Thinking of getting a Springfield Armory EMP 40


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Sider
February 22, 2011, 03:55 AM
I am a member on a 1911 forum and I wanted to hear from ppl who may not always deal with 1911s or have different views. I'm really thinking of doing it. I was gonna get a ATI FX45 Commander and Bobtail it since I heard that 3" barrels aren't worth it in .45. Well, I've heard great things about the EMP and am just wondering what you guys think. Is there anything that I need to worry about? 9mm or 40S&W? Anything that needs to be changed out the box? Ammo suggestions? This is the one from Bud's and DAMN is she pretty.:what:

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G27RR
February 22, 2011, 10:07 AM
I don't have one yet (really want one though), but all accounts I have seen say you shouldn't need to change anything out of the box. The grips are even a good choice for a carry piece. You will need to be comfortable with single action "cocked and locked" carry, and recoil with the .40 will probably be a bit snappy. the main reason I don't have one yet is that I can never decide whether to go 9mm or .40.

Nothing wrong with a 3" 1911 by the way. I have three and they are all reliable. My EDC is an STI Shadow with over 2,000 rounds through it and just 1 malfunction that I am pretty sure was my fault - a possible limp wrist at the tail end of a long range session.

Sider
February 22, 2011, 01:17 PM
Yeah I have a Government Colt Rail Gun. I will carry it but it would be nice to have something smaller.

rellascout
February 22, 2011, 01:20 PM
They are good little guns. I have considered the 9mm several times. I just never end up bringing it home. I am not a fan of the 1911 "like" pistol concept. I prefer the "real" thing.

I also think that they are way to expensive for what they are. I have a Colt CCO right now at my favorite custom shop being worked over and it will cost me about the same including the base gun that the EMP would cost me new. :what:

Lonestar49
February 22, 2011, 02:07 PM
I am a member on a 1911 forum and I wanted to hear from ppl who may not always deal with 1911s or have different views. I'm really thinking of doing it. I was gonna get a ATI FX45 Commander and Bobtail it since I heard that 3" barrels aren't worth it in .45. Well, I've heard great things about the EMP and am just wondering what you guys think. Is there anything that I need to worry about? 9mm or 40S&W? Anything that needs to be changed out the box? Ammo suggestions?


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I got a 9mm some 3yrs ago when they first came out in 9mm..

The gun is the same as it came from the factory, wood grips, 3-dot low profile night sights, 3 mags and "lifetime warranty - no questions asked"

I had some FTFC issues in the first 300 rounds (more so with JHP's) and called the factory, the rep then said "let me get you one of our gunny's". He asked what serial number I had and when I told him he said that my gun was in the batch that they had made changes/improvements in the feed ramp angle and tightness of some barrel chambers and that I should send it in, they pay the shipping, and he'd get right on it or, I could try and polish it myself and it should solve my feed problem and it did, as the only on-going complaints were in earlier batch, (2590) or lower, numbered guns than mine (26**) and those newer/higher batch numbered.

I did, used Flitz gun polish, and did the feed ramp, lightly, and the barrel chamber and since then no issues, now thru 7400 rounds (and on 3rd replaced main spring, outer one only) as they need replacement around every 3000 rounds.

The gun's chamber is tight in regards to re-loads (tried once and stuck one) so no more re-loads - but it shoots any new 9mm, WWB, Federal, PMC, Remington with no problems.

In JHP's it likes the 124gr (as do I) as having a short barrel, the heavier, slower rounds can cause a FTFC issue now and then but not so with 115gr or 124gr and with the short 3"bull barrels, getting the spin-up within the barrel via higher velocity does make for the guns on-going accuracy, thus my first choice is 124gr JHP's, the best of both worlds, - weight and just enough velocity, to match the_same_feel as all those 115gr or 124gr FMJ for range time. 134gr was hit and miss and 147gr JHP's are out of the question.

It goes, an easy 1000 round before tear-downs, using gun grease on the rails and guides and can be shot one handed, weak handed, without issues which is a very "high criteria" in a gun for me, in that they must be "forgiving"..

I think the total of inquiries about my 9mm/the gun itself have proved out for around 8 buyers/owners with total satisfaction and all agree with me that they are a balanced, fall back down on-target, point and shoot, guns.. Namely, little tack drivers..

Only one person chose to go with the 40cal and at first loved it but within 3 months sold it because of its snappier recoil and he could not get the_feel for fast follow-up shots along with one hand accuracy.. That was just over a year ago and just last week I got a PM from him saying his NIB EMP 9mm is/was one week away and he was excited to say the least..

My 9mm remains my range favorite and it always gets the nods of those that see it or those I let fire it, especially the girls and my wife..

I have three forty's, I love, 2 in Sig P229n/r and a Beretta Px4 40 (with *rotating barrel) and those guns, because of their mid size *build, weight, offer the_balance and accuracy with quick follow-up shots or one handed shots and as I told my friend, "In IMO the EMP/40 may be a handful, far less forgiving than the 9mm, and that turned out true for him and the change, back, to the more forgiving 9mm EMP.. 9+1

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc306/Lonestar49/Picture224.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc306/Lonestar49/emp-left-flat.jpg

A light mention, literally IMO, of great, comfy, all day, ccw

Hope this helps


Ls

9mmepiphany
February 22, 2011, 07:01 PM
I've had a 9mm EMP for a bit over a year and it seems to be functioning pretty well. I have had any feeding problems with it yet, but it has only had a bit over 1000 round through it so far. The extractor of mine was fitted properly and it did not come with a tight chamber.

I keep mine loaded with Ranger 127gr +P+ JHPs and it has been very accurate...it also has fed 124gr +P Gold Dots very well. I chose the 9mm over the .40 because the .40 that I shot was a bit snappier than I like and the steel frame adds quite a bit of weight over the 9mms aluminum alloy one. The advantage of the .40's steel frame is it would make fitting the grip safety easier as it would not require welding.

I have a review of my EMP on this forum somewhere, but I'm on a laptop and don't have the link handy. The only objection was that the thumb safeties were a bit sharp and the mag well wasn't beveled.

The things I'd look at changing on mine would be to add texture to the front strap, tighten the fit of the grip safety, bevel the edges of the thumb safety, flush cut the slide stop pin, replace the trigger with a solid one and replace the rear sight with on without the dots.

I'm no a fan of .45ACP based 1911s with barrels/slides shorter than 4.25", but the shortened action of the EMP seems to have addressed the timing problems I would be concerned about.

I think the EMP is a good value at ~$1k. I put it's quality of build between that of the TRP and the Professional

jrod102
February 22, 2011, 11:33 PM
I've had my 9mm EMP going on two years now and its never given me the first stitch of trouble. Ever. Not one failure period; out of several hundred rounds. The most accurate out of box gun I've ever owned. The only thing I've done to mine is different grips. The only reason I did that is I didn't want to take the chance of ruining my originals. I have quite a few handguns, 9mm's, 40's, 45's in my collection. It would be safe to say that my EMP would be the last one I'd let go of.
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Low Budget Shooter
February 23, 2011, 06:40 AM
Dear Sider,

I don't know about the .40, but my 9mm EMP is fantastic. It has eaten 115gr and 147gr factory FMJ and JHP without issue, and even eats my ultra-cheap home-cast bullet loads. All rounds shot to point of aim. Shooting accurately is very easy for such a small, light pistol.

LBS

rman43
August 18, 2011, 11:42 AM
I've had an EMP .40 for a couple of years now. It seems there were some FTF problems with some of them early on, but mine has been flawless. The fit and finish looks like it came out of the Custom Shop and this little thing is a real shooter. Because it has a steel frame in .40, it's a little heavy, but that makes it nicer to shoot.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/rman43/100_0364.jpg

JediJJJ
August 18, 2011, 12:58 PM
Ok, I've been contemplating one of these for about a year now. After reading this I have decided to go ahead. I'm looking at the 9 because I don't have anything in 40 and don't want to stock another caliber.

The only question now is which grip. I really like the look of the cocobolo, which is what the one that belonged to a friend had, but is there an advantage to the G10?

It will be a while before I get to this becaue I have to see a couple of other items to get this one.

Thanx

JJJ

CAWalter
August 18, 2011, 01:04 PM
These have become very popular and are proving themselves. A bit of history in this long thread (http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=257261) also. Getting the mags cut to flush fit seems to be one of the common options.

CAW

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