Glock 30 or Sig P220R?


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MikePaiN
February 20, 2011, 06:59 AM
If you had a choice(like I do) between these two .45autos which would you pick?
The "use" would be as a primary SHTF sidearm, of course, it will see lots of range time and use as a back-packing woods gun.

Just to make this a fair(or a more difficult) decision the specifics on these are:
P220R-Sig night sights, Hogue grip, 5 mags
G30-enhanced trigger & spring job, extended controls, 2 mags

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mbruce
February 20, 2011, 07:10 AM
G30 has more mag options as it will take sub, compact, full size, zombie size (30rds).

Both are great choices. Glocks r cheaper so u buy more ammo...will come across more survivors who have glocks, glock mags will be easier to find...cheaper...

But , if shtf...I also want a .40 that's can be converted into a 9mm...a surplus of ammo will be more plentiful and lighter to tote... .45acp is heavy ammo...

Fun thread though...either or will kill some zombies

I'm not sold on night sights...unless you close your eyesduring firing then night sights may not be great...spend the $ on ammo.

Creature
February 20, 2011, 08:03 AM
I'm not sold on night sights...unless you close your eyesduring firing then night sights may not be great...spend the $ on ammo.

Have you ever used tritium night sights in low-light shooting conditions??

Works2Shoot
February 20, 2011, 08:08 AM
I'd always go with Glock for SHTF. Can pick up parts/pieces from deceased police officers.

MikePaiN
February 20, 2011, 08:38 AM
I have a friend with the G30, I have the Sig 220 and he wants to trade me.
The Sig was intended for use as I said above. Once we got talking about this trade, I started to consider the G30 might be a better pistol for my indended use.
The Glock30 has more ammo cap, is incredibly tough and will require less "maintenance" and is lighter and more compact.
The 220 on the other hand is big & bad, runs great, shoots like a laser and has got the rail, night sights, extra mags. I also have holsters for it.
There will be + $cash or a small .380pistol(KT P3AT) going my way in the deal.

Fuzzy7
February 20, 2011, 08:48 AM
I love making trades and doing deals. DON"T do this deal. I have had both. I still have the P220. It's the best non 1911 .45 around, in my opinion. I am by no means anti-glock. I still have a 17 & 19. You seem to like it already. Unless you were getting the 30 for CCW, leave well enough alone.

MikePaiN
February 20, 2011, 09:26 AM
I love making trades and doing deals. DON"T do this deal. I have had both. I still have the P220. It's the best non 1911 .45 around, in my opinion. I am by no means anti-glock. I still have a 17 & 19. You seem to like it already. Unless you were getting the 30 for CCW, leave well enough alone.
Well, I do love the Sig but have been considering "downsizing" to a smaller .45 for some time. There are only a few pistols I would even consider trading this Sig for; a Kahr P45, M&P45c or ideally the Glock30.....and now here's one sitting in my lap :cool: This G30 has phenomenal trigger, a local smith installed a 3.5bar and did spring work. All I need is a set of XS Big Dots and more mags.
I will be taking an almost new brown Kel-Tec P3AT W/extra mag, pocket holster and ammo with the trade.

Fuzzy7
February 20, 2011, 09:38 AM
Well, 2 guns is usually better than 1!!!!!!! 30 is a nice piece. Getting rid of it was one of those things, just kind of happened. Nothing wrong with it. Wish I still had it. Just don't want you to regret getting rid of the P220- that is one of those guns that you may end up getting again. Enjoy.

NG VI
February 20, 2011, 10:15 AM
Go for it, you've been wanting to trade for that exact gun, you know this one, and like Fuzzy said, two is better than one.

jem375
February 20, 2011, 10:24 AM
Personally I don't like any of the Glock 45's... I have shot all 3 versions talked about and would get the Sig, my son has one and it is a really good handgun. I have an XD 45 which in my opinion is better than the G21, and just can't get used to the G30 and G36, I carry a Springfield Ultra Compact 45ACP which is better than those 2 anyway...

MikePaiN
February 20, 2011, 01:18 PM
I actually like the Glock30, in fact I have no issue with shooting any Glock I've tried, G30 included. That said, its not going to be like shooting the Sig 220 :( . I ultimately need this pistol for utility and the G30 fits the bill better....The trade is under way.
Thanks and I'll have to post up some pics to celebrate.. :D

mbruce
February 20, 2011, 01:59 PM
Have you ever used tritium night sights in low-light shooting conditions??
Yea I have truglo tfo on my target guns...

They r nice in all light conditions...but a must have? Na...and the tubes may break fall out go dull..whatever happens. The glock steel sights imo r better for combat shtf scenario

Diggers
February 20, 2011, 02:46 PM
Not all night sights are equal. Try trijicon out.

I've those on a M&P 40 and hitting targets in almost total darkness is no problem at all. They have a bright glow and lasts at least 10 years. Very helpful for low light shooting.

chris in va
February 20, 2011, 03:15 PM
No question, the Glock. I had a 220 and couldn't get used to it's high bore axis, plus the limited number of rounds. DA pull is absurdly difficult too.

MikePaiN
February 20, 2011, 04:01 PM
Done deal....here's Mr. Utility and the little Kel-Tec P3AT that tagged along(which I have know idea what to do with atm).

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x298/Mikepain_pics/G30/DSC03285.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x298/Mikepain_pics/G30/DSC03282.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x298/Mikepain_pics/G30/DSC03281.jpg

rhodco
February 20, 2011, 11:22 PM
Looks like you also have a Pierce grip extension on that mag as well. Those really helped eliminate the pinky pinch I was getting. It also enhances grip for big hands like mine.

Both the Sig and Glock are fine quality weapons. I've had both. The one factor that made the decision for me to stick with Glock was the trigger. The Sig DA/SA trigger is a disadvantage (in my opinion) because the long hard trigger pull on the first shot is not the same as the feel for every subsequent shot. As a result, my first shot would always swing wide then all the others fell right on center target. I started to compensate by cocking the hammer back with my thumb as I would draw. This gave me tighter groups, but longer time to get off the first shot.

The Glock may be ugly to some, but it is consistent with every shot. Practice drills are easier, and I shoot better and faster with a Glock than with anything else (except for the single action only 1911 which is a different thing altogether).

MikePaiN
February 21, 2011, 06:07 AM
I got the Glock to the range last night and it shoots really well, I never had issue with Glock triggers but the work on this one makes it very slick. I'm happy with the trade. I've got too order up some mags(two just won't do ;) ) XS Big Dot sights and some kind of OtW holster.
My main CCW is a Kahr K9...the trigger on this G30 is much closer in feel to it than the Sig's was, so that is less "switching" I'll have to do and will make training easier. That thought didn't cross my mind until I was shooting the G30 last night...a good unintended consequence :)

CDR_Glock
February 21, 2011, 07:02 AM
Done deal....here's Mr. Utility and the little Kel-Tec P3AT that tagged along(which I have know idea what to do with atm).

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x298/Mikepain_pics/G30/DSC03285.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x298/Mikepain_pics/G30/DSC03282.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x298/Mikepain_pics/G30/DSC03281.jpg

That 3AT is a great pocket gun. You can just grab and go with it, ESP in the summer. You can also trade it off for ammo or other stuff.

I have a Glock 30 and HAD a P220.

The 30 has contoured grips, no external safety, a higher capacity, is thinner, is lighter, easier to maintain and is simple to use. The finish of the slide is even sturdier. More accessories are available for it. It can accommodate a larger Glock 21 Magazine. It is a gun that requires very little cleaning. It is cheap and so are magazines for it.

The 220 is SA/DA (at least the one I owned). It is heavier, has a lower mag capacity and has more parts associated with it. Accuracy is similar. I traded it off for more capacity.

Mike: You came out ahead in the deal. 2 guns for one. Now you have a pocket gun and a damn good 45.

MikePaiN
February 21, 2011, 07:53 AM
Mike: You came out ahead in the deal. 2 guns for one. Now you have a pocket gun and a damn good 45.I scored a good amount of .45 & .380 ammo in the deal too :)
That 3AT is a great pocket gun. You can just grab and go with it, ESP in the summer. You can also trade it off for ammo or other stuff
It did shoot well, but its not my thing....I have put the P3AT up for sale, plan to use the funds to buy G30 mags, holster and XS sights

CDR_Glock
February 22, 2011, 06:19 AM
You may want to check out Glock Talk. I bought a Shielded Holster from Kwart. He makes very nice Holsters for IWB and OWB. I have one for the 23/27, 30 and my revolver. They're extremely comfortable and they come in black, dark brown and natural.

He does belt slots, 2 clips, stamped borders for $50 delivered and it comes in about a week. Blemished ones are only $40 (in the end, that's the best deal).

Joker19
February 22, 2011, 11:58 AM
Glock 30 SF. Deadly accurate and very dependable right out of the box!

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