Bersa Firestorm 22 LR


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Gun Geezer
February 14, 2011, 09:53 PM
Anybody have one or have experience with one of these?

Assuming it is the same size as the 380, I like the size, grip, etc. But, I have never held one and have no idea about the trigger.

I'm wanting this to let the kids and wife shoot at the range. I really don't want Walther P22 or Sig Mosquito.

Well, anybody have experience with the Bersa Firestorm 22LR?

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varoadking
February 14, 2011, 09:58 PM
I own one. It's a fun plinker...

Gun Geezer
February 14, 2011, 10:05 PM
VAROADKING: Tell me more!

It the trigger at least reasonable? Something less than 27#?

Will it likely stand up to more than a few 1000 rounds?

I gots to know!

scandmx5
February 14, 2011, 10:17 PM
come over to my lil forum i just got started up. we have a section just for the Thunder/Firestorm .22 with a few members that own them and can tell you all about it.
www.bersalive.forumotion.com

stolivar
February 14, 2011, 10:45 PM
It is the same size as the 380. Mine will only shoot CCI's or remington vipers high velocity 1500 fps.. I don't know why they have so heavy of a recoil spring.



steve

W L Johnson
February 14, 2011, 11:23 PM
Had one for some years now, the only bad part is getting it back from whomever you loaned it to at the range. Seems it always makes it's way into their range bag somehow.

MICHAEL T
February 15, 2011, 12:55 AM
Their same size as the 380 and like a lot of 22 some can be ammo picky .

I have many members with them and all like them

http://bersachat.com

Home of Bersa pistols and American Classic

usp9
February 15, 2011, 10:51 AM
My Firestorm FS22 was less than reliable. I own several other similar .22s and in comparison the FS22 just did not compare well. In fairness the Firestorm was cheaper, but compared to my Walther PPK/S and my Daewoo DP52, I found the Firestorm lacking. A nice sized gun with good features...I just wish it worked better and was a little higher quality... I'd pay more for a better gun.

tekarra
February 15, 2011, 10:46 PM
I sure would like one.

KevininPa
February 17, 2011, 12:09 PM
If you've handled the .380 then you know what it's like to handle the FS22. Same size, trigger , handling etc. This info comes to me 'cause I used to own the .380. Got rid of that 'cause I got a great deal on a Sig 232SL. If Bersa would bring out the .380 with a stainless slide and components with the alloy frame I'd get rid of the Sig. Liked Bersas controls better. It's a summer sweat factor thing. And I don't like nickel.

Anyway, I digress. The FS22 is great, cheap practice for these style of pistols (Bersa Thunder,232,PPK etc.). More accurate than you would think, but no target gun. Trigger isn't half bad, like the .380. Only complaint is that it runs better on the better stuff. CCI Mini-Mags will do for practice. Hotter Stingers and Velocitors is what I keep in it for dog walking for pests. Live rural, don't always need a heavier hitter. The bulk stuff gives problems. But it's still cheaper than .380. Gotta lot of rounds through mine. I'm not worried about it lasting a long time.

Go get one and have fun!

mxl
February 17, 2011, 01:00 PM
Mine runs ok on Rem. Golden and CCI MiniMags. It chokes on Fed. bulk and anything that is standard velocity. I polished the innards and did a little spring trimming and the trigger pull is acceptable. A fun plinker. I like the finger grooves in the grips. I'd buy another.

modifiedbrowning
February 17, 2011, 07:31 PM
I have the Firestorm 22/6 (6 inch barrel). It definitely likes the hotter ammo, I use CCI Minimags. Mine doesn't like bulk ammo very much.
Mine has a good trigger and is plenty accurate.
If you can find one buy it, it is a fun little plinker.

NMGonzo
February 17, 2011, 07:39 PM
That was my first auto pistol, well the Bersa 23 actually that precedes the firestorm by a couple generations.

We shot the most disgusting, cheap, obscure, obscene ammo out of that puppy and the only failures to eject were because some of the brass cracked.

It fed all day long and all night, pretty overbuilt for a 22.

Likes really hot ammo and don't drop the mags! ... they are not THAT sturdy.

It was my daily carry way back when.

danez71
February 17, 2011, 09:29 PM
I just bought one and fired it last weekend for the first time.

I fired 300 rounds of literally 15+ yr old CCI mini mags from 3 different mags (100 each mag).

All I did was disassemble, saw that one of the rails was dry. Added some Hoppes to that side only and went for it. I did not clean and relube.

I did not have a single failure of any kind.

Its fun and compact. I may get rid of the finger grooove grips but I'll wait and see.

I'm going to try cheap copper plated/washed next.


EDIT: I just wanted to add that I didnt want to come across as a Bersa fanboy. This is my only bersa I have ever fired and I was somewhat surprised of the outcome of my first outing. I really wabted a buckmark but for some strange reason, the PPKs styling drew me to it. Purely an emotional buy.... and I wanted a 22 pistol plinker.

Wil Terry
February 18, 2011, 12:22 PM
MY personal BERSA M23 22LR has nearly 20,000 rounds through it and has never malfed a single round, not so much as one stoppage, jam etc !!! All four magazines[ two blue, two electroless nickle ] have worked perfectly too obviously.
It is accurate enough to pick off blackbirds out to 35 yards or so. The trigger, both SA and DA is just fine. I have not shot it in years now as something else came along and grabbed my fancy...many times over by now....
Ans so it goes...

franko07
March 7, 2011, 11:24 PM
i bought one Friday after my 2 week wait for it. I shot 40 (20 winchester wildcats, 20 remington) rounds through it right out of the box 2 min after fedex dropped it off, it only failed to eject once.

today i shot it again with what i would consider great results, it is very accurate even with bulk ammo.

80 winchester wildcats, (30 leftover from friday and 50 out of a new box) the 30 fed perfect however the new box sucked(i think it got dropped and damaged the cases).
30 leftover remingtons which were the least accurate.

50 federal match grade with great accuracy, it was quite finiky about ejecting the cases. just kinda wanted to see the difference between the match and non.

all was good so i decided to try a 500 box of .22 thunderbolt bulk box, they functioned the best out of all of the others and 2nd most accurate to the match ammo (+.5"-1") difference. ive purchased some mini-mags and a couple of others to try(not here yet) but im problably going to stick to the thunderbolts for price/accuracy balance.

all done at 10-15 yards

my only complaint is that it should be double stack so i dont have to reload so quick

Pilot
March 8, 2011, 08:16 AM
I'd like to get one of these for my wife as she loves to shoot .22's, as do I, but I can never find one for sale.

danez71
March 8, 2011, 09:19 AM
Davidsons' gungenie had 19 of them last night. A few alll black and the rest were duo tone.

Thats where/how I bought mine in Feb.

CajunBass
March 8, 2011, 09:54 AM
I bought one for my wife years ago. She was new to shooting and had just gotten her CHP. She tried a couple of other guns, but the recoil intimidated her. So I got the little Bersa. She loved it.

She put thousands of rounds through it. I don't have an actual count, I'd guess at least 5,000. It ran like a watch with CCI mini-mags, but choked on most cheap, bulk pack type ammo. We found a spare magazine for it at a gun show, and it was her CC gun for years.

It's no target gun, but it's plenty accurte enough for plinking. I've never handled the .380 but it looks like the same gun, just with a bigger hole in the muzzle.

BTW. If you want a CC holster for it, the Don Hume J.I.T. Belt slide for a Makarov is a perfect fit.

johnnyd42289
March 19, 2011, 07:25 PM
hey guys, I just bought one of these and i must say it is a blast BUT! I am shooting very low. I was wondering if there are better sights available or if theres any tricks yall may know. thanks in advance

John

NMGonzo
March 19, 2011, 08:44 PM
Bersas are aimed to cover the target for some esoteric Argentine custom.

That is how they teach us Argentines to shoot.

chrome_austex
March 19, 2011, 11:05 PM
22lr recoil in a small, but decently heavy package, great rubber grips w/ finger grooves, good light trigger, smooth operation, cheap to own and shoot, and accurate enough. So, yeah, mines pretty fun.

Mine has the same preference for high velocity ammo (it feeds fine and slides smooth, but needs the power to overcome the slide spring). Std velocity rifle ammo does not cycle. CCI mini mags usually get the nod, and function very reliably.

The soft (aluminum?) slide does often slip the slide stop on mine, usually when its resting on the bench. Not a big deal.

Overall, a great plinker and service pistol trainer, and it fits my hand like a glove.

(Hey, is that Don Hume a Makarov ?9mm? holster? I need one..)

stolivar
March 20, 2011, 12:38 AM
That mine will shoot the cheaper CCI blazer ammo...... yea


steve

cardinalfan
March 20, 2011, 05:48 PM
I picked up one of these last year and was told that not very many are imported into the US. Can be very hard to find. It does seem to be a bit ammo sensitive and prefers 40gr over 36gr especially. The more I shoot it, the better it gets ammo wise. Bought it for just plinking, much cheaper to shoot even if reloading for other guns.

knifeguy68
March 21, 2011, 12:39 AM
I got the Thunder 22 yesterday. Basically the same gun. I always buy Blazer bulk 22 since it has been perfectly reliable in all the 22s I have put it through. Same for this gun.
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x369/knifeguy68/knives%20watches%20light/DSC_0008-1.jpg

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x369/knifeguy68/knives%20watches%20light/DSC_0015.jpg

WardenWolf
March 21, 2011, 01:23 AM
Well, I wasn't impressed with the trigger on a guy's Bersa .380. Trigger creep from hell. I thought it'd never break. Can't speak for the .22 version, though.

chicharrones
March 24, 2011, 12:15 AM
Davidsons' gungenie had 19 of them last night. A few alll black and the rest were duo tone.

Thats where/how I bought mine in Feb.

The last three were gone by the evening of March 21st. I'm guilty of taking one off their inventory that day and I just picked it up this evening. http://bestsmileys.com/misbehaving/10.gif

http://www.lssdigital.com/lwpilot/nc/fs-1.jpg

danez71
March 24, 2011, 10:32 AM
Hey.... that looks like my FS22's brother from another mother! (mines all black)

Let us... or me via PM ... know how this works out for you.

chicharrones
March 24, 2011, 04:56 PM
I plan to check it properly at an indoor range next week. :cool:

I did expect this gun to be a cheap clunker, but it is surprisingly well made. Not Colt Python status, but I was half expecting "Saturday Night Special", which is not the case.

I can't stand the finger grooves though. I might cut them off, or order a set of wood grips. It's not the Firestorm's fault, though. I tend to not work well with any finger grooves. :p

chicharrones
March 24, 2011, 10:05 PM
I got the scissors out and cut off the finger grooves. I like it much better now. Rubber finger grooves feel like I'm squeezing clay, which is probably the idea. Somehow, I hate the feeling of squeezing clay. :p

chicharrones
March 26, 2011, 11:24 AM
Yesterday I only fired a few magazines to check it for function. The only trouble at this point is that a magazine packed with all 10 rounds of .22LR has trouble letting the first round chamber. This is because there is a ton of spring pressure in the full mag and the top round is locked in hard. With 9 rounds, function is flawless with the CCI Mini Mags I used yesterday. I'm hoping that the mag issue gets better once the magazine is "broken in".

This looks like a very promising little pistola. I hope to get many years from it because I love plinkers. http://bestsmileys.com/love1/24.gif

Here's a pic with the wrap around finger grooves cut off.

http://www.lssdigital.com/lwpilot/nc/fs-grip.jpg

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