Which Night Sights for my Glock 26 Gen 4?


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withoutink
February 15, 2011, 12:11 PM
Ok, since I am going to be carrying my newly purchased Glock 26 Gen 4... often at night. I will be needing a set of night sights..

I have never had a set of night sights before so I am unsure whats best. I know there is...

Trijicon
Ameriglo
Meprolite
TruGlo
ect...

Looking for sights that can be used easily in Day / Dusk / Night / Dark House... Something that wont cause issue with the holster. Durable, long lasting, bright.

What would your recommendations be?

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mbruce
February 15, 2011, 12:14 PM
Truglo TFO...

why you ask -- well because they are Fiber Optics which is super cool for shooting outdoors at the range... and they contain the tridium for night sights.

I don't buy night sights..like many here point out -- after shot #1 they are useless...and if you can't see the object your shooting at then night sights are useless anyways...and odds are you will be "pointing and shooting" rather than aiming....


Ameriglo has first rate customer service. Excellent staff.

if you're budget allows a Crimson Trace Laser grip is a great way to go.

meytind
February 15, 2011, 12:36 PM
http://www.ameriglo.net/catalog/sights/pistol-sights/glock/night-sights/complete-sets/i-dot

Ameriglo (model GL 202) I-Dot Pro with the green front and yellow rear get my vote. The big orange ring around the front sight really draws your focus, making acquiring a sight picture faster. The subdued yellow tritium vial on the rear sight helps keep your focus to the front sight in low light environments while still providing feedback on sight alignment. The two dot configuration always struck me as less busy than the three dot, thus speeding up sight picture acquisition.

areagan
February 15, 2011, 12:46 PM
The biggest ones you can find. Makes it easier to find your gun at night in the drawer as that all they are good for anyway in my opinion.

ForumSurfer
February 15, 2011, 01:18 PM
I've tried all the ones you listed on different guns at different points. Also tried some big dots and glock factory night sights.

Without a doubt my hands down favorite are Heinie Slant Pro Straight 8's. They should come up with a shorter name, though!

Let me start off by saying that I prefer all black sights and a thin front sight blade. The dots on this one don't bother me and the front sight profile allows for excellent sight pictures no matter if you're shooting quickly at short distances or trying to hit that gong at ridiculously long ranges. I can't recommend these enough, and I've tried several.

http://www.heinie.com/product_info.php?cPath=9_11&products_id=47

I wish I would have bought the "ledge" series that Heinie offers. They are identical except the ledge series has a notch for one handed slide manipulation.

tackleberry45
February 15, 2011, 03:17 PM
My Glocks wear AmeriGlo. EXCELLENT customer service to if you have an issue.

BlackSky
February 15, 2011, 06:46 PM
When making this decision I went with Heinie slant pro straight eight night sights on my G36. I'm very pleased with them.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5862/dsc06581y.jpg

mbruce
February 15, 2011, 07:07 PM
hmm...those do look good.

REAPER4206969
February 15, 2011, 07:14 PM
XS BigDot.

ForumSurfer
February 15, 2011, 09:12 PM
When making this decision I went with Heinie slant pro straight eight night sights on my G36. I'm very pleased with them.

XS BigDot.

I have both. I really, really like both. I think I'll be ditching the big dots in favor of the heinie's though. Excuse the lousy cell phone pics and the corny reaper cover (bday present probably destined for the wts forums here).

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p188/johnnnyhgmail/CIMG0042.jpghttp://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p188/johnnnyhgmail/CIMG0041.jpg

DougW
February 15, 2011, 10:41 PM
XS 24/7 Big Dot works well on my 2Gen G26 (and all of my Glocks).

bnz43
February 17, 2011, 03:49 PM
Trijicon just from a customer service standpoint. I damaged the front night sight on my Glock 26 and they replaced it no questions asked. Really nice sights also. Not as cheap as Meprolight sights but a quality sight.

abuelo
February 18, 2011, 09:33 PM
+ 1 for the Tru-glo TFO sights. Have one set and plan on ordering more.

gvf
February 19, 2011, 04:47 AM
I've tried all the ones you listed on different guns at different points. Also tried some big dots and glock factory night sights.

Without a doubt my hands down favorite are Heinie Slant Pro Straight 8's. They should come up with a shorter name, though!

Let me start off by saying that I prefer all black sights and a thin front sight blade. The dots on this one don't bother me and the front sight profile allows for excellent sight pictures no matter if you're shooting quickly at short distances or trying to hit that gong at ridiculously long ranges. I can't recommend these enough, and I've tried several.

http://www.heinie.com/product_info.php?cPath=9_11&products_id=47

I wish I would have bought the "ledge" series that Heinie offers. They are identical except the ledge series has a notch for one handed slide manipulation.
Do you need a special tool to insert these on slide?

zebco
February 19, 2011, 07:39 AM
I'm glad this thread is exists, because I was wondering if night sights are worth it. I understand that you'll only really see them on the first shot, but what about Truglo sights during the day? Are they better for daytime use standard sights? Do they have a better sight picture (I guess that's the correct terminology?)

ForumSurfer
February 19, 2011, 11:08 AM
Do you need a special tool to insert these on slide?

Me? I say it depends on your mechanical skills. I've mounted several sets of sights with a brass punch and a hammer or a punch and a soft blow hammer without damaging or marring the finish. Dovetail peg in a dovetail hole. It only goes in one way. :) See this thread:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=574915

I understand that you'll only really see them on the first shot

Not really. The muzzle flash isn't so blinding that you go temporarily blind. I still see the little green dots when I practice in dim or no light. /my 2 cents

withoutink
February 20, 2011, 07:27 PM
Ended up with some ameriglo i dots. couldnt find anywhere local that carried heinie sights. these idots are pretty similar though and have a slightly wider rear site window .180 vs .156 with the heinie sights i was going to get.

ForumSurfer
February 20, 2011, 11:01 PM
Update this post with what you think of them. Cheaper than my heinie's! I've actually never seen those idots. I might get those whenever I need a new set.

bubbinator
February 21, 2011, 01:59 AM
My SA 1911 has Novaks, nowgetting old and soon to be replaced by Heinie's. My G21 has had 2 sets, one wore out and was replaced w/ Tru-Glo -nice easy to see dots. A former partner was a SWAT member with a local SO before coming to us and they carried SA 1911s. They tried the XS Big Dots and soon rejected them, covered too much of target, not as accurate. They went with TruGlo-available @local major LE supplier in stock. They were well satisfied. My issue G22 carries TruGlos, not Glock night sights for some reason.

Rick Roll
February 21, 2011, 02:08 AM
+1 on Trijicon. I love mine on my G19.

Ala Dan
February 21, 2011, 09:11 AM
+2 on the Tru-Glo TFO's; as I have 'em on my Springfield XD-45 ACP~! ;) :D

NoAlibi
February 21, 2011, 12:04 PM
mbruce: "-- after shot #1 they are useless"

Don't you think having an advantage on the first shot is worth the price of admission alone?

mbruce: "if you're budget allows a Crimson Trace Laser grip is a great way to go."

When bringing up your handgun quickly would it be harder (slower) to find the projected dot in your field of view and putting it on the target as opposed to aligning the night sights and put them on the target?

Any thoughts about the laser dot giving away your position making it a target for the BG to shoot at?

ForumSurfer
February 21, 2011, 12:22 PM
Any thoughts about the laser dot giving away your position making it a target for the BG to shoot at? I once owned a beretta 96 with factory crimson trace grips. My observations from shooting at night:



I could still see my night sights for each shot.



The red dot on the target was a helpful aide, assuming you train with it.



After several shot while standing one spot, there was a red beam pointing directly at me since smoke was hanging in the air.
If it was reallllly foggy out(or a heavy mist), that red beam was always there.
Since the beam is activated by a pressure switch, it is always on.
My girlfriend at the time had a dog that the time chased that red beam like it would take him to a never ending source of bacon. Poor fella couldn't go shooting with us. The one time I did take him, he tackled my target stand at full blast. 90lbs worth of boxer snapped my 1x4 uprights.

Take from that what you will. :)

My take? I'm wanting to get defensive shots off as quickly as possible. If that laser gives me an edge, I'll use it. If you are referring to a sustained firefight with a skilled opponent...then yes, that red dot could most certainly give you away. It is up to you to decide what will fill your needs.

ForumSurfer
February 21, 2011, 12:34 PM
Interesting read:

http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_training/nsights_080906/index.html

Thlax
February 21, 2011, 01:40 PM
I just got xs big dot. Will let you know how they are next weekend.

Midwayusa had a special for $89. Still is going on.

Zerodefect
February 21, 2011, 01:43 PM
Hienie's are my favorite night sights. The Ledge rear sight is very nice.

I took my XS sights off. They are too slow at ranges past 10y. And I don't need sights when closer than 10y.

ForumSurfer
February 21, 2011, 02:27 PM
I just got xs big dot. Will let you know how they are next weekend.

I have a set, they work great for up close work (15-20 yards or less).


I took my XS sights off. They are too slow at ranges past 10y

True, but only at first. With enough practice, they are just as fast as traditional sights. With enough practice, any sights mentioned thus far are great.

Thlax
February 21, 2011, 04:19 PM
perfect. with my g23 i dont shoot past that distance except once in a blue moon.

withoutink
February 21, 2011, 08:12 PM
Here are some pics of the I-DOTS (Ameriglo)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5094/5466336540_4d67af82c5_b.jpg
Front sight is tritium + the orange outline

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5211/5465737167_889e47552e_b.jpg
rear sight is tritium with .180 rear sight window.

gym
February 21, 2011, 08:36 PM
I use them on the front site only. I put my 2nd on my glock30, after 12 years. Trijicon, offered to replace it for free, if i would send the slide in to them. I must say they stand behind their products. For 30 bucks it wasn't worth laying up and shipping the gun. I find them good when you are reaching for your gun late at night, especially if you were asleep and something went bump in the night. I bought 3 guns in the past 6 months, replacing 3 others that I did not shoot. So I still need to put the front on 2 of them. the lcp dosen't have that concern. But the taurus slim and the g26 need them now.

withoutink
February 22, 2011, 08:09 AM
Going to try and make it to the range today on my lunch break. If I do, Ill try the new sights out and report back.

Thlax
February 22, 2011, 02:58 PM
My big dots should be here tomorrow from MidwayUSA (on sale for 89$ now). Going to the range tomorrow so if they're here I'll instal them and shoot and report back, if not it'll be here this weekend and I'll shoot and report.

NoAlibi
February 22, 2011, 03:26 PM
ForumSurfer - Thanks for the reply and the benefit of sharing your experience with lasers and night sights.

Thanks to all that provided pictures and links - they have been very useful in helping me make a decision in their regard. If anyone has a link (Name of Manufacturer) for the XS Big Dot I would appreciate it.....Doc

One other question: I was rasied on plain, black sights - I am comfortable with them shoot them well.

1 - Is that going to present a problem using night sights during the day?

2 - If there is a problem, do you think training will overcome it?

3 - Would it be better to use a gun with plain sights during the day and
a night-sighted gun for evening wear? (I can see a logistics problem and
problem being in a well lit area at night with only a night-sighted gun.)

Any thoughts?

withoutink
February 22, 2011, 04:11 PM
I like these I-DOTS by ameriglo. the front site is highlighted with an orange circle to acquire the site fast. Two thumbs up here..

ForumSurfer
February 22, 2011, 05:17 PM
One other question: I was rasied on plain, black sights - I am comfortable with them shoot them well.

Me, too. I prefer plain black, serrated all day long. I think that is why I'm a fan of the Heinie's. I'll take better pics tonight so you can see what I mean since we have similar preferences.

1 - Is that going to present a problem using night sights during the day?

It was for me.

2 - If there is a problem, do you think training will overcome it?

An open mind, training and practice make us overcome many things. Sights are pretty easy to adapt to. But if you want/need/feel moved to change them, you may as weell get what you like.

3 - Would it be better to use a gun with plain sights during the day and
a night-sighted gun for evening wear? (I can see a logistics problem and
problem being in a well lit area at night with only a night-sighted gun.)

Maybe it is just me, but that seems crazy. :)

If anyone has a link (Name of Manufacturer) for the XS Big Dot I would appreciate it.....Doc

http://www.xssights.com/store/handgun.html

ForumSurfer
February 22, 2011, 08:01 PM
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p188/johnnnyhgmail/Glock_Sights/DSCF1538.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p188/johnnnyhgmail/Glock_Sights/DSCF1528.jpg

Excuse the lousy photography skills. :(

charliehustle10
February 22, 2011, 10:46 PM
XS big dot Sight on front...I don't bother changing out the rear sights...Even if you don't get Big Dots, not that necessary to change out the rear sight.

AWorthyOpponent
February 22, 2011, 11:40 PM
Personally, I like sights that do not LOOK like night sights. I dont want everyone in a dark room to know where i am based on my sights....

I like the constant dim of these:

Sorry to use this pic, its of a firearm I sold, but you get the point.
http://www.dan-shannon.com/storage/glock22.jpg

Geno
February 23, 2011, 12:09 AM
I had the Trijicon installed on my G19C. I haven't had the time to get them on the G17 and G26 yet.

Geno

ForumSurfer
February 23, 2011, 12:24 AM
XS big dot Sight on front...I don't bother changing out the rear sights...Even if you don't get Big Dots, not that necessary to change out the rear sight.

Agreed. I just find that whit "U" to be distracting. No matter how much I practice, my eye is drawn to focus on it like a moth to a flame. I can get by with the factory sights just fine, but only after I paint that "U" with a sharpie. It's the shooter that is a problem, not the sight. :)

NoAlibi
February 23, 2011, 01:27 AM
ForumSurfer - Again, thanks for the reply to my questions.

Also, the article in the gun rag was interesting. I like articles where the author converts himself by experimentation. They're usually more credible, imo, than the usual proving-my-point fare we often see.

Apparently, my misspelling prevented me from Googling XS Big Dot and your link got me to their site where I found the following instruction (posted below) to make more precise hits at the longer distances.

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx119/kemmasabeh/ggXSBigDotAlignment.gif

ET
February 23, 2011, 01:53 AM
Good thread. I am running Heinie's on only one of my guns. I been going back & forth as to what I really want on all of my guns. I want the same sight picture on every one of them, but I'm no where close to achiving that right now. This helps narrow it down some but I need to study it more. Paralysis through analysis I guess...





:banghead:

gohogs93
February 23, 2011, 02:19 AM
I like Novaks (:

Joker19
February 24, 2011, 09:58 AM
Great things IF the target was also lighted. Night sights do what all sights do, they aligned the barrel to a target. If it is dark and you can't see the target then it is a mute point now isn't it? I use the CTC laser grip and when the dot arrives at the target then disaster will follow shortly! Also the older we get the less the eyes focus, especially at night (I should know) and this in itself puts all alignment sights out. My Sig P220 has the CTC grips and I can put round after round into a target 4" at 50 ft. in all lighting conditions. Don't waste money on night sites.

ForumSurfer
February 24, 2011, 11:35 AM
Great things IF the target was also lighted. Night sights do what all sights do, they aligned the barrel to a target. If it is dark and you can't see the target then it is a mute point now isn't it?

I completely and respectfully disagree. We are most certainly not moot, if it is sooooo dark that I can't see the target exactly how do I identify this black blob in a sea of blackness? I train and practice for self defense. I have to identify my target or I could be shooting an LEO, my girlfriend or my kids. If there is enough light to identify what I am shooting, then there is enough light to stack my two green dots center of mass.

I use the CTC laser grip and when the dot arrives at the target then disaster will follow shortly!

Because batteries never die. :) I'm just saying, I've owned CTC's before and liked them...but I can live without them. I can live without night sights, too. I can live without good defensive ammo since I never actually use it in self defense. See where I'm going? Why not allow yourself to be prepared?

Also the older we get the less the eyes focus, especially at night (I should know) and this in itself puts all alignment sights out.

Yes, our eyes do lose focus. But I shoot at night or in the dark so I know my eyes can focus well enough to get a good sight picture...muzzle flash and all.

My Sig P220 has the CTC grips and I can put round after round into a target 4" at 50 ft. in all lighting conditions.

So can my glocks, my 1911 and pretty much any other defensive weapon that I own with night sights.

Don't waste money on night sites.

That's your opinion. Just because you may never use them, doesn't mean they are a waste. By the same logic, those hollow tips that you never shoot anyone with are also a waste.

IMO night sights, a flashlight and CTC grips are a great combo. But I'm fine with just night sights and a light in my pocket.

DonGlock26
March 26, 2011, 10:34 PM
I have Big Dot sights on my G-26. They are fast at CQB range, which is what I wanted. I just got a set of CT laser grips for my 442 snubby. I can't wait to try them out.

duncan
March 26, 2011, 10:41 PM
If you want the brightest - TFO's

But the factory Glock night sights aka Meps are great too.

I'm considering both for my Glock 27.

But my police range will sell me a set of new Meps for $56.

Can't beat that!

duncan
March 26, 2011, 10:44 PM
I love the concept of the XS big dot sights BUT my sub one inch groups at 25 yards with my HKP7 opened up to 1.5" inches with the XS sights even after extensive training with them and their instruction.

Took them off my P7.

They are very fast though.

camsdaddy
April 5, 2011, 10:30 PM
I currently have XS big dots on my 26. 85% of all shooting and 100% semi shooting prior to my Glock have been a 3 dot site. I am thinking of getting rid of my XS and going to a 3 dot. I dont have problems with quick shots with 3 dot and find that my accuracy isnt as strong with the XS. I know it may be the shooter and I know in a defensive situation I probably wont aim with my dots. I accept that. I want the shooter to have every advantage I can get and not every shot is defensive. Some shots are me being attacked by paper plates, coke cans, steel plates for those I like seeing small holes close together.

duncan
April 6, 2011, 02:11 AM
I just jumped and added the Glock factory night sights to my G27. Mep tritium vials and very bright.

And if you buy them from an authorized LEA vendor you get the $56 factory pricing too.:neener:

Very happy as my CCW guns all have three dot night sights - Glock and Meps.

benEzra
April 6, 2011, 11:13 AM
I've had very good experience with Trijicon, which are very crisp. I would suggest getting different color front and rears (e.g., green front, yellow rears) to avoid the "which dot is which" issue.

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