If you owned HK


January 25, 2003, 12:56 AM
What would you do with it? (Thanks to nightcrawler for the idea).

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January 25, 2003, 12:59 AM
I would open a manufacturing facility in the U.S. and start producing postban G36s along with P7s and P9S. I would start focusing on the civilian market, and totally change their dealer policy. I would do a massive marketing campaign via popular films. In addition, I would totally revamp their website and add a forum that is moderated by HK employees. Finally, I would encourage the engineers to take risks and to be innovative. HK needs to go back to their old days instead of copying other companies' ideas.

January 25, 2003, 01:03 AM
I would build a plant in the US and start cranking out handguns and rifles for the civilian market.

HK 90 series rifles and a civie G36 that would have a M16/AR-15 magwell would be rolling off the assembly line..

I would lower prices across the board and begin selling parts directly to the public.. Customer service would improve as well.

Life would be good.:D

January 25, 2003, 01:19 AM
I would sell the company and go live in Pattaya Beach, Thailand..


January 25, 2003, 10:37 AM
Don't get me started!!!

I can do that myself ;)

1. Open a plant in the US.
2. Produce semi-auto G36's with pinned stocks that takes pre-ban AR15 magazines, and one chambered in .308 that takes M14 magazines.
3. Start selling the P2000 already.
4. Singlestack USPs.
5. Kick up production of P7M8s.
6. Start selling the P2000s already.
7. Make a bolt action .308 scout rifle.
8. Start selling the P2000 already.

January 25, 2003, 11:32 AM
I'd start the design for a sub-compact...

A 10mm...

Maybe invent a proprietary cartridge, a 11mm HK perhaps...

and stash away all the best that the plant had, can and will produce!!! :D:D:D

January 25, 2003, 12:10 PM
You have probably figured it out already.
I would apply for US patents for every possible magazine that could be made for a HK weapon. I would make sure that HK was the only one that could legally make magazines to fit our guns. Then I would stop selling any Hi-caps in the US to gov't or LE. This would continue until the ban was removed.

January 25, 2003, 12:15 PM
I'd drop the prices

January 25, 2003, 12:18 PM
I'd put metal triggers on the USP.

I'd take the word 'TACTICAL' off of the Tactical USP.

I'd make the Tactical an inch longer.

I'd offer the O-ring system on all of the USPs.

I'd drop the prices from insanely high to glock prices.

January 25, 2003, 01:02 PM
If I owned HK, I'd keep the pricing structure the same (why shoot myself in the foot by cutting profits???), improve the reputation of customer service, and I would expand R&D and be more innovative in the development of new firearms.

Innovate or die!!

January 25, 2003, 03:44 PM
Build a plant here in the US to make the G36 useing ar-15 mags in .223 and fal mags in .308,also the hk-94

January 25, 2003, 05:09 PM
A titanium/polymer P7.


Dave Bean
January 25, 2003, 07:03 PM
1. Make LEM's available across the board. And shorten the reset point.

2. Make USP f&c rails 1913 compatible.

3. Lower the price just a little.

4. Reverse their marketing decisions made in the last year or so (to actively market towards civilians and get competitive on LEO sales)

5. Make a G36 semi-auto that will take AR mags, without that stupid thumbhole/sport stock you find on the USC. (and at a reasonable price. I don't mind paying a little extra) Wait.....everyone else has requested this already. :D

So....has anyone heard what the hell is happening in Sterling right now ?????


January 25, 2003, 07:14 PM

January 25, 2003, 08:04 PM
Then I would stop selling any Hi-caps in the US to gov't or LE. This would continue until the ban was removed.

WOw...quite a stunt....but The_Skunk likes!

I'd take the word 'TACTICAL' off of the Tactical USP.

:eek: say it ain't so!

A titanium/polymer P7.

Rawdog: The_Skunk likes...that just implies a lightweight, twotone P7M8!

Lotsa great ideas here.

January 26, 2003, 12:41 AM
OK Skunk,
What about replacing the word 'Tactical' with a 'Reehaw!!!' instead?

Wait, even better; replace it with "Das Ninja". That would be worth the price increase!

January 26, 2003, 01:18 AM
USP REEHAW would be a singlestack USP 9mm Compact :D

January 26, 2003, 03:00 AM
Just a question to the masses...
How truly blasphemous would a polymer P7M8 be?

January 26, 2003, 03:08 AM
Why does the .308 G36 need to take M14 mags? G3 mags are much cheaper.

Also, how well would .308 work in a polymer gun? They can't even make FAL receivers out of aluminum; they blow up.

January 26, 2003, 03:14 AM

It would be the "ultimate" in HK blasphemy..:evil:

January 26, 2003, 04:28 AM
Also, how well would .308 work in a polymer gun? They can't even make FAL receivers out of aluminum; they blow up.
It would work well if designed properly. The problem with the FAL is that the bolt locks into the receiver. The stress caused by that will eventually destroy the receiver, making it out of weaker aluminum only speeds the process up. So long as the bolt is locking into the barrel there is no problem with destroying the receiver because you're destroying the barrel instead.

January 26, 2003, 10:08 AM
While all the above ideas are nice, they are obviously coming from a shooter's perspective and not the owner of a business. Let's face it - the goal of any company is really to make money. HK makes money selling to LE - civilian sales are likely a very small part of their market. Dealing with onesie twosie sales is much more expensive and much more work than with a large contract. This is probably why HK requires their dealers to purchase $XXXX amount of goods.

Building a plant in the US for the purpose of making more civilian firearms ain't gonna happen - with our rapidly changing laws, it is simply too much of a gamble and not enough return. Even if the crime bill is allowed to sunset, individual state laws are getting more and more strict. If a plant is built here, it will be to expand their presence here in the LE/Mil market. We may perhaps be able to benefit from it, as they'd likely be able to use most of the same machinery to build semi versions, but it won't be the primary reason for such a decision. Same with the P7 series - I don't have any exact numbers, but I imagine the profit margin for this pistol is much much less than the USP. Injection molding a piece of plastic is cheap. Milling a block of solid steel is not.

So... while all the previous ideas would be good for shooters (at least short term), long term I'm afraid they'd likely drive the company into the ground...


January 27, 2003, 05:21 PM
There really needs to be a USP2 line with standard accessory rails...

January 27, 2003, 06:20 PM
1) US manufacturing plant.
2) More aggressively market the G36 to LE.
3) More aggressively market the G36 to the US and other militaries.
4) Market Green/DarkGrey/Black G36s, with purpose built fixed stock, to the US market.
5) Restart SL6 and SL7 production for CA residents and others similarly restriced. 10-rnd mag production for these as well.
6) Restart HK-94 production, with the flapper mag release.
7) more/no time

I figure if 1-3 happen, the others have a decent chance.

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