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Splitear_Leland
February 18, 2011, 11:49 PM
Hello everyone,
I have been looking for 9mm to start shooting, and today I stopped by a local gun shop, and I think I found what I am looking for. They had a Belgium made Browning Hi-Power, in what I would call pretty good shape. I asked to look at it, and it felt really good in hand. It was slightly out of my price range, priced at $500, but I'm thinking about going to buy it on Monday. I would ask all of you if you think $500 is a fair price, and if you think the shop owner would be offended if I tried to haggle down to $450, which is a little closer to my price range. All of the firearms that I have right now I have bought at swap meets, so I am used to haggling, but I'm not used to buying from a shop. The last thing I want to do is make a guy mad. Please let me know what you think, and if all goes well I'll be posting a few pictures up sometime next week.

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1SOW
February 19, 2011, 12:08 AM
Asking him to accept $450 shouldn't make him mad. He'll probably convince you to pay more! :-) is he a reputable guy in case there's a problem with it.

Is the gun in a box, with mags/paperwork? Can you function test it with some snap caps or better yet shoot it? -- probably not.

If this is the gun 'you like' and 'want' then it's worth every penny.

Quoheleth
February 19, 2011, 12:13 AM
My favorite is "I'll do [sticker price] out the door."

Here in Houston, on a $500 gun, that saves over $40.

Q

O C
February 19, 2011, 12:39 AM
A: If he's been in business longer than 30 minutes, he's used to haggling, it's what gunnies do. If he gets mad, he won't be in business that long.
B: If the BHP fits you and is in good shape, it'll last you a lifetime, pay what you're comfortable with, after all, you have to look at it from now on. They're getting harder to find around here, I have 5 and love them all.

potmetal
February 19, 2011, 07:25 AM
The Belguim made Browning High Power is one of those guns that will only go up in value over the years. It is a classic gun design and very highly respected all over the world.
I've seen used Beguim Brownings go higher then $500, so I'd say, haggle if you want to, but even if you wind up paying $500, you got a better gun then alot of new guns on the market right now at the same price.

sideways
February 19, 2011, 08:36 AM
I don't miss very many shows in my area 500.00 would be fair on true Belgium in good shape. The prices are down a little do to the flood of Israeli police turn-ins that have hit the market.

skipjack
February 19, 2011, 10:57 AM
I'm a dealer, and don't get mad when someone offers
less...in fact, I enjoy "horse trading".

If you want a discount, simply ask. However, be prepared
to pay for the gun in full. I don't give discounts on guns
that will be put on layaway. I also am more amenable
to a discount when cash is the payment method. Credit
card fees are between 1.5 and 3 per cent of the total
sale, including taxes and fees charged by states (NICS
etc). Your dealer will save if you pay cash and will
be more likely to dicker.

BTW, that sounds like a fair price on the BHP.

Splitear_Leland
February 21, 2011, 10:42 PM
I just wanted to give an update on my search for a 9mm. I went to the shop today with $500 cash in my pocket to buy a Browning Hi Power. To my surprise, the $499 that was listed on the tag on Friday was marked out and it had $599 in its place. When I asked about the price change, I was told that there was a misunderstanding, and that $599 was the price. So I offered the guy watching the counter $500 cash for it, and he said that he would go ask. I heard him ask, and then I heard the owner laugh. They told me no, and that they already had a couple other guys looking at it.
So, I would say that the deal as a whole was a bust. Even though I was kind of offended by the owner laughing at my offer, I'll go back in a month, and if it is still there, I'll make the same offer. Thanks for everyones help!

1SOW
February 22, 2011, 12:39 AM
I don't think I'd go back---even at $450. I wouldn't trust him.

ByAnyMeans
February 22, 2011, 02:37 AM
You can always look for a HI Power clone. I got an Argentinian Hi Power that was new for three hundred. I removed the magazine safety and changed the grips. It's a great gun and rivals my friends FN Hi Power. All parts interchange as well.

DAdams
February 22, 2011, 12:14 PM
Here is a new classic alternative. Limited Edition.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_52/products_id/75449

I don't think these will last long as I think they only made 1500??

I think it was under $600 which seems pretty good but I'm not a Beretta owner.

rellascout
February 22, 2011, 12:20 PM
Paid less than $500 for this...

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/rellascout/hp-izzii-2.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/rellascout/bhp-izzi.jpg


Look into the Isreali Hi Powers which have been imported by PW Arms. If you are careful and take your time you can find a gem for under $500 OTD. I replaced the grips, removed the magazine disconnect and the laynard ring. Otherwise this is how it came to me.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=576060

bannockburn
February 22, 2011, 12:31 PM
I just saw a new one at a gun show last weekend and the asking price was $850. So a used one or else maybe a Hungarian FEG or an Argentine FM might also make for a decent buy.

Too bad about the jerk gun shop owner; I wouldn't be going back there anytime soon. I would say keep looking and I'm sure something will turn up soon enough.

rellascout
February 22, 2011, 08:08 PM
NIB Browning Hi powers can be had for $699 + $17 shipping & transfer fee.

Call CDNN.

P30shtr
February 22, 2011, 09:45 PM
NIB Browning Hi powers can be had for $699 + $17 shipping & transfer fee.

Call CDNN.


You got the extra $266 for him/her?
$450 was stated, Kinda like someone asking about a G.I. and saying you can get a Wilson from so&so for $xxx. I know, just trying to help and, it doesn't seem like that much more $$ but... for some people.
As far as the original ??? goes, I would go in there, tell'em you've got $425, cash, in your pocket right now and see what they say. If they dont go for it leave and come back with more tomorrow. Another thought is, many shops offer lay a way

rellascout
February 22, 2011, 09:53 PM
You got the extra $266 for him/her?
$450 was stated, Kinda like someone asking about a G.I. and saying you can get a Wilson from so&so for xxx. I know, just trying to help and, it doesn't seem like that much more but... for some people.
As far as the original ??? goes, I would go in there, tell'em you've got $425, cash, in your pocket right now and see what they say. If they dont go for it leave and come back with more tomorrow.

What are you talking about? I stated that there are Israeli Hi powers for $400 to $500s. Why on earth would I give someone the difference? Some one wanted a used Hi power for less than $500. I showed them one and told them that they are readily available. I am not sure you read the entire thread before you felt the need to lash out.

If you bothered to read you would see that someone stated:

I just saw a new one at a gun show last weekend and the asking price was $850. So a used one or else maybe a Hungarian FEG or an Argentine FM might also make for a decent buy.

I then said you can get a NIB one for $700. While $500 was mentioned by the OP $850 was also mentioned. I am not sure where you are coming from? Are you having a bad day?

I am giving people options. If you do not want to take advantage of the deals I have mentioned please by all means don't listen. Are you actually telling the OP to go to a shop and demand that they sell him the BHP for $425? That is absurd. He already offered cash. :what:

dcarch
February 22, 2011, 10:28 PM
You might want to check out a CZ 75 as well. They are in the price range you mentioned, have a excellent track record for durability and reliability, and are prime examples of first-rate ergonomics. I love CZ's, and it isn't hard to find one for under 500, or even 400. Check out Wideners, as they have a Pre-B CZ 75 listed for $349 right now. http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=100000121&dir=700|1012|1026
If money weren't so stinkin' tight I probably would have bought that one already... :D BHP's are great guns too though... Let us know how it goes!
Have a nice day!

P30shtr
February 23, 2011, 01:17 AM
:banghead: Obviously didnt expect anyone to give the difference, thats absurd. Just making a point between your suggestion
(the $700+ deal with CDNN) and OP's $450 budget thats all. Its a pretty good difference. For **** and giggles thats like people saying get the H&K over the Glock, its only $300 more but, everyone complains about that. Sorry for off topic, good example though(price wise). I also mentioned in my post that you were just trying to HELP and give other suggestions. NOT lash out at all. Maybe you should re read my post its right above yours, #15. Thats the problem with these forums, you cant type anything without someone getting salty. I would have put a smiley with a tear drop going down the cheek but there is none, too bad you live in WV or I'd give you a tissue.

mbruce
February 23, 2011, 01:35 AM
Rella -

Ya know HK owners carry a chip on their shoulders.....

Well...
P30 deleted his novella....now my post is meaningless....

P30shtr
February 23, 2011, 01:45 AM
there ya go bruce

mbruce
February 23, 2011, 10:30 AM
good stuff -- I like the HK/Glock thrown in there-- style points for sure!

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