Indiana Jones
Kingson
January 3, 2004, 09:57 PM
I got the Indiana jones DVD box set for Chrismas and just finished watching it and I think they goofed on some guns that they had in them.
In Raiders of the Lot Ark, it took place in 1937 but alot of the bad guys had MP40's.
In The Last Crusade it took place in 1938 and they had MP40's (thou they could have been MP38's, but they looked like MP40's)
did any of you else notice this or am I wrong?
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Mike Irwin
January 3, 2004, 10:03 PM
Hum...
An action movie out of Hollywood...
Nah, they'd NEVER use the wrong guns in one of those! :)
Trebor
January 3, 2004, 10:55 PM
Yes, the German's guns were not correct for the times and Indy's rocket launcher at the end of the movie was a Soviet RPG, but you missed the BIGGEST mistake in the movie. In 1936 Eygpt was British territory (a protecterate possibly?) not German. There's not way the Brits would have let the German military run around like they owned the place the way they did in that movie.
A great sight for info on Indy's guns and gear is www.indygear.com It turns out his revolver was a S&W HE2 in .455 Eley with the barrel cut down to 4".
ChiefPilot
January 3, 2004, 11:37 PM
And the 'Temple of Doom' had Indy and friends flying in a Ford Trimotor. When the pilots bail out, we see a VOR/glideslope indicator no less (50's - 60's technology) and an RMI (even later) in the instrument panel.
I love how Indy couldn't figure out in Raiders whether he liked a Hi Power or the revolver (S&W?) better either....
Still among my all-time favorite movies, though.
Double Naught Spy
January 4, 2004, 10:10 AM
Dude, they didn't goof. The story is fiction. In the story's reality, those things existed!
Suffice it to say that especially as a finctional story, there is no need to adhere to absolute chronology. The weapons are provided to provide atmosphere, attitude, tone, and context and not meant as documented facts.
Mike Irwin
January 4, 2004, 02:31 PM
You know, come to think of it, I don't think the Nazis ever set a foot on Egyptian soil during WW II, did they?
Dave Markowitz
January 4, 2004, 05:06 PM
You know, come to think of it, I don't think the Nazis ever set a foot on Egyptian soil during WW II, did they?
The battle of El Alamein was fought in Egypt.
4v50 Gary
January 4, 2004, 05:07 PM
El Alamein?
rms/pa
January 4, 2004, 05:08 PM
sorry mike, al alimaine(sp?) is well within eygpt. ttbomk they got within 60 miles of alexandria.
rms/pa
spelling errors are mine. no responsibility is ascribed to a depraved childhood.
Mike Irwin
January 4, 2004, 05:23 PM
Whoops.
Senior moment. You're right. For some reason when I thought about it I thought El Chowmein was in Eastern Libya...
BHPshooter
January 4, 2004, 06:15 PM
Sorry... big Indyfan here... Raiders took place in 1936. :D
And yes, you're right, there are MP40s in there, also, there are many P38s in there too. ;) If your really looking for anachronisms, look for the Golden Gate bridge when Indy leaves San Francisco. ;)
Wes
Kamicosmos
January 4, 2004, 07:59 PM
I always liked how Indy's Gun had a much more 'Manly' sound to it.
The 'making of' DVD in the set goes into the foley stuff a bit. Indy's gun sound is actually a 30-30! Heh.
Great set of movies though. I remember watching Raiders shortly after we got cable. It was on endless replay on HBO, and I must have watched that movie every day for a whole summer!
Nando Aqui
January 4, 2004, 11:20 PM
What gets me is not the science fiction (which I like) or somewhat historical inacuracies, but the simple details.
For example, speaking of the Tri-Motor, when Willie first walks into the cockpit, the center motor prop is stopped. A few minutes later, there is a shadow indicating that the prop is turning. Then the other two engines start to sputter, but are running. After that, the center motor prop again is stopped, but in a different position. (True, sometimes the wind stream wil cause a prop to turn if the motor is stopped.)
But then, when they jump out of the airplane, all three motors are running fine!
Oh well - let's just sit back and enjoy it for what it is = old-fashioned style episodical entertainment where the protagonist always is caught in impossible situations, but always manages to escape.
Alex
Mike Irwin
January 4, 2004, 11:34 PM
And let's not forget the Nazi flying wing...
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