I dont often run into a rifle I can Identify but I am stumped on this one...
At first glance it appears to be a sporterized remington 1917...Its marked "U.S. Model of 1917, Remington, XXXXXX" It does have bomb with flames and eagle proof marks, along with several others...It has a Monte carlo style walnut stock, and the magazine has not been cut down to run straight...
However...The bolt does cock on opening...Which from what I understand was not introduced until after remington started marketing commercially as the "Model 30"... But the rifle is not marked "Model 30" anywhere..
I know that it is chambered in .30-06, but that is not marked either..
Any help would be appreciated
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February 13, 2011, 01:02 AM
conversion kit on the bolt
February 13, 2011, 01:12 AM
Sounds like a Pattern 17 with a commercial stock and the conversion kit. Not all commercial stocks required altering the mag. Several companies made 'drop in' stocks. Bishop and Fajen, for example.
February 13, 2011, 11:30 PM
It is a "sporterized" Model 1917; Model 30's did not have those markings.
"Cock on opening" kits were sold for many years; essentially, they convert the rifle to fire off the firing pin retraction notch in the bolt. That necessitates a stronger firing pin spring but they generally work OK and get away from the "cock on closing" that Americans generally didn't like.
February 14, 2011, 12:59 PM
Dang, thats what I was afraid of guys....
I would rather have an original p17 or a remington Model 30..
Dont like Bubba guns, although this one they did a good job..but the word "sporterized" hurts my ears...oh well...
I still would have bought it for the 100 bucks I have into it, so I guess I shouldnt be too disapointed
February 14, 2011, 02:57 PM
From one point of view, a Model 30 was nothing but a factory sporterized Model 1917. Remington never really "made" any Model 30's or 720's; they were all made from parts leftover after WWI Model 1917 production. They rather cleverly disguised the source by various tricks, but except for non-.30 barrels, sights and stocks, the guns were Model 1917's.
February 16, 2011, 12:56 PM
Don't knock the 1917 Enfield that has been sporterized. I have one that I bought already bubba'ed & went on to work it into a nice rifle.
It has the GI barrel still (was re-barrelled way long time ago with GI barrel) and it shoots right at 1" groups @ 100 yds with no load development (yet).
I realize that I spent too much money on a rifle but I now have an accurate, strong rifle that is fitted to me and made MY way.
Controlled feed a-la Mauser, three way safety, cock on opening, Dayton Traister trigger, full floated, glass bedded, walnut stock.
Picture is before Cera Cote finishing & scope mounting.