CHL For On Campus Carry Gets Closer


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The_Shootist
February 20, 2011, 05:14 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7438290.html

Keep up the support.

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GEM
February 20, 2011, 05:30 PM
We shall see! That and the parking lot bill are not the favorites of big money. The TSRA points that out and how politicians like the moolah.

Keeping my fingers crossed. Of course, the private schools probably will be exempt. Isn't that special!

The private school hook is that if you mandate there, you've violated privacy rights and that makes businesses nutty. Not that they care about rights - just liability.

hirundo82
February 20, 2011, 05:44 PM
Of course, the private schools probably will be exempt. Isn't that special!

The private school hook is that if you mandate there, you've violated privacy rights and that makes businesses nutty. Not that they care about rights - just liability.

I'm not a big fan of that since I'm a student at a private school, but I'm aware it is a price we might have to pay for now to get campus carry.

In my opinion, if private schools want the right to ban carry on their premises they should agree to give up the millions of dollars in public money that they get annually in the form of subsidies, tax breaks, etc.

TexasRifleman
February 21, 2011, 07:20 PM
Another story on the local Dallas station. Not crazy about the coverage but about what I expect from media.

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/education/022111_Texas_gun_bill_campus

Keep calling Austin!

The_Shootist
February 21, 2011, 08:59 PM
CNN ran its usual slanted piece against it - but sounds like the 2A rights spokesman came off well:

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2011/02/21/cnns-savidge-guests-gang-supporter-concealed-carry-campus

GEM
February 21, 2011, 10:34 PM
Local TV news had a positive story. We shall see!

speaksoftly
February 23, 2011, 03:37 AM
Been supporting this movement for years. Folks, this is 100% a solid example of what happens when the people speak. We've lobbied in Austin, on facebook, on twitter, and a million other places and we're on the home stretch. I'm proud that this is almost through and proud of my fellow Texans for supporting us.

The_Shootist
February 23, 2011, 03:08 PM
Surprisingly, this is starting to be a hot-button issue, coming up on the radar screen> Here's another article done today.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2011/02/23/states-consider-allowing-guns-campus/

GEM
February 23, 2011, 03:37 PM
I hope so. One subtle bit about the argument. Pelosi suggests (:barf:) that better lighting and security will prevent incidents. Perhaps muggings but that is irrelevant to the school shooter who already plans a sucidial last stand.

Will it deter folks - they more look for easier targets. There is some evidence of that. However, prevention misses the point of lessening the casuality count if someone can engage the shooter.

I am amazed (not really) of how such factors are ignored and not thought through.

My counter example is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massacre.

Ask a female antigunner, if she would be happy to see the males leave and left her to her fate. After the massacre, the males could seek counseling and write a poem about the victims.

Perhaps if one of the 50 males had a firearm? Oh, but couldn't someone charge the shooter. That was tried at VT and the young man was shot to pieces.

BBQLS1
February 24, 2011, 01:26 PM
Good Luck!

GEM
February 24, 2011, 04:32 PM
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20110224-fbi-lubbock-college-student-from-saudi-arabia-targeted-bushs-dallas-home-in-terror-plot.ece

Terrorism won't hit our campus, surely.

Guillermo
February 24, 2011, 04:44 PM
private schools will NOT be exempt if the bill goes through as written.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/82R/billtext/pdf/HB00086I.pdf#navpanes=0


A license holder may carry a concealed handgun on or
about the license holder’s person while the license holder is on the
campus of an institution of higher education or private or
independent institution of higher education in this state

Guillermo
February 24, 2011, 04:49 PM
BTW,

I just exchanged emails w Alice Tripp asking her if she wants me to testify as I have in the past.

As a women's self defense instructor that teaches on 2 Austin campuses regularly I have a good chance of being an effective witness (if anyone has an open mind). When I teach presently I have to lock my weapon in the car thus increasing the chances of it being acquired by a thief.

Alice always is cautious but she seems pretty upbeat on this one. Maybe it is because something like half of the reps co-sponsored it. :D

She seems more concerned about the workplace parking lot bill. :uhoh:

Flintknapper
February 24, 2011, 05:59 PM
Campus Carry is looking pretty good this session.

The Parking Lot bill however.... was submitted to the B&I committee and will be a struggle because of that.

Calling committee members will help:


Here are the Committee Members and their contact information:

Joe Deshotel - (512) 463-0662 Phone (512) 463-8381 Fax

Rob Orr -(512) 463-0538 Phone (512) 463-0897 Fax

Dwayne Bohac -(512) 463-0727 Phone (512) 463-0681 Fax

John Garza - (512) 463-0269 Phone (512) 463-1096 Fax

Helen Giddings -(512) 463-0953 Phone (512) 463-5887 Fax

Sid Miller - (512) 463-0628 Phone (512) 463-3644 Fax

Chente Quintanilla -(512) 463-0613 Phone (512) 463-1237 Fax

Burt Solomons -(512) 463-0478 Phone (512) 463-2089 Fax

Paul Workman - (512) 463-0652 Phone (512) 463-0565 Fax

SpaceFrank
February 24, 2011, 06:30 PM
The bill passed the Texas Senate, and it looks like it will pass the House based on all the co-sponsors.

Regarding the bit about private universities not being exempt: This is actually a change from the bill that we tried to pass in 2009. It actually kinda makes me glad that the last bill got held up.

TX1911fan
February 24, 2011, 06:47 PM
This sounds like it has a very good chance of passing. Next step is all schools, not just higher education.

hirundo82
February 24, 2011, 07:03 PM
private schools will NOT be exempt if the bill goes through as written.

It's unlikely campus carry will pass without an exemption for private schools. The bill you link to (HB 86) isn't the TSRA-sponsored bill; those are HB 750 (http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=82R&Bill=HB750) and SB354 (http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=82R&Bill=SB354), both of which exempt private schools.


The bill passed the Texas Senate, and it looks like it will pass the House based on all the co-sponsors. No campus carry bill has passed either house yet this session, nor has even been heard in committee yet. You may be thinking of last session, when a bill passed the Senate but the session ended before it could be brought to a vote in the House.

hirundo82
February 24, 2011, 07:04 PM
Campus Carry is looking pretty good this session.

The Parking Lot bill however.... was submitted to the B&I committee and will be a struggle because of that.

Calling committee members will help:

I know you're on TexasCHLforum, but for the others--the House parking lot bill HB 681 (http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=82R&Bill=HB681) is scheduled for a hearing on Monday 2/28, so make your calls soon.

The Senate bill, SB 321 (http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=82R&Bill=SB321), is also scheduled for a hearing (by the Criminal Justice Committee) on Tuesday 3/1.

Guillermo
February 24, 2011, 08:05 PM
The bill you link to (HB 86) isn't the TSRA-sponsored bill; those are HB 750 and SB354, both of which exempt private schools.


I stand corrected

GEM
February 25, 2011, 12:43 PM
Thanks for the info - the private school exemption stinks.

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