.44 Magnum Glock?


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RonDeer10mm
February 9, 2011, 09:11 PM
If glock made a prototype .44 magnum model would the frame rails even hold up to the slide velocity, besides them trying to make a frame big enough for it?:what::evil:

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GRIZ22
February 9, 2011, 09:20 PM
If glock made a prototype .44 magnum model would the frame rails even hold up to the slide velocity,

If they were so inclined I'm certain the engineers would take this...along with a lot of other things into account.

As it is I seriously doubt you'd see a Glock in 44 mag. Not many people breaking down the doors for a 44 mag semiauto.

RonDeer10mm
February 9, 2011, 09:26 PM
maybe they can even fire a new round...
the .44 GAP :rolleyes:

forindooruseonly
February 9, 2011, 09:31 PM
If it got to the prototype stage, it would be only after the Glock designers and engineers would have solved that problem on paper first.

I guess I don't understand what you are trying to get at here. You want people to say it would blow up? Or defend Glocks? But just to play along here is my answer:

Considering the expense of putting even a prototype together, be assured that the Glock folks would have figured that out long before the first plastic was molded and if it wasn't feasible, it wouldn't be even attempted. So if a Glock .44 mag did exist in the real world, it would be a safe bet that it would work.

A more interesting question would be simply "will any company ever try to build a polymer .44 mag?"

RonDeer10mm
February 9, 2011, 09:40 PM
maybe not the actual .44 mag but a close like a .44 mag made shorter (.44 GAP?)to fit in the Glock 20/21 frame kind of like the .45 acp and .45 gap.

Buck Snort
February 9, 2011, 10:35 PM
A 44 GAP!? HO-CHEE-MAMA!! I'm glad I'm almost 68 yrs. old and will most likely be dead in about 10 years!!

Carter
February 9, 2011, 10:39 PM
A 44 GAP!? HO-CHEE-MAMA!! I'm glad I'm almost 68 yrs. old and will most likely be dead in about 10 years!!

Eh, with today's medicine you'll be around awhile longer to see all your favorite calibers neutered in such a manner.

Unless glock's board of directors or w/e runs that company went eccentric, not gonna happen. Would be cool to see though.

A Desert Eagle like Glock...wow

10MM Man
February 9, 2011, 10:42 PM
Clark Customs in southern Louisiana makes a drop-in conversion for gov't model 1911's called the .460 Rowland that duplicates the .44 mag performance. The kit includes a compensator. It's on my bucketlist!

daorhgih
March 14, 2011, 10:33 PM
One has a proven method of making money, so that method is constantly repeated ( I own 5 ); one has an itch to introduce fun, "audacious" guns (I own 4 ), and does so, even at risk of knock-offs by its competitoRuger. I like them both. Dao

Zundfolge
March 14, 2011, 10:40 PM
If glock made a prototype .44 magnum model would the frame rails even hold up to the slide velocity, besides them trying to make a frame big enough for it?:what::evil:

SAAMI maximum chamber pressure specs:

.44 Remington Magnum: 36,000 PSI
10mm Auto: 37,500 PSI


.44 Remington Mag might be a difficult because of the rimmed cartridge ... but .44 AMP might be worth a look (except that Glock isn't interested in making oddball pistols for small markets).

W.E.G.
March 14, 2011, 10:46 PM
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/Glock/50glock2.jpg

lobo9er
March 14, 2011, 10:50 PM
I am surprised the 44 auto mag never caught on.

lobo9er
March 14, 2011, 10:54 PM
does 460 rowland beat the snot out of your 1911 frame and all other parts that are not part of the conversion?

Snowdog
March 14, 2011, 11:32 PM
I'm content with the G20 for being an adequate powerhouse, but I wouldn't mind seeing a Glock chambered for the .460 Rowland. I've been wanting one for a while but don't really want to convert one of my 1911s. I'd much rather see a pistol built specifically for the caliber.

mljdeckard
March 15, 2011, 12:24 AM
Yes, what would you want a '.44 GAP' to do that a 10mm won't do?

ZeBool
March 15, 2011, 12:53 AM
Sure, glock will make a .44 magnum eventually. It will be built as a double stack 1911, have a DAO trigger, an external extractor, and will be called the MIMteen eleven. :barf:

IdahoLT1
March 15, 2011, 04:58 AM
The .460 Rowland is a far cry from a .44 mag. From an energy standpoint, its more on par with a .41 mag.

Snowdog
March 16, 2011, 09:19 AM
According to Clark Custom Guns (http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/460press.htm) (who Rowland worked with during the development of 1911 conversion kits), the "factory load" standards for the .460 Rowland:

230gr @ 1340 FPS (917 ft/lbs)
200gr @ 1400 FPS (934 ft/lbs)
185gr @ 1550 FPS (997 ft/lbs)

Considering these velocities would be from a cartridge with essentially the same OAL of the .45acp and from a 1911, I'd say these numbers are quite impressive.

Guy de Loimbard
March 16, 2011, 03:08 PM
Why wouldn't it? If Glock designed a .44 magnum prototype, surely they would enlarge the the frame rails to handle it, or they would design the gun around a different system entirely. Perhaps a gas-delayed blowback?

Zundfolge
March 16, 2011, 03:23 PM
No need to redesign anything (other than elongating the grip to accommodate the longer cartridges).

The 10mm already has to withstand higher chamber pressures than the .44mag (note the SAAMI specs I posted up in post #10 (http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=7168563&postcount=10)).

Thing is a .44 mag Glock goes against the general Glock Ethos more than the laws of physics. Gaston Glock is a humorless engineer with no interest in designing or building anything that is not already in line with what he's currently building.

lobo9er
March 16, 2011, 09:44 PM
Anyone use a 460 rowland conversion? and if so how does your 1911 stock parts hold up?

elcaminoariba
March 17, 2011, 09:55 PM
maybe they can even fire a new round...
the .44 GAP

For the WIN! :D

KJS
March 18, 2011, 05:51 AM
Who here is eager to "enjoy" the recoil of a .44 Mag from a polymer pistol? Would these be the same masochists who buy 12 ounce .357s from S&W?

What human threat requires more power than their 10mm can deliver?

lobo9er
March 18, 2011, 08:10 AM
so no 460 rowland owners or users?

IdahoLT1
March 18, 2011, 08:55 AM
All I know is that the Rowland can't be used on a non compensated 1911 and I'm not a big fan of compensated self defense firearms.

NMGonzo
March 18, 2011, 08:57 AM
Who here is eager to "enjoy" the recoil of a .44 Mag from a polymer pistol? Would these be the same masochists who buy 12 ounce .357s from S&W?

What human threat requires more power than their 10mm can deliver?

Safety blanket effect.

The size of human that will not be affected by 5 torso shots of .357 is not going to fit through the door.

RonDeer10mm
March 23, 2011, 07:39 PM
Lol lol ^^^^^

SlamFire1
March 23, 2011, 08:19 PM
If glock made a prototype .44 magnum model would the frame rails even hold up to the slide velocity, besides them trying to make a frame big enough for it?

It would not be a short recoil action.

If you want 44 Magnum power in an auto pistol, why not get a Desert Eagle?

http://www.magnumresearch.com/Expand.asp?ProductCode=Black-6

RonDeer10mm
March 23, 2011, 08:24 PM
^ don't want one

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