Gun laws in Kentucky?


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Adam
January 2, 2004, 04:00 PM
Are you familiar with Kentucky gun laws? Where I can find some interesting information? Any links? How about self defense and other similar law problems in Kentucky? I'm very interested. Thank you for help.

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Hkmp5sd
January 2, 2004, 04:05 PM
ATF P 5300.5 - State Laws and Published Ordinances - Firearms - Kentucky (http://www.atf.gov/firearms/statelaws/22ndedition/kentucky.pdf)

Adam
January 2, 2004, 04:12 PM
Thank you.

Balog
January 2, 2004, 04:20 PM
Adam: you mentioned in another thread that you are thinking of coming to America. Are you looking at Kentucky? There have been several threads here about which state is the best, gun rights wise. I'll see if I can find them, they had lots of good info.

Adam
January 2, 2004, 04:26 PM
Yes it's one of my favorite locations. Williamsburg exactly. If you can find this it will be very helpful. After "Poland gun laws" experience it will be like paradise for me...:)

Balog
January 2, 2004, 04:32 PM
Try www.packing.org. They have great info on gun laws in all states.

El Tejon
January 2, 2004, 04:34 PM
Adam, if you get to KY, give us a buzz. All Poles get special treatment at Knob Creek. Have you shot a 1919 off a truck?:D

Balog
January 2, 2004, 04:38 PM
This thread (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22957&highlight=alaska) discusses "The perfect state". Some good info.
This thread (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44551&highlight=alaska) was a discussion I started about Alaska. Lots of good info, esp about Alaska.

I know there where more posted, but I'm not sure how to find them. Hope that helps. :)

Ky Larry
January 2, 2004, 04:49 PM
Adam, if you come to Ky, give me a yell. I would love to hear your observations about the differences in culture. I can promise you a good meal and sight seeing.:)

Adam
January 3, 2004, 03:53 AM
Thank you for answers and informations and invitations. I will keep you updated about our relocation friends.

Adam
January 3, 2004, 10:38 AM
Adam, if you get to KY, give us a buzz. All Poles get special treatment at Knob Creek. Have you shot a 1919 off a truck?

Sorry what's 1919?

El Tejon
January 3, 2004, 10:56 AM
Air-cooled, belt-fed machine gun. One of John Browning's designs, used to free Europe.:)

Adam
January 3, 2004, 11:01 AM
Wow! Great perspective! I will bring you then a bottle of real Polish Sliwowica (75%). Just let me touch it beauty, please. :)

El Tejon
January 3, 2004, 11:04 AM
Not a prob. We can let you handle all sorts of stuff.

Good luck with the immigration stuff, PM if you need references for attorneys down there.

suijurisfreeman
January 3, 2004, 11:09 AM
Adam,
I own property in Kentucky, finally bought 20 acres in Monroe County back in 1998. One of the main reasons that I bought property in Kentucky is because of the wording in Kentucky's Bill of Rights. Section 1, 7th, "The right to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ....." While it's true that the rest of that section grants the State Legislature the lawful authority to regulate the wearing of concealed weapons, my son and I carry in the open when out and about. We also carry a copy of Constructive Notice to serve to any LEO's who might question our exercising this fundamental right. My son had an incident back in July with a Monroe County deputy, Darrell Ford who stopped, disarmed and unlawfully searched my son just because he was carrying a weapon in the open. When it was all said and done, my son got an apology from deputy Ford.

Adam
January 3, 2004, 11:10 AM
We start in Visa Lottery this year, so few more weeks and we will now a little more. I know that nearly 50% of applications was turned down because of errors this year (first time via internet) so maybe our chances are little better. Both me and my wife send applications.

Adam
January 3, 2004, 11:24 AM
I'm looking for free state too. Few more things that my family need is rural area and even better a small town with lot of tourists (Williamsburg is now a place where we are looking with great interest). We want a small town because we live in 2 000 000 people city. High cost of living, high rate of crime and big city is not what we want for rest of our lifes. We want to establish a little company (B&B with small shop with Polish food). We not looking for big money, just for peaceful life in small, friendly community. I was growed up in small town in East of Poland so I know how it is. Good education for our children, quite good health care (I'm cancer survivor) and decent communication (near Williamsburg is 75 interstate higway). We have a family in Chicago so it's reasonably close to visit them few times per year. It's hard to leave our lifes here (familys, friends, memorys etc.) but we want a better future for our children. We will arrive with some money in hand (something beetwen 75 and 90k$) so it could be little easier to begin new life. Sorry for my English friends.

suijurisfreeman
January 3, 2004, 11:31 AM
Adam,
Back in 1998 I bought 20 wooded acres in Monroe County, Kentucky for $8,700, the property taxes are only $65 per year. The closest town is 12 miles away (population of 3,500), Glasgow is 25 miles away (population of 20,000), Bowling Green (a college town) is about 60 miles away (population of 45,000). Alot of tourists come to this area, various attractions all around here.

Adam
January 3, 2004, 11:36 AM
Sounds great. We don't need a lot of acres (I think about max 3-5) but what do you think about idea of B&B in this area. Good, bad or forget? Tourists = money for us. And we want to show to all people who will visit our shop a great Polish food. Cheap, simple but very satiate...

suijurisfreeman
January 3, 2004, 12:09 PM
Adam,
I've seen several Bed & Breakfasts around the area. Mammoth Cave Park is about 40 miles away, Dale Hollow Lake and Barren River Recreation Parks are within 30-40 miles - lots of tourists coming and going. Area Chamber of Commerce could provide you with lots of information.

gabeodog
January 3, 2004, 12:29 PM
And a second vote for www.packing.org

Adam
January 4, 2004, 03:15 AM
BTW any good gun shop, range and gun smith in area? Any bed experience? Should I avoid some places? Thank you.

glocksman
January 4, 2004, 05:17 AM
I'm looking for free state too. Few more things that my family need is rural area and even better a small town with lot of tourists (Williamsburg is now a place where we are looking with great interest). We want a small town because we live in 2 000 000 people city. High cost of living, high rate of crime and big city is not what we want for rest of our lifes. We want to establish a little company (B&B with small shop with Polish food). We not looking for big money, just for peaceful life in small, friendly community. I was growed up in small town in East of Poland so I know how it is. Good education for our children, quite good health care (I'm cancer survivor) and decent communication (near Williamsburg is 75 interstate higway). We have a family in Chicago so it's reasonably close to visit them few times per year. It's hard to leave our lifes here (familys, friends, memorys etc.) but we want a better future for our children. We will arrive with some money in hand (something beetwen 75 and 90k$) so it could be little easier to begin new life. Sorry for my English friends.


You might want to consider Southwestern Indiana as well.
There's plenty of small communities outside of the Evansville area.
Evansville itself has only about 120,000 people.
Our gun laws are even better than Kentucky's as we have no training requirement for CCW and our permits are only $25 for 4 years.


Here's some information on Evansville (http://www.evansvillechamber.com/regionabout.html)

yesterdaysyouth
January 4, 2004, 11:35 AM
i don't live near the area but i've been through there several times and know people enrolled in the school there......

as far as b&b goes, i guess this would be an alright location, but there really would be much better.... the area itself is wide open mountain country, and the people are wide open mountain people as well... most of the tourist would be coming from cumberland falls, and the state parks there have everything to offer...

the town is built around cumberland college, which is a baptist school if i recall correctly, take that how you will....

im not sure about real estate in the area because of the d.boone forest, but aside from that i'd say land is cheap, the town is built right in the cumberland river valley and is surrounded by 1500-2200 ft. peaks

if i had to make the chioce i would consider the areas surrounding the major lakes in the south, ky, barkley, cumberland, green river, dale hollow, barren river, nolin... or go north closer to lexington, frankfort area...

ccw here is easy, if your not a felon you're good to go... open carry is legal, and common in the country.... and best of all provate sells are AOK!!

www.kc3.org
there's a good place to find out what you need to know ...


http://cserve.cumberlandcollege.edu/
that's cumberland...

http://www.williamsburgky.net/
http://williamsburgky.areaguides.net/
town links, looks like the days inn is probally the biggest business in town..


http://www.uky.edu/KentuckyNetworks/williamsburg.html
schools

http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/parks/cumbfal2.htm
the competition...

if you wanna come up and shoot let me know...

Adam
January 4, 2004, 12:05 PM
if i had to make the chioce i would consider the areas surrounding the major lakes in the south, ky, barkley, cumberland, green river, dale hollow, barren river, nolin...

Like Monticello, Burnside or Somerset for example...

Thank you yesterdaysyouth it's good information. You know I'm not familiar with this area. Someone told me that both Somerset and Monticello will be ok for us.

yesterdaysyouth
January 4, 2004, 03:54 PM
i would think somerset would be a much better choice, right there on cumberland.... more people but it's not anywhere near your current situation...

but still too far southeast for me... i know alot of great people from someset, science hill, and over in rockcastle county but....

we are talking about one of the most redneck areas in the country, so take that into account...:D

Adam
January 4, 2004, 04:56 PM
one of the most redneck areas in the country

Did I understand well? Full of socialist so called democrats? Or what is it mean?

yesterdaysyouth
January 4, 2004, 06:19 PM
Any bed experience? Should I avoid some places?

im not real sure how to put it but, since you asked ...

not everyone will accept you and your business with open arms....

granted there probally won't be many problems, if any, but racism is still a big problem in this aera, as is poverty....

but im 99% sure you're gonna run into that anywhere you go, it's just worse here...

i don't like it, but i see it everyday...

:barf:

anyone else in ky care to chime in here?
how is it in your neck of the woods?


on a side note...
any bed experience?? how should i take that??:D

GigaBuist
January 4, 2004, 06:55 PM
Did I understand well? Full of socialist so called democrats? Or what is it mean?


I was wondering when our new Pole member would first hear 'redneck'. In a discussion about Kentucky you just can't get around the issue I guess :D

There's basically 3 stereotypes, typically considered "Southern", that get mixed together here. They are: a) Redneck, b) Hill Billy, and c) Good 'ol boy (Good Old Boy).

I don't have anything against people of the South... so read this with some humor in mind.

The following basically applies to all three:

Drinks cheap American beer of the Miller/Budweiser variety. Drinks a whole lot of it too.

Wears jeans and t-shirts all the time. Probably has baseball cap on too. Does not own a suit or a tie most likely.

If he doesn't smoke he chews tobacco. Might do both. At the same time.

Drives a pickup truck. A very old pickup truck. If state laws allows, it's got a gunrack on the back window. Actually it might have one even if state law doesn't allow it.

Their "accent" is more than just a Southern drawl. They've got their own language sometimes.

They own a few firearms, mostly shotguns and hunting rifles.

Redneck:

Generally has racist undertones to it. Generally speaking everybody in the 'KKK' is thought to be a redneck by default. Not all rednecks are in the KKK though, if that make sense. They don't refer to blacks (or African American if you want to be real politically correct) as anything but "colored folk" or worse.

Strong dislike for gay men.

Hill Billy / Goold 'ol Boy:

Probably knows somebody that makes moonshine (illegal, and strong, liquor).

They invented NASCAR and watch/listen to it religiously. Actually stock car racing was born out of bootlegging (running illegal liquor).

Good 'ol Boy specific:

Probably more "rounded" than the others. Far more likely to be overweight than the other groups.

Probably played high school football or other sport.

Loves his mother. Say something bad about mama and you'll get popped with a fist.

Has no problem with non-white people, so long as they don't try and marry into the family, or try and drive in NASCAR.

Feels a little uncomfortable around gay men.

Hill Billy specific:

Loves everybody in his family. The family tree might not have taken "normal" paths in it's branching process. Cousins make good wives/husbands.

Doesn't know that non-white people exist.

Doesn't know that gay men exist.

El Tejon
January 4, 2004, 07:40 PM
Objection!

Redneck always meant to me at least someone who has a job. Rednecks were outside in the sun working, instead of sitting on the sofa watching the television and eating!!! Can't see how working would be wrong.

Hillbilly, uhhh, uneducated lives in the hills. O.K., so what? Plenty of ignorants living in the city, e.g. the Chicago public schools. More of a geographic term, at least to mean. Some up here in the North use it as an insult.

The insult that I've always felt is apt is "trash." That can cut across your redneck/hillbilly/gob regime and beyond!:D

Adam
January 5, 2004, 05:57 AM
Sounds interesting...It can't be probably big problem for us even if I'm not a racist, but for my information only. West part of Kentucky is better I mean more rednecks free? Funny thing BTW :D . Here in Poland in rural areas people are very similar (they don't drive pickups, and prefer cheap wines and soccer but rest is really similar). I don't think it's bad or good. Even if I don't like it I can accept it . It's free country.

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