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bfason
January 3, 2004, 03:36 AM
Gun-banner ignorance is a source of endless amusement for us - or rather, it would be were not the stakes so high. They consistently make the most ludicrous errors that are obvious to those of us who know something about firearms. We all know that they confuse machine guns with semi-automatics, refer to magazines as "bullet stocks," confuse and conflate assault rifles and "assault weapons," and generally make it up as they go along.

Doing a bit of research I found yet another howler, this time from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. On 5/21/03 the newspaper published an editorial calling for renewing and expanding the AWB. Assault weapons belong off the street, under a ban (http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/0503/21guns.html)
The newspaper informs us that "Adolf Hitler was so delighted with the lethal capability of the new gun presented to him by his ordnance designers during World War II that he dubbed it the 'Sterm Kever' -- or assault rifle." First, Hitler didn't even name the rifle - the inventors of the StG44 (http://www.world-war-2.info/weapons/wp_2.php) gave it its name. Second, the German word is "das Sturmgewehr." Whatever dumbass wrote that editorial for the AJC heard the word and didn't even bother to find out how it is spelled.

"Sterm Kever."

:barf:

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Dorian
January 3, 2004, 03:42 AM
I'm glad you find it amusing man. I guess that's the only way to look at it and not go mad.

I was going to cut and paste parts of the article to point out how STUPID it was.... then as I read more and more I realized that I'd be cutting and pasting almost the entire article.

:barf:

WonderNine
January 3, 2004, 05:22 AM
Means "That Storm Rifle" in English btw for those that don't know.

Yes, it's pretty obvious that whoever wrote that article was winging it most of the way and making up the rest. But then I'm sure the writer has some sort of college education and therefore that makes him smarter than the rest of us.

natedog
January 3, 2004, 05:55 AM
The NRA leadership insists the right to own a gun accorded Americans in the Second Amendment extends to any and all guns, even those that fire off 30 rounds in less than two seconds and murder innocent children. :barf:

Cool Hand Luke 22:36
January 3, 2004, 07:18 AM
Where are the countering full page ads produced by the NRA and GOA? :confused:

Mobile Oil used to have a paid-for column that regularly ran on the Washington Post's Editorial Page. I wonder why the NRA or GOA don't do something similar.

bfason
January 3, 2004, 07:27 AM
I wonder why the NRA or GOA don't do something similar.

For the NRA, probably a hundred million reasons why.

http://www.nealknox.com/alerts/msg00185.html


Means "That Storm Rifle" in English btw for those that don't know.

Usually translated into English as "assault rifle."

Spot77
January 3, 2004, 08:27 AM
At least reders can click on the "Equal Time" link and receive a different view on the issue.

But "our" side's story isn't filled with enough emotional hotbuttons to be as effective as the gun grabbers' drivel.

Langenator
January 3, 2004, 10:47 AM
They also don't mention that Hitler initially didn't want the StG44-the designers hid it's true nature from him by calling it the MP (Machine Pistol) 44, in keeping with Hitler's mania for machine pistols (submachine guns). It was only after the generals were clamoring for more of the new Sturmgewehren (and Hitler initally didn't know what they were talking about) that the subterfuge ended.

El Tejon
January 3, 2004, 11:14 AM
Hatred is based on ignorance. The gun haters hate us as they are completely ignorant of firearms and history.

7.62FullMetalJacket
January 3, 2004, 12:23 PM
I find it ironic that they point out Hitler, the head of a government, liked assault rifles or machine pistols, with the apparent inference that anyone that likes MPs is like Hitler.

He was a brutal dictator that disarmed people and then committed genocide. Then started a World War through aggression. Through force of arms.

Do they have an "Irony Editor?" If anything, any thinking person would come away with the idea thet the PEOPLE need the AW/MP to prevent another Hitler. :confused:

Brian Maffei
January 3, 2004, 01:06 PM
"Sterm Kever."

OK, that's funny.

" the banning of Uzis one day means your Colt will be confiscated tomorrow."

If that Colt happens to be an AR-15, then yes.

I guess whoever wrote this travesty didn't want their name or e-mail attached to it.

nico
January 3, 2004, 01:21 PM
Brian, above the title, it says "our view" which i think is meant to imply that it's a staff editorial.
In the article they say something like 1/4 of cops killed in 2002 were killed with assault rifles. Of course they got the statistic from the VPC. Aren't they the same ones who talk about assault weapons and define them as any semi-automatic firearm when spewing their bs statistics.
And how the hell does an inanimate object "murder innocent children?":cuss: :fire:

capt_happypants
January 3, 2004, 01:30 PM
I believe "sterm kever" roughly translates to:

"I am not pleased with the snails and the spoiled cheese. Now bring me some strudel, or I will force you to lick my jackboots, silly French person!"

:neener:

Malone LaVeigh
January 4, 2004, 05:27 PM
Gun folks love to chortle over the stupid mistakes of the anti types, but do you think they care? It's like me when I act like I never heard of the latest teen rage. My kids roll their eyes and can't believe how stupid poor old dad is. But ol' dad doesn't care, he thinks it's all garbage and is showing his disdain in his own way.

So you get to feel superior because Michael Moore refers to cartridges as "bullets" or some stupid writer doesn't know the difference between a magazine and a clip. You can laugh about it next time they pass another stupid law.

Oleg Volk
January 4, 2004, 05:55 PM
Malone is right. Calling them stupid does no good if they win legislatively anyway.

Mark Tyson
January 4, 2004, 07:25 PM
The best way to show them up is to write a letter politely pointing out all their mistakes, and citing reliable sources.

bfason
January 4, 2004, 09:46 PM
The best way to show them up is to write a letter politely pointing out all their mistakes, and citing reliable sources.

Yeah, I do that, too, from time to time, but I also enjoy sharing it with my fellow EBG-owners just for sheer yuck value.

Bill Hook
January 5, 2004, 01:11 AM
A polite letter pointing out errors MIGHT get some traction, but I seriously think that most folks just know guns are bad and an inordinate amount of proof will be required to refute the mistakes, bad facts, and outright lies from the anti-gun activists. Guilty until proven innocent.

They'll probably think you're a Nazi when you point out the errant reference in correct German. :rolleyes:

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