S&W M&P pistols


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tercel89
February 13, 2011, 05:11 PM
How would you rate S&W M&P pistols as an all around gun . Relaibility , accuracy and ease of maintenance ?
I am looking at them and real close to getting a M&P9 full size .
It will be a carry gun , woods gun , pretty much an EVERTHING gun as is my Glock 17 . I did hear and read a few years ago of rust problems but no more talk of it anymore .
Any information is appreciated .

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dmeador
February 13, 2011, 05:23 PM
I've had my M&P 40 for about 3 years and absolutely love it. It's an accurate, reliable pistol. Only had one issue with it after about 2 years and several hundred rounds, it started dropping the magazine. A call to S&W and they sent me a new mag. release. It was a very simple replacement, less than 5 min. and it has been flawless since.

tercel89
February 13, 2011, 05:28 PM
I think that was another problem they had . How did S&W fix the whole mag problem ? I know you got a new mag release but did they issue a recall ?
Also what failed on the mag release? was it worn or just bad design?

Evergreen
February 13, 2011, 05:30 PM
Excellent.. I just purchased a S&W M&P 9mm and added CT laser grips to them. The gun really is on par with many of the more expensive semi autos. I personally prefer the feel of it to the more expensive H&Ks and Sigs. I don't think you will find a pistol that offers more accuracy for the price. The only problem I had with reliability was in my M&P 45 and the crappy Fiocci USA ammo. However, the problem is not the gun, but rather the ammo. It doesn't seem to like underpowered ammo. That is the only complaint. However, the gun is very reliable. When, I excluded the Fiocci ammo, I shot over 600 rds without cleaning my M&P 45 without a single hiccup. I am not sure how the M&P 9 handle the underpowered ammo, but why use it, anyway? It functions great with the cheaper Federal Red Box 9mm you can buy at Wal-Mart, which is the cheapest I Can find locally anyway.

IT does all the glock does, but actually feels nice to shoot. I had the feel of the blocky and bulky Glock. However, I Prefer a gun that is not plagued with endless amounts of safeties and doesn't have a nasty and stiff DA pull to put it into SA. IMO, the first shot will be the most important, so why should it be the most difficult? That is another reason I prefer M&P SA configuration.

DAdams
February 13, 2011, 06:10 PM
S&W has literally sold thousands of the M&Ps. Many LEO have standardized on them. I just bought my first M&P and first full sized 9mm in the Pro model with FO sights. I haven't had it out yet, but liked it so well ergonomically and quality wise I just ordered a
40c with night sights and three mags from Code 4 LLC. I am going to get a Storm Lake 9mm barrel for it, making two semiautos in one. I can run the full sized 9 mags in it but will have to get a couple of the compacts.
I never thought of running .357 SIG, but that option is open too for the price of a barrel.

There are a couple of good websites you can peruse:

The S&W Forum
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-pistols/


and
http://mp-pistol.com/boards/

Both excellent sources for all things M&P.

For magazines I have found Greg Cote LLC to have good prices and excellent service.
That said there is a run on "high capacity" magazines right now and since Tucson.

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catnphx
February 13, 2011, 06:11 PM
I've got both a M&P 9 and 9c and love them both. Great, realiable pistol.

piranha45
February 13, 2011, 06:17 PM
I'm very satisfied with my fullsize m&p9. I CC it.

P30shtr
February 13, 2011, 06:52 PM
A buddy of mine just got an M&P 45 and I put, maybe 50 rnds through it. Very nice. I think I like it a hair more than a G19 (for comparison sake because thats the market/manufacturer they're going after). That said, I dont think you could go wrong getting one of your own.

dmeador
February 13, 2011, 07:44 PM
My understanding was that Smith got some releases that had somewhat soft steel and the catch flange just wore prematurley. Once again, it was a very easy fix and I assume S&W just handled the issues as they came up rather than issuing a recall.

Manco
February 14, 2011, 01:38 PM
How would you rate S&W M&P pistols as an all around gun . Relaibility , accuracy and ease of maintenance ?

Based on my own experiences, I would say that it's an excellent all-around service pistol. It's also my favorite with regard to ergonomics, although obviously this will vary among individuals.

I did hear and read a few years ago of rust problems but no more talk of it anymore .

Rust issues still come up occasionally, and virtually always with guns made during certain periods when S&W had some trouble with how the finish was applied (long story, but in a nutshell the corrosion resistance of the stainless steel was actually spoiled by improper application of the finish :eek: ). I've yet to hear about such issues with the latest M&Ps, and even my slightly older one (before they refined their processes) has never had any rust issues. It's a rather "mature" design for the relatively short time it has been around.

How did S&W fix the whole mag problem ? I know you got a new mag release but did they issue a recall ?
Also what failed on the mag release? was it worn or just bad design?

The part was too soft and wore out quickly, so they toughened it up pretty early on, and I haven't heard about any such problems since.

The only current issue that I'm aware of is the white dots falling off the sights occasionally--it's apparently a new issue and will probably be resolved before long, I would think. It's easy to fix, of course.

pacerdude
February 14, 2011, 01:42 PM
I love my full size M&P 40, it has been very reliable and it fits my hand like a glove.

theoldgoat
February 14, 2011, 02:18 PM
This is my favorite gun hands down. Get a M&P40. Pick up a 357 Sig barrel, a Storm Lake 9mm conversion barrel, and some 9mm mags, and have three guns in one.

Use the 9mm for practice and carry the gun with the 40 or the Sig set-up.

My M&P40 has less recoil with the 40 or 357 loads than my Sigma SW9F 9mm. It has made me a better shooter than I really am. I have two full size 40's and I am in the market for a M&P40c (compact) at this very moment. I plan on getting the Sig and conversion 9mm barrels as the slush funds allows.

The Lone Haranguer
February 14, 2011, 07:43 PM
I had a 9C that had 100% perfect functioning.

jon_in_wv
February 14, 2011, 07:58 PM
I would bet a new M&P would be a great shooter. I highly doubt you would have any problems out of a new one. I have an early M&P 9C with nearly 7000 rounds through it and it has been great. Smith could have used a stiffer spring for the mag release to be sure but I haven't had any problems with mine.

RH45
February 14, 2011, 09:26 PM
I made the mistake of trying a couple of M&Ps. I ran some drills, on the clock, against my Glocks and was really surprised to find that I was faster, and more accurate with the M&Ps over my Glocks.

My Glocks haven't been out of the safe since.

derek45
February 14, 2011, 11:34 PM
Great pistol


Easy to do a really nice trigger job

samurai
February 15, 2011, 09:49 AM
I've got 4-9fs,9c,45fs and 45c. They are very accurate, easy to carry and fun to shoot.

cfullgraf
February 15, 2011, 11:04 AM
I have been happy with my M&Ps.

I did hear and read a few years ago of rust problems but no more talk of it anymore .
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As a side note, stainless steel is called "stain-less" for a reason and not "stain-proof". Some stainless steel is more corrosion resistant than others and chemicals can effect the resistance. Manco's explanation sounds reasonable. My M&Ps have been corrosion free in 2 years of ownership.

vettekiller
February 15, 2011, 02:39 PM
does anyone have dimensions on the m&p compact? the website only gives weight and barrel length

speaksoftly
February 15, 2011, 05:37 PM
M&P's are amazing guns and the price is right. I've been shooting them for years and I love them just as much as I love my $1000 Sigs.

Vettekiller, here ya go.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_M%26P

Varob
February 15, 2011, 06:48 PM
The ergonomics of my M&P are great, however, the trigger is a little spongy out of the box.

It did get better after a few hundred rounds and a few hundred more dry fires.

RobMoore
February 15, 2011, 06:54 PM
The only time I notice the trigger on the M&P is when I'm in slow fire, which isn't often.

When I want to stand and plink away tight groups, I grab my 1911.

When I shoot competitions, carry, shoot steel, or general fun @ speed, I grab the M&P.

derek45
February 15, 2011, 08:13 PM
I've 5 trigger jobs on the M&P, very easy to get great results, and you don't have to replace any parts

Here's how.....

http://www.burwellguns.com/M&Ptriggerjob1.htm

iwilc2
February 15, 2011, 08:57 PM
I have both a full size M&P 9 and a 9c. Both great guns

jon_in_wv
February 18, 2011, 10:07 AM
does anyone have dimensions on the m&p compact? the website only gives weight and barrel length

M&P 9C

Max Slide Width: 1.09" (1.03 across the contoured part of the slide from the extractor forward)
Max Width: 1.28" (across the ambi slide catch)
Max Frame Width: 1.15"
Overall Length: 6.7" (from the web, by calipers only went up to 6 inch)
Trigger guard width: .57"
Trigger Reach: 2.63" (with trigger at rest)
Max Height: (Measured from the bottom of the mag to the top of the slide)
4.34" (flush mag)
4.85" (factory finger rest mag)
Max Grip Frame Width: 1.30" (medium insert)
Grip Frame Width parallel to the trigger: 1.08" (but it tapers slightly thinner towards the trigger)
Muzzle height: 1.53" (Measured from the bottom of the light rail to the top of the slide)

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