Styer M series questions


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CZguy
February 21, 2011, 09:38 PM
I've been reading about the Styer M series pistols, and everything I'm reading sounds good. I can't find one in my area to handle much less shoot, so I'm looking for information from those who own one. How do they shoot? How would you compair it to a Glock or S&W? Where can you find them for sale? I can't find a listing for one at CDNN. What's a good price for one?

My plan would be to sell a Glock 32c in .357 Sig and replace it with a Styer M series in .357 Sig. Does the Styer come in a compensated version?

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Z-Michigan
February 21, 2011, 10:37 PM
I have a first generation Steyr M9. It is technically innovative and definitely started as a product-improved Glock, which is the apparent origin if you've looked it up. However, the grip angle is even more severe than a Glock, the sights are unusual, and magazine availability and holster support is very limited. What's your intended use?

CZguy
February 21, 2011, 10:53 PM
My intended use is for a winter carry gun. But if the grip angle is more severe than a Glock, then I'll have to rethink the whole thing.

Kingofthehill
February 21, 2011, 10:58 PM
Its not more severe than the glock, its identical without the low BUMP in the palm.

I have 3 Steyrs and i LOVE THEM! without a doubt they have much less muzzle flip than XD,XDm,Glock,Ruger,M&P... i own them all and they all have strong points. I really really dig my glock 19's but the Steyrs still have them beat IMO.

Im still trying to find a compact 9mm steyr or a .357sig

http://i54.tinypic.com/vxnaep.jpg

CZguy
February 21, 2011, 11:35 PM
Its not more severe than the glock, its identical without the low BUMP in the palm.


OK, it took me five years to get used to the Glock grip angle, but I've finally done it.

I have 3 Steyrs and i LOVE THEM! without a doubt they have much less muzzle flip than XD,XDm,Glock,Ruger,M&P...

So are you saying that, The M series would be manageable in .357 Sig? My favorite feature of my Glock, is the factory compensation. I am able to shoot that pistol both quickly and accurately.

Who sells these now that CDNN has run out?

Giterboosted
February 22, 2011, 12:04 AM
There's a local one in .357 near me if anyOne is interested, but it's a but high

Kingofthehill
February 22, 2011, 07:59 AM
I haven't shot the M in 357sig yet. But as a .357 sig fan and collector, the only one that has felt "Better" and more like a 9mm in my hands has been the M&P. The Glock and even Sig have a different feel to them.

But in 9mm and 40, the Steyr M series guns feel much much different and for me its in a good way... more of a push back than a whip/flip.

JOe

Z-Michigan
February 22, 2011, 09:12 AM
Its not more severe than the glock, its identical without the low BUMP in the palm.

Well, maybe. I got mine out of the safe later last night and it sure looks and feels like a steep angle. It's the only handgun I own that I cannot shoot instinctively - it's always aiming too high by instinct. And I have 1000's of rounds through my Glocks.

The M9 (standard size) also feels even smaller than a G19. It isn't, except for width, but it sure feels small. The trigger feel is unusual. Not bad, but not like anything else I have. Sure, it's a little like a Glock, but not exactly.

Disassembly is extremely easy, and the gun has a very high quality feel to it.

CZguy, the CDNN ones were closeout. Last I knew this gun, as the second generation M9A1 model (shown in Kingof's photo above) is in active production and imported by Steyr USA. You should be able to have almost any dealer order one for you, or find one at Gunbroker, etc.

rellascout
February 22, 2011, 09:30 AM
CZguy, the CDNN ones were closeout. Last I knew this gun, as the second generation M9A1 model (shown in Kingof's photo above) is in active production and imported by Steyr USA. You should be able to have almost any dealer order one for you, or find one at Gunbroker, etc.

These are not actively being imported again yet. The last round at CDNN were the remainder of Steyr's inventory at the time. Anything else out there is old new stock in the hands of dealers normally not distributors. They claimed the exchange rate and production costs were too high to continue to import them and sell them at a competitive price. IIRC

They are going to be brought back in with a MSRP of $650 or so. I have not heard a definite time frame when the new imports will hit. For all I know they are on their way but I have not seen any yet. I think they will have a hard time selling them for over $500.

I agree that they have a mor e drastic angle than the Glocks. They are godo guns but I am not sure they are going to sell well. They never have in the past.

earlthegoat2
February 22, 2011, 09:32 AM
I have shot a friends quite a bit and my main issue has nothing to do with how it shoots. It has everything to do with magazine availability. The ones you can find are usually 10 round since these were imported mainly during the AWB years.

rellascout
February 22, 2011, 09:38 AM
http://www.cdnninvestments.com/steyr2.html

CDNN has 40 S&W and .357 Sig 12 rounders in stock for $20. 9mm are a bit harder to find sometimes.

Kingofthehill
February 22, 2011, 09:39 AM
I have shot a friends quite a bit and my main issue has nothing to do with how it shoots. It has everything to do with magazine availability. The ones you can find are usually 10 round since these were imported mainly during the AWB years.


CDNN has the regular ones all the time. I have quite a few from them. Sure you can't get them at bass pro shop or Cabela's but they are available.

Its a great gun with some amazing positives and some negatives like every other gun out there. I like being a little different and not so mainstream.

JOe

Kingofthehill
February 22, 2011, 09:45 AM
These are not actively being imported again yet. The last round at CDNN were the remainder of Steyr's inventory at the time. Anything else out there is old new stock in the hands of dealers normally not distributors.

They are being imported again. At least thats what ive read online as well as the Steyr Forum.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/08/03/steyr-arms-again-importing-ma1-and-sa1-pistols/

Now, i haven't bought a new one and i have a hard time swallowing the new price! The most expensive one i have bought has been $425 new and the cheapest being $225 for the older M9 (non a1) at a gun show.

Sub 500, they are worth every penny. More than that and i have a hard time telling someone to buy one.

rellascout
February 22, 2011, 09:54 AM
They are being imported again. At least thats what ive read online as well as the Steyr Forum.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...d-sa1-pistols/


Cool I have not seen any in a shop. I guess the NIB ones I have seen on GB and other online sites are new stock where I assumed them to be old/new stock.

Storm
February 22, 2011, 10:55 AM
Cool I have not seen any in a shop. I guess the NIB ones I have seen on GB and other online sites are new stock where I assumed them to be old/new stock.

There has been some confusion over some of the Gunbroker guns as to whether they are old or new stock. Some of the dealers don't seem to know the difference. But, from what I have heard, the new guns are here. BTW, if it's an SA1 you can be pretty doggone sure it's new as only a handful landed here before Steyr backed out of the market.

Still waiting on the "L" which is long, long rumored to be a .45 with a way outside chance at 10mm. If Steyr would do the .45 it would show that they have learned and are attempting to make a serious effort in the US market.

bannockburn
February 22, 2011, 11:17 AM
I have an older M9 and I think that the biggest difference between it and the grip of a Glock 17 is in the sculpted portion of the Steyr's grip. My hand seems to flow into the gun, like a hand in glove. The Glock seems more like I'm grasping it, like I'm trying to wrap my hand around something. I think it has less to do with the actual grip angle than it does with the overall ergonomics of the design.

Girodin
February 22, 2011, 08:08 PM
I prefer my M9 to my glocks. I'm currently considering getting a Steyr A1

ckone
February 23, 2011, 04:21 PM
I've had a few and put several thousand rounds through them, they're great guns. Their build-quality is on par with H&K and from grip-shape to materials to finish they are head and shoulders above what most of us are used to from Glock, XD, or an M&P. The grip-angle and overall ergos are fantastic and up there with the classic Lugar, 1911, Hi-Power, and CZ-75 in how well it feels and works.
IMO their only real drawback (and just could be for ME and my grip) is that their slide-release lever is actually overly ergonomic. If you're in the camp that likes to install the extended slide release on your Glocks, than you'll probably love it as it's a better shape and is easier to activate than any available on a Glock, however and that said, if you're like me, and you use a high-thumbs-forward-grip, you'll probably end up riding it and end up not having your slide lock back on empty mags... this is one area where I wish they hadn't tried to improve as IMO the stock Glock design is in-reality better in-practice for more advanced shooters with more training as it's quite hard to contact accidentally, yet still provides enough of a platform and leverage to drop the slide on a fresh mag with one's strong-hand thumb during a speed-load (with practice of course). The other minor thing is that the older ones had a "C"-shaped washer that held their striker-springs captive in their striker-channels which would produce an ugly feeling and heavier pull now and again when the washer landed in a clocked position, the newer M-A1's being imported over the last year or so have been upgraded and improved and do not do this.
Otherwise and besides those two things, especially with the newer improved striker-spring channel, they may very well be the best striker-fired gun ever produced, definitely one of the best.
They are getting harder and harder to find as steals, if you are going to pay more than $500 I'd recommend trying to get one of the latest specimens (but my guess is that they'd upgrade an older one without question, their customer support is just awesome, their head armorer Jeff rules and literally took care of legions of Steyr owners for a few years while they weren't being imported and I'd doubt you could find a single negative word out there at all).

Uneasy Rider
February 23, 2011, 06:13 PM
I own a Steyr S9. Basically the same as the first gen M you are talking about but the compact version.

I love everything about the gun. Its has a comfortable grip angle, accurate as hell, reliable as a rock & the trapezoid sights allow for quick & accurate aiming.

I bought a bunch of extra mags from CDNN some years ago, both the M series 15 round & S series 10 round were selling for under 20 bucks a piece if I remember right. Both the M & S mags work in the S.

Steyr makes a great gun. Id love to pick up one of the newer versions in a .40 but they are getting a bit hard to find.

I prefer almost everything about my Steyr to my Springfield XDM 40. Which is also a fine gun.

The only downside is that accessories like holsters are a bit harder to find but you just have to try holsters for other guns to find one that fits.

Great quality guns. Id buy another.

Girodin
February 23, 2011, 06:56 PM
The only downside is that accessories like holsters are a bit harder to find but you just have to try holsters for other guns to find one that fits.

A number of companies make holsters for the steyr. I really like Raven Concealment holsters and they make a holster for the M9.

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