Winchester Model 94


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joed
February 17, 2011, 05:41 PM
Started thinking about shooting mine the other day when I started thinking. How many different cartridges has the 94 been chambered in? I have one in a .30-30 but started thinking of maybe adding another chambering.

I don't shoot my 94 very much and maybe I should put in a little more time with it.

Anyone have any idea the chamberings that were and are available in the 94?

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GCBurner
February 17, 2011, 05:47 PM
Off the top of my head, .30-30 Winchester, .32 Winchester Special, .38-55 Winchester, .375 Winchester Big Bore, .307 Winchester, .356 Winchester, .44 Magnum, .45 Colt, and .410 Shotgun.
Almost, forgot, also .25-35 Winchester. They rereleased a run of these back in 2005, as I recall.

Abel
February 17, 2011, 06:48 PM
If I were in the market for a non-30-30 94, I would find a pre-64 in 32 Winchester Special.

Greg Mercurio
February 17, 2011, 07:43 PM
Add 7-30 Waters

ltinwi
February 17, 2011, 08:51 PM
add 32-40

GCBurner
February 17, 2011, 11:47 PM
I'd forgotten the 7-30 Waters, apparently along with the rest of the gun-buying public. Too bad, as it's a considerable improvement, ballistically, over the .30-30 it's based on. Thompson-Center is the only one making a gun in this calibre now, and it's a single-shot.
I'd guess the 7-30 Waters is about the rarest calibre the Winchester 94 has been chambered for.

Maverick223
February 18, 2011, 12:54 AM
Also available in .44-40WCF, and even the .357Mag/.38Spl.

:)

snake284
February 18, 2011, 05:56 AM
It's not necessarily a classic, but it is a very productive cartridge for deer, the 7-30 Waters. Then the old standby, that is almost a ballisics twin of the 30-30, the 32 Winchester Special.

lilquiz
February 18, 2011, 06:02 AM
Between two friends of mine they have the 7/30 and 44. We have a"shooterpalooza" about twice a year.... and yes I covet my neighbors rifle:uhoh:

GCBurner
February 18, 2011, 09:57 AM
I just noticed that they made the Model 94 Big Bore "Timber Carbine" in .450 Marlin calibre, too. In the opposite direction, there is the Model 9422 in .22LR or in .22 Magnum. So, if you wanted a comprehensive Winchester Model 94 collection, with at least one in every calibre, you'd need 18 guns:
.22 Long Rifle
.22 Magnum
.25-35
7-30 Waters
.30-30
.307 Win.
.32-40
.32 Special
.357/.38 Special
.356 Win
.375 Win
.38-55
.410 Shotgun
.44 Magnum/.44 Special
.44-40
.444 Marlin
.45 Colt
.450 Marlin

Then, of course, there are the variations in barrel length, from the short barreled "Trapper" to the 26" rifle, round, octagon, half round-half octagon, straight grip, pistol grip, saddle ring, full magazine/half magazine, crescent buttplate/flat buttplate, blued/casehardened/painted/plated receiver, top eject/angle eject, pre-64/post-64, Big Bore, XTR, and all of the different levels of stocks, engravings, and commemorative special editions. You could have a hundred Model 94s, with no two exactly the same.

CraigC
February 18, 2011, 10:27 AM
It was also made in .444Marlin.

The 94/22 is a completely different rifle (and a far better-made rifle!) and should not be included.

Maverick223
February 18, 2011, 11:06 AM
The 94/22 is a completely different rifle [...] and should not be included.I agree, it is too far departed, whereas the Big Bore 94s, while a bit different, are still close enough to count IMO.

:)

GCBurner
February 18, 2011, 12:14 PM
It was also made in .444Marlin.

The 94/22 is a completely different rifle (and a far better-made rifle!) and should not be included.
Noted and added. I think the 9422 should be counted as part of the 94 family. Anyway, I've wanted one on .22 Magnum, just to have. I'd throw it in if it were MY Model 94 collection anyway. :D
You can have whatever you want in YOUR collection!

9X23WIN
February 18, 2011, 12:22 PM
GCBurner, that's a long list!. I have the 94s chambered in 30-30, 356, 444, 44mag and 45LC and wished I had purchased the ones in 307, 375 and 410 also.

GCBurner
February 18, 2011, 12:26 PM
A dealer had a couple of new in the box .410s at a recent gun show, but since the Model 94 has been discontinued, all of a sudden these guns that he couldn't sell last year seem to have jumped in asking price.

joed
February 18, 2011, 12:36 PM
Geez, I'd love to have one of these in a "big bore".

Kind of funny but for all the different chamberings the longest lived is the .30-30.

I also have a 9422 and like that one an awful lot.

CraigC
February 18, 2011, 01:35 PM
I think the 9422 should be counted as part of the 94 family.
The 94/22 is not a model 94. The only thing it shares in common is the first two digits of its model number and the fact that it is a lever action. It is an entirely different rifle of an entirely different design and as such, is entirely irrelevant to the original question. By your logic you might as well lump in the 1892, 1873, 1860, 1866, 1886 and 1895. :rolleyes:

Maverick223
February 18, 2011, 01:43 PM
A dealer had a couple of new in the box .410s at a recent gun show, but since the Model 94 has been discontinued, all of a sudden these guns that he couldn't sell last year seem to have jumped in asking price.The '94 is back, and last I heard they are planning to expand the line to include standard grade copies.

BTW, the 94/22 has more in common with the Marlin 39 than a original '94...heck the model 39 is probably closer to the 1894.

:)

joed
February 18, 2011, 03:40 PM
Interesting to hear the 94 is coming back. When I heard the old factory was closing I bought my 94 and a model 70.

The 70 was new, the 94 belonged to one of the police depts here that issued them to their mounted units. Kind of a neat gun. Being used by LE it has a steel butt plate. They disbanded the mounted police and traded the 94's in on AR's. I picked up the 94 from the place that took them in trade.

Haven't shot it much but I think I'm going to change that.

Float Pilot
February 18, 2011, 03:41 PM
the first model of 1894s were chambered in 32-40 and 38-55.
When Winchester worked the bugs out of their smokeless nickel steel, then they chambered the 1894 in 25-35 and 30-30 during calendar year 1895.
Around 1901 or early 02, Winchester released the 1894 in 32 Winchester Special.

From the mid 1920s until sometime in the early 1930s, Winchester tried calling the 1894 the Model 55 lever action.

In 1933 another 1894 was released, but this time it was called the Model 64 Winchester.
The fancy model 64 were chambered in 30-30, 32 Win Spec, and 25-35 like the original 94s, BUT in 1938 they introduced the 219 Zipper.

Later during the 1980s and onward, you have the chambering of the

307 Win
356 Win
375 Win
44 mag
357 mag
7x30 Waters
45 colt

788Ham
February 19, 2011, 12:00 AM
I've got one of the Big Bores in .375, sure wish I knew where I could get the .356 Win. The .375 is a good shooter, hard hitting!

chevyguy76
February 19, 2011, 12:24 AM
I was thinking the model 55 and 64 were offshoots of the model 92.

Still Shooting
February 19, 2011, 12:58 AM
I believe the Model 55 was a short-lived variant of the (30-30) Model 94 in the early 1930's - it had a carbine barrel and a short magazine tube. I inherited one, in mint condition, from my Granddad. The gun was light and fast, beautifully balanced, and a carry-all-day hunting rifle. It went out of my collection to a friend's son, on the triple occasion of his high school graduation, making Eagle Scout in the same week, and being accepted for a full Marine Corps scholarship to Cornell University.

While I miss having that gun in my collection, I'd make the same gift again. He served our country in Lebanon just after the embassy was bombed, and is a fine citizen today.

Float Pilot
February 19, 2011, 01:25 AM
I was thinking the model 55 and 64 were offshoots of the model 92.

The Model 65 and rare model 53s were M-92 variants. Which in itself was really a shrunken down 1886 action for pistol size calibers. I used to own a Model 65 in 218 Bee. What a neat gun that was....

I always wanted a Model 53 take-down in 25-20... That would be sexy.

sixgunner455
February 19, 2011, 01:54 AM
When my wife's great-grandfather, a WWI vet, died at 102, we walked through his house for the last time before they started cleaning and boxing everything up.

Behind his bedroom door was a Model 64, .30-30. Beautiful gun. Obviously well-used, and just as obviously well-cared for. Each of his many boys took their first deer with that rifle, many of his grandsons took their first deer with that rifle, and one of his grandsons (an uncle to my wife) ended up with it.

Only gun in the house, but what a neat old gun!

That's what I think about when people say, "What would you have, if you could only have one?"

Something neat, something special.

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