trust me I have built many rifles
You can have that much in just a receiver, barrel, OpRod and bolt and sights and you still have alot more parts to buy

bobbo
February 9, 2011, 12:48 AM
It's $695.00 if he's already a member of the CMP. If not, then he'll have to factor in the price of joining an organization that is CMP affiliated, obtaining a carry license (if that's one way he would want to qualify for CMP), or the myriad of other avenues he can take to join the CMP, all of which usually cost some money. So that $695.00 isn't the final and total cost for a CMP rifle if he would be joining just to buy a Garand at the lower than dealer prices.

1) It's $595 for a Service grade.
2) He can join a state rifle association for about $25 a year for the club.
3) He can get a C&R FFL for $30 for 3 years, to meet the shooting requirement, or have a hunter safety course, which are free in many places.

All in all, you can get a CMP Garand for $650 or so, shipped to your door. If he hocks the barreled receiver, he could cut that to $400 or so. All in all, not too shabby.

D94R
February 9, 2011, 05:56 AM
Good point, I didn't price check the CMP costs. My point was that it wasn't just XXX.XX and "be done with it". There are other prices to factor in to get CMP access just to get a CMP Garand.

Which, in just about any way you look at it, is still the cheaper route vs building or buying one from a dealer.

P-32
February 9, 2011, 07:30 AM
Sorry guys, it was late and I mis-quoted the price of a CMP service grade.

D94R, The quality of service grades coming out of the CMP right now is well worth the work it takes to qualify. The quality of the service grades coming out look to be fired little so unless you have to have a different stock you are done with it.

A shooting buddy just recieved his H&R S/G. Fed-X brought to my house as when the rifle was ordered, he didn't want his wife to know. I got to look at the rifle closely and found two non H&R parts. 1 was the op rod which is a S/A and the other was a LMT barrel. The LMT barrel was used by H&R and IHC. The S/A op rod could be correct but I'm not sure. The stock had a few more dents and dings than my correct grade H&R but is good enough most dents will iron out.

The other thing is to find a John C. Garand match and have a blast.

skidooman603
February 9, 2011, 04:46 PM
There is satisfaction in building your own rifle.... Never a savings :)

D94R
February 16, 2011, 04:24 AM
D94R, The quality of service grades coming out of the CMP right now is well worth the work it takes to qualify. The quality of the service grades coming out look to be fired little so unless you have to have a different stock you are done with it.
I completely agree. I was just pointing out the price wasn't just the cost of the rifle. Anyhow, I went through the hoops to qualify just to buy the Garand and Carbine, and the 2 service grade Garands I got 3 years ago are IMHO superb for the total cost involved. Far better, and far cheaper through the CMP than any dealer out there I think. Well worth everything invested to acquire them!

cfullgraf
February 16, 2011, 08:45 AM
I would like to build a Garand but individual parts are just too expensive. A while ago, I found someone selling parts kits with no receiver or barrel and they were more expensive than a complete Field Grade from CMP.

I am seriously considering buying a Field Grade to put in the safe just for spare parts for my other M1s.

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