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Davidfl
February 12, 2011, 09:58 PM
guy whats a good 1911 i wanna get a 1911 my range is $800 $1000
whats a good 1911 is Para-ordnance a good 1911

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CZ57
February 12, 2011, 10:03 PM
SA Range Officer for around $750.;)

38 Super Fan
February 12, 2011, 11:20 PM
There are better options than Para IMO. The $1000 STI Trojan is probably the best 1911 in the $1000 or less range.

The Real Wyatt
February 12, 2011, 11:28 PM
My opinion ... get yerself a Taurus a stainless PT-1911 at just over $600.00 and spend the rest on a thousand rounds of ammo.

By the time your'e done with all that ammo, you'll be hittin' quarters at 15 yards consistently with NEVER a malfunction of any kind.

Fuzzy7
February 12, 2011, 11:51 PM
S&w 1911.

wow6599
February 13, 2011, 01:10 AM
English please........

W.E.G.
February 13, 2011, 01:16 AM
English please........

This.

Davidfl
February 13, 2011, 01:24 AM
lol The Real Wyatt

Davidfl
February 13, 2011, 01:26 AM
how much is a springfield operator or a colt

Davidfl
February 13, 2011, 01:27 AM
The Real Wyatt do you have a Taurus 1911

MICHAEL T
February 13, 2011, 01:43 AM
Get a Colt You will sooner or later. So might as well start with one.

Davidfl
February 13, 2011, 02:08 AM
a springfield Compact Operator for $920 on impactgun

ColtPythonElite
February 13, 2011, 02:38 AM
I can't complain about my Springfield Loaded. It runs any ammo and shoot tight groups. It was $740 bucks.

Johnny Lightning
February 13, 2011, 06:32 AM
I was in your shoes about half a year ago. I ended up getting a Springfield Loaded for about $800. I like the loaded and it eats everything. I have seen the Range Officer for $740 at one of my local gun stores which I feel is a really good deal. I still wonder if I should have gotten the used Colt Gold Cup for $700 and had it refinished. I have to agree w/ michael t get a Colt you will eventually...I know I will.

Olympus
February 13, 2011, 09:53 AM
Someone else came up with this line, but I like it: "Friends don't let friends buy Para!"

clance
February 13, 2011, 10:40 AM
guy whats a good 1911 i wanna get a 1911 my range is $800 $1000
whats a good 1911 is Para-ordnance a good 1911

In that price range "I" would look at either a Springfield Loaded or a Kimber Custom. The Springfield won't have the firing pin safety as will a new Kimber but both are considered great value for the money and has most of the modifications (beavertail, combat sights, throated barrel, etc...) that anyone would want at half or more the cost of a Wilson, Clark, Baer, etc...

Another plus is if in the future you decide to sell it for a upgrade, you may lose a little but you won't take a beating due to demand of these makes/models if you sell it yourself.

amd6547
February 13, 2011, 10:52 AM
I am pretty happy with my Para GI Expert. It has proven accurate and reliable.

skoro
February 13, 2011, 11:56 AM
i wanna get a 1911 my range is $800 $1000

There are lots of options in your price range and there have been a lot of good suggestions. If it were me, I'd get a Colt Combat Commander. They're just about perfect in terms of handling, performance, and reliability.

JTQ
February 13, 2011, 12:01 PM
Before you jump on the Springfield Range Officer or the STI Spartan, which I'm sure are both fine pistols, make sure you want a pistol with adjustable sights. If you don't, your replacement options will be seriously limited.

Colt is generally a good recommendation. I you decide you don't like it, Colt's hold their resale value better. Think Harley-Davidson in motorcycles.

modifiedbrowning
February 13, 2011, 12:12 PM
Colt, S&W or Springfield should all be in your price range.

Caliper_RWVA
February 13, 2011, 12:40 PM
I am pretty happy with my Para GI Expert. It has proven accurate and reliable.

+1, but I've only had time to put 150 rounds through her yet. Only cost me 1/2 the OP's price range though.

Personally, I don't like the double stack Paras however. Huge mag ruins the awesomeness of the 1911 grip.

Radjxf
February 13, 2011, 12:44 PM
Used Colt (must inspect in person), SA Range Officer, STI Trojan or Spartan. Just my opinion but I would avoid Kimber and Para like the plague.

bannockburn
February 13, 2011, 01:03 PM
Well I like my Colt Lightweight Government, especially nice if you want something a little lighter to carry in a M1911. It's also well within your price range.

230therapy
February 13, 2011, 01:09 PM
Prepare yourself for this purchase by reading these articles:

http://10-8performance.blogspot.com/2011/01/choosing-your-first-1911-some-thoughts.html

http://www.10-8performance.com/Articles.html

http://10-8performance.blogspot.com/2010/05/1911-reliability-what-does-it-really.html

I disagree that the Springfield Mil-Spec is a great way to go. It requires work and my local gun store won't carry them due to many problems. The builds just have not been all that great. It lacks a beavertail grip safety (which enhances comfort while shooting). Perhaps he means it's a good start for a custom buildk. I prefer a gun that can be carried immediately and built up later. The Springfield Armory Loaded M9109 is probably the best deal given that it comes with night sights, ambidextrous safety, etc for around $750-800. It has everything you need out of the box and great support from the company.

I found the Colt XSE to be a great value and good performer, although it lacked night sights.

Others are pushing the SIG XO. My concerns with SIG are the slide geometry differences and the internal safeties. Dig around on forums.1911forum.com.

I have also found the short slide guns (less than 4" in length) to be problem guns. Many gunsmiths will tell you to stick with 5" barrels with bushings.

Used Springfield Armory EMP in either 9x19mm or 40 S&W...great carry gun!

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr204/230therapy/firearms/EMP/EMP-desantis.jpg

The EMP is not a true 1911. It has been designed around the 9x19mm cartridge. Dimensions were reduced. It does use some standard 1911 parts. My gun had some issues, but Springfield Customer Service fixed the problems and the gun runs great (even with low quality Brown Bear ammo and high quality self-defense ammo).

Davidfl
February 13, 2011, 02:02 PM
ty so much guys so colt or springfield

Davidfl
February 13, 2011, 02:04 PM
I SEEN A COLT GOLD CUP TROPHY SS for $1000

Davidfl
February 13, 2011, 02:06 PM
in kimber^

Dunedain
February 13, 2011, 02:27 PM
Get a Colt, they are made in the U.S., and they hold their value quite well. Unlike SA, which gets it's frames (or slides, or maybe slides and frames?) I think from Brazil. Like someone said earlier, you're going to end up really wanting a Colt, so just buy it now and save yourself the trouble. :)

Or get another quality 1911 .45 made in the U.S., Dan Wesson, STI, etc.

O C
February 13, 2011, 02:39 PM
I have Colts, Kimbers, Springfields, S&Wsc, Taurus PT1911, Sig GSR, all in the 1911 platform. My advice (for what it's worth) is to get into the "1911" club with a reasonable outlay. Then shoot the heck out of it. The Taurus offers a "reasonable" outlay that has more "bang for the buck" than most. Does it have snob appeal? No. Does it go "bang" every time? Mine has. It just might be that you decide that the 1911 isn't your cup of tea, and a Glock, HK, or any of the other types is more to your liking. If you can't hit with it, save your money and buy a baseball bat. You won't go broke with the Taurus, and if 1911 is for you, buy the best (in YOUR opinion, not mine) that you can afford. I found that the 1911 is for me, and now have to decide on whether to get rid of the HKs, Kahrs, Berettas, Glocks, CZs ect..decisions..decisions.

ExMachina
February 13, 2011, 02:39 PM
anything more specific on what you want and why?

caliber?
bbl length?
you gonna compete? ccw??

your price range could get you a pretty nice used gun.

Tomcat47
February 13, 2011, 04:50 PM
+ 10 For Taurus 1911...... Best BANG (Pun Intended) going in my opinion!.....and G&A Handguns......and Shooting Times.......and you get the point.

http://www.handgunsmag.com/featured_handguns/HG_taurus1911ss_201007/index.html

http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/pt_080505/

And I know the guy writing the article for the magazines is biased because he got paid to write the article.....kinda biased like us who actually bought one of them and are amazed at what we pulled out of the box for well under a $1k.

And you can also see a great video at this link as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GlMGVYl4wY

Davidfl
February 13, 2011, 06:05 PM
In regards to ExMachinas post

.45 cal. Range. 5'bbl

gb6491
February 13, 2011, 07:13 PM
guy whats a good 1911 i wanna get a 1911 my range is $800 $1000
I've bought three new 1911's in that price range over the the last 4 months.
They are a Colt Series 80 Government Model, Kimber Custom TLE II, and a Springfield Armory Range Officer.
The Colt malfunctioned it's first range trip: failure to extract becuase of a poorly tensioned extractor. It runs fine after tuning the extractor. The Colt also has a very off center firing pin hit and the notch in the slide for the thumb safety was over machined as well as having a burr in it. There are some cosmetic issues with it as well. I need to drift the rear sight.
The Kimber had two stoppages, dry out of the box (yeah, I went right from the counter to the range): both were failures to return to battery. It runs fine after lubing it correctly; reliable and accurate through about 700 rounds now.
The Springfield needed it's sights adjusted. They could/should fit the back end of the extractor better. It has been reliable and accurate through it's first 300+ rounds.
http://i54.tinypic.com/168tute.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/x5624n.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/b3r3g2.jpg
I find the Kimber and Springer more than satisfactory. I was disappointed with the Colt (especially compared to my other current Colt, an Officer's ACP). YMMV
Regards,
Greg

Ala Dan
February 13, 2011, 07:33 PM
Another vote for the "S&W 1911"~! ;) :cool: :D

Davidfl
February 13, 2011, 08:34 PM
nice guns;) the kimber is nice in the colt

Davidfl
February 13, 2011, 08:36 PM
anyone haves the s&w 1911

makarovnik
February 13, 2011, 09:23 PM
skip the 1911

Davidfl
February 13, 2011, 10:54 PM
y makarovnik

Davidfl
February 13, 2011, 10:57 PM
i just got a cz 75 sp-01 phantom but i wanna get a 1911;)

mljdeckard
February 13, 2011, 11:16 PM
I had a Colt. It was neither mythical nor magical to me. I very much prefer my Kimber.

I think some people attach a traditional sentiment to Colt, because they were the original manufacturer. I place more sentiment to Browning, and Browning never made one.

dcarch
February 13, 2011, 11:31 PM
What ever you get, you won't be sorry you drank the Kool-Aid. I run a modded Kimber Custom II, but just so long as you stick a good reputable manufacturer, you ought to be fine. Just don't forget the old adage: "You get what you pay for." I had a buddy drop $450 for a (cringe) Citadel 1911. It consistently FTF-ed almost every other round, with every 1911 mag froma Wilson Combat to a PSI ACT-Mag. :( But, like I said, stick with a good manufacturer, and it'll be grand! Have a nice day!

The Real Wyatt
February 13, 2011, 11:39 PM
The Real Wyatt do you have a Taurus 1911
Yes, I do.
The Stainless model ... $606 at Buds.

Davidfl
February 14, 2011, 05:48 PM
cool

Almond27
February 14, 2011, 06:42 PM
Get a Springfield loaded stainless and never look back. I'm biased towards Springfield but their lifetime warranty and customer service are one of the best. I've owned a Springfield M1A standard, 1911 loaded stainless and soon to be owner of a Springfield Lightweight Champion loaded.

Davidfl
February 14, 2011, 08:32 PM
nice

Davidfl
February 14, 2011, 08:36 PM
springfield loaded on impactgun for $887

ichiban
February 14, 2011, 08:49 PM
I have two s&w 1911PDs, one 5" and one 4 1/4". These are the scandium frame models so they are lighter than the steel framed ones. Both guns have been totally reliable and almost boring in their accuracy. There is a lightly used one for sale locally at a very good price and even though I have absolutely no need for another, I'm having a hard time talking myself out of it. 1911s are a very expensive disease. :- )

That said, I think most of the manufactures suggested so far put out very good product and their product would serve you well. A lot of times it just comes down to how a particular gun feels in your hand - even though they are the same design there are minor differences that make them feel different. Good luck with your first 1911.

Almond27
February 14, 2011, 08:52 PM
Eh, $887 is high new you should be able to find one for $800 Springfield's Range Officer is also about exactly the same price and is getting really good reviews so far. Either one is a great starter 1911 for less than $1000

Winkman822
February 14, 2011, 09:18 PM
Personally, I have Springfields, Kimbers, a Colt, a Wilson Combat and a Les Baer. In the $800 to $1000 range, the best bang for the buck is going to be a Springfield Loaded or a Colt Combat Elite (either will have all of the modern appointments. Do be warned though, the Colt Combat Elite is going to run the Series 80 system so if you don't want a firing pin block, steer clear of it.

ravot
February 14, 2011, 10:16 PM
What's the firing pin block and it's pros and cons?

Winkman822
February 14, 2011, 11:15 PM
^^ P.M. just sent on the topic.

jeepguy
February 14, 2011, 11:38 PM
for your price range i would look at colt, s&w, & a kimber custom ll. i have a kimber ss pro carry & its great. i had a s&w pd 5" which ran great. i only got rid of it becuse i bought the kimber to carry, but if it was the 4.25 commander size i would still have it. i haven't owned a colt yet, but hope to some day.

Davidfl
February 14, 2011, 11:43 PM
i wanna sell my cz 75 sp-01 phantom with night sights for i can make money for the 1911
can i get 600 for it its never been shot brand new i just got it 1week ago

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