autoloader triggers....can it be like a revolvers SA?


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jlott00
February 20, 2011, 03:16 PM
this maybe a dumb question, but i had it in my head that a sig p226 had a trigger like a revolver, as when it "cocked" there would be no take up in the trigger......like my SW revolver......i was very disappointed when i went and put one in my hands. ...i was also thought 1911 where like this but im guessing they has some take up as well......

so is there a way to fix a sig to have a revolver like trigger?
or is there another brand out there???

thanks (pistol noob)

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wbwanzer
February 20, 2011, 04:11 PM
There are some other folks around who are more experienced than me, but I'll give you my 2 cents. I don't think there is any auto-loader that will have an SA trigger like a S&W revolver in SA mode. The 1911s seem to come the closest. I started out with revolvers and was always looking for that 'revolver like' SA trigger in an auto. I've not found it yet. A S&W revolver trigger breaks like glass. Some autos may come close, but will never duplicate a revolver trigger, in my opinion.

If you find one that breaks like a S&W revolver, let me know, cause I want one.

jlott00
February 20, 2011, 04:20 PM
thanks.

seems the sigs and other da/sa pistols would be setup like this...not sure why they wouldn't be. unless liability bs is involved

Winkman822
February 20, 2011, 04:28 PM
In an autoloader, you're almost always going to have some trigger take up in an SA trigger. That said, some are definitely better than others. 1911s vary across the board for trigger take up, as do most DA/SA pistols.

I can affirmatively say that my Wilson Combat CQB has the absolute LEAST amount of take up of any handgun I own. I know that the Walther P99AS is supposed to be pretty dang good in SA-anti stress mode as well. Basically, the anti-stress mode in the P99AS is the single action trigger with the slack taken up ahead of time. See below video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyOZN_44Xd4

wbwanzer
February 20, 2011, 04:31 PM
I think it has more to do with the trigger design of autos than liability. My understanding is that they just can't be designed like revolver triggers.

Nushif
February 20, 2011, 05:08 PM
Beretta 92D

That's the answer. Mine has a nice and light 6 pound trigger pull about the length of a Colt Trooper. Of course, my local gunsmith loves Berettas, so he was willing to work on one.

Derp. Right. Ringle Action.

I'd say the closest is probably something like a 1911. I'm not much of a single action kinda guy, though.

The Lone Haranguer
February 20, 2011, 06:45 PM
All of SIG's pistols of that action type have the long slack/takeup in SA. AFAIK it is inherent to the design and cannot be eliminated. The actual release is pretty crisp, though.

9mmepiphany
February 20, 2011, 06:59 PM
seems the sigs and other da/sa pistols would be setup like this...not sure why they wouldn't be. unless liability bs is involved

Actually they can't and it has nothing to do with liability...well, it does a bit, because such a trigger wouldn't be safe.

You have to understand how triggers work and how the trigger of revolvers differ from that of autoloaders.
1. In revolvers the hammer is uncocked after each shot until you cock it again. The hammer is held directly by the trigger
2. In an Autoloader, the hammer needs to be retained in the cocked position until the disconnector has re-engaged and the trigger has reset...if it didn't have this mechanism, the gun would continue to fire until you released the trigger. Within this linkage, there is a certain amount of slack that needs to be built in for safety...that is the takeup that you are referring to.

If you learn to shoot an autoloader correctly, you'll never have to deal with the takeup at all. When you release the trigger between shots further than the reset point, you're only creating unnecessary takeup to release

railroader
February 21, 2011, 01:15 AM
Actually I have a bul impact cz clone that has almost no take up in single action and use to have a cz75b that was the same way. Then there is my ruger p95 that has about a half of a mile of take up. :rolleyes: Mark

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