Defunct Post Office = Death 2nd Ammendment??


XD Fan
February 21, 2011, 04:42 PM
I was listening to a podcast of GunTalk from last April, and Alan Gottlieb was guest hosting. A caller (who sound a little less than bright, but I digress) suggested that the way the constitution is arranged means that if and when the post office goes under (political or economic reasons), the second amendment becomes defunct. Gottlieb was against a hard time break and said he did not know what the guy was talking about. It never came back up.

I am pretty sure that this guys was a total nut, but has anyone heard this concept? Sounded weird to me; I cannot figure out where he was coming from.

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February 21, 2011, 04:51 PM
I think that guy's tinfoil hat isn't properly grounded.

XD Fan
February 21, 2011, 04:55 PM
I think he may have stuck his tin foil beanie propeller into a electric outlet while the beanie was still on his head. I just wondered if any had heard of this.

February 21, 2011, 05:06 PM
Nope. The 2nd had to do with personal ownership of weapons and militia and militant type usage.
I see no correlation with the post office and personal ownership nor militias.

Though they certainly made use of "riding shotgun" while delivering the mail at times.

February 21, 2011, 05:10 PM
The Post Office is mandated in several of the original federal documents. It's purpose was to allow for the dissemination of information necessary to a free state.

Section One, Article 8, of the Constitution gives the Congress the Power to administer the post office.

The Post Office was established on March 12, 1789.

The United States Post Office (U.S.P.O.) was created in Philadelphia under Benjamin Franklin on Wednesday, July 26, 1775, by decree of the Second Continental Congress. Based on the Postal Clause in Article One of the United States Constitution, empowering Congress "To establish post offices and post roads", it became the Post Office Department (U.S.P.O.D.) in 1792. Until 1971, it was part of the Presidential cabinet and the Postmaster General was the last person in the United States presidential line of succession.

I'm thinking that the comment was mistakenly made in the belief that, should the USPS be allowed to cease existence, then the rest of the Bill of Rights also ceased to exist.

The fact that the Post Office was created by Congress, and is a service, differentiates from the other portions of the Constitution which enumerate rights of the citizen not controlled by the Congress.

February 21, 2011, 05:17 PM
I truly fail to see any connection between the survival of the USPS and the 2nd amendment. Why not the first, or the 4th, or any other amendment or any other part of the Constitution?

Theoretically we could amend the Constitution to eliminate the Post Office clause, however that isn't likely to happen, and I don't remember any connection besides both being in the Constitution.

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